Post #162,998
7/5/04 10:32:04 PM
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Hasten the old folks to the grave
How many young'uns you see playing bingo? Oh let 'em die *HACK* *HACK* in peace.
I have to find out if or when the patio ban kicks in. Hopefully next summer...
What really floors me is parents who smoke in front of their kids especially in their cars where the kids are a captive audience. That's just plain thoughtless lazy stupidity.
lister
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Post #163,066
7/6/04 12:42:12 PM
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Re: parents who smoke in front of their kids
The worst flight in my life was in a smoking section of an Olympic Airlines flight from Athens, Greece to NYC. My wife and I were in the smoking section because that was the only thing available. Parents traveling with kids who had seats in the non-smoking section came to stand and smoke by our seats. And that's not just a couple of people. Talk about adding insult to injury!
Alex
"If I seem unduly clear to you, you must have misunderstood what I said." -- Alan Greenspan, Federal Reserve chairman
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Post #163,071
7/6/04 12:52:13 PM
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My wife and SIL had non smoking seats on Aeroflot.
They flew to Ireland and Aeroflot was cheapest.
Their seats were in the No Smoking section. Make that, their seats were the No Smoking section. =(
To hear them tell it, it was quite an unpleasant - there was something under the floor that was very hot (something's wrong with the plane!), the Russian businessmen passengers were drinking and smoking and singing or talking very loud the entire flight, and the only thing passed out by the crew to drink was liquor (they didn't have soft drinks!).
The flight back was worse as the flight was delayed by the crew trying to round up the drunken passengers from the airport bar...
So remember, it can always be worse. ;-)
Cheers, Scott.
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Post #163,072
7/6/04 12:58:56 PM
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Re: My wife and SIL had non smoking seats on Aeroflot.
No smoker minds not having smoking on the airplane. Again, this is a matter of blankets bans in privately owned property.
Of course anyone who wants to open a smoking-permitted airline, should be allowed to.
-drl
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Post #165,145
7/20/04 10:29:53 AM
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Another recent Aeroflot story.
[link|http://www.newsday.com/news/nationworld/wire/sns-ap-passenger-assaulted,0,7277369.story?coll=sns-ap-nationworld-headlines|Newsday] - the URL will change: July 20, 2004, 9:41 AM EDT
MOSCOW -- Drunken passengers often give air crews trouble, but Russia's leading airline on Tuesday reported an "unprecedented" reversal: A passenger was assaulted by intoxicated flight attendants.
Two crew members on a domestic Aeroflot flight beat up a passenger who had complained that the flight attendants were drunk, airline spokeswoman Irina Dannenberg said.
The passenger, identified only as A. Chernopup, was aboard a recent flight from Moscow to the Siberian city of Nizhnevartovsk, Dannenberg said. She said the crew belonged to another airline, Aviaenergo.
Seeing that the crew were intoxicated and were not fulfilling their duties, Chernopup asked to be served by a sober and competent flight attendant, Dannenberg said. He was then beaten up by crew members.
On Russian flights, attendants often have to struggle to keep intoxicated passengers under control. But on this flight, Dannenberg said, flight attendants were so intoxicated that they "behaved improperly" and only began catering to passengers 1 1/2 hours into the four-hour trip.
The daily Izvestia quoted another passenger as saying that half of the food the crew served ended up on the floor, leaving the aisle strewn with debris that passengers had to walk over as they disembarked.
According to the passenger, Chernopup left the plane with a black eye and was promptly sent to a doctor. Izvestia also reported that a criminal case was opened after Chernopup reported the incident to the police.
Dannenberg said that the plane was carrying out an Aeroflot flight, but both the aircraft and the crew belonged to Aviaenergo. Aeroflot has been contracting out from Aviaenergo since August 2003, but the incident prompted it to tighten control over Aviaenergo's staff, she said.
The entire crew of the flight has been temporarily dismissed and a joint commission is investigating the incident, Dannenberg said. Cheers, Scott.
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Post #163,365
7/8/04 3:27:18 AM
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Smoking & non-smoking sections on airplanes
The worst flight in my life was in a smoking section of an Olympic Airlines flight from Athens, Greece to NYC. \r\n\r\nHow the heck do you have smoking and non-smoking sections on a plane without using separate ventilation systems, and air locks between the sections?\r\n
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Post #163,371
7/8/04 7:11:57 AM
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Now don't start getting all logical on us...
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