Interesting observation

Post #145,484 by Nightowl 3/10/04 9:43:32 PM Reply	Interesting observation I don't know anything about "said flamewar" or how "hellish" (ob flame word) it might have been, but something I've realized over the years, and that is that history happens, and you can't change it. You can't sweep it under the rug, you can't pretend it's gone, you can't pretend it never did... and yes, sometimes when you dig out things and look them over, be they real or online, they HURT. But the cleansing you get when you finally put it all to rest is the best feeling. I left my grievance mess with UMSL in a box, unorganized, a distraught disaster for YEARS... when I finally pulled it out and put it in order, filed it neatly and put it away, I was FINALLY able to face what really happened and move on. Not saying anyone hasn't faced anything here, just explaining that IWT is the sum of it's postings, good, bad, ugly, hellish, etc. Editing it doesn't help, and trying to pretend things didn't happen doesn't either. Accept what was and move beyond it, that's what I had to do. Maybe someday you can archive all those posts, Ben, because that would be neat to have, I'm sure. Someday I intend to reorganize all my photos also, but the problem holding me back is I have to deal with 7 years of photos of me and my-exfiance, which is a prospect I don't relish. But someday, when I have more time, I will. Just a few thoughts. Nightowl >8# "Don't be a cynic and disconsolate preacher. Don't bewail and moan. Omit the negative propositions. Challenge us with incessant affirmatives. Don't waste yourself in rejection, or bark against the bad, but chant the beauty of the good." Ralph Waldo Emerson
Post #145,656 by ben_tilly 3/11/04 2:48:02 PM Reply	That's all well and good but... when all is said and done, it is still not fun to look at the moment where something that you cared about first cracked. The flamewar that I was referring to (which I think that Greg likewise meant) was the first time that we argued Creationism vs Evolution. The main thread that started it was between Nick Petreley and myself. When Nick left the community several years later it was after a series of seriously fucked up arguments, mostly about Creationism vs Evolution. (It seems likely to me that Nick was partly using this to vent his frustration over his disaster of a divorce which was going on at the time.) In case you don't know, the thread that bound most of us to IWE in the first place was..Nick Petreley. His loss is therefore particularly keenly felt. Furthermore most of the people that we care about here (both past and present) were part of that flamewar in some way, shape or form. We know our differences, I have no real desire to obsess on them. Regards, Ben "good ideas and bad code build communities, the other three combinations do not" - [link\|http://archives.real-time.com/pipermail/cocoon-devel/2000-October/003023.html\|Stefano Mazzocchi]
Post #145,683 by Nightowl 3/11/04 4:06:08 PM Reply	Thanks for explaining that And yes, I understand it isn't fun. It won't be fun to look at photos of my ex either, but if I want to accomplish the task of putting the pictures in proper order, I'll have to. But I do understand, and that's probably why I keep putting off the project. :) I'm sorry people get upset and leave, anywhere, internet, real life, etc, but unfortunately, it seems to be part of life, and something you come to expect at times. Nightowl >8# "Don't be a cynic and disconsolate preacher. Don't bewail and moan. Omit the negative propositions. Challenge us with incessant affirmatives. Don't waste yourself in rejection, or bark against the bad, but chant the beauty of the good." Ralph Waldo Emerson
Post #145,718 by folkert 3/11/04 5:57:25 PM Reply	That was the One. About Three Miles long and right up the wazoo. Branched into other thread there too. -- [link\|mailto:greg@gregfolkert.net\|greg], [link\|http://www.iwethey.org/ed_curry\|REMEMBER ED CURRY!] @ *i_wethey* I did a 10K wheelchair race once. The guy who pushed me still has the whip-marks.

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