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     picking nits on ssh and vpn - (boxley) - (1)
         Convenience - (ben_tilly)
     Security through obscurity - on purpose - (Ashton) - (9)
         another good reason to get off the upgrade treadmill - (tjsinclair) - (4)
             Disagreed, mostly - (kmself) - (3)
                 What you describe is the sane approach - (Ashton) - (2)
                     Remember that little disk I gave you? - (kmself) - (1)
                         Booted a few days ago for a visitor.. :-) - (Ashton)
         Counterpoint: old code being retired - (kmself) - (3)
             So Microsoft is finally acknowledging... - (ben_tilly) - (2)
                 'Acknowledge' is not in their vocabulary, - (Ashton) - (1)
                     Ack! Ack! A hairball! Isn't that what Scott McNeally... - (a6l6e6x)
     Single-sign on ideas? - (tseliot) - (1)
         Forgot to mention: - (tseliot)
     Locking down a Windows 2000 Server - (orion) - (9)
         Put it behind a firewall. - (static)
         Turn off - (folkert) - (6)
             Oh man.... - (bepatient) - (1)
                 Hehehe... thought crossed my mind... thought better of it!! -NT - (folkert)
             Packet Responder - (orion) - (3)
                 If ya don't know... - (folkert) - (2)
                     Well I want Web Services - (orion) - (1)
                         And now for something special... - (folkert)
         I'd start here - (Steven A S)
     Poor quality of Crackers these days - (Steven A S) - (5)
         The GETs are most likely a worm, not a human cracker. - (tseliot)
         Some responses - (drewk) - (1)
             OT: l33t sp33k update. - (inthane-chan)
         Worms, not crackers. - (static) - (1)
             So the problem I'm seeing - (Steven A S)
     Anyone know the logic used by credit card makers? - (drewk) - (18)
         Mmmm..... __Pretzel__? - (Silverlock) - (1)
             Good ob SD reference...think I'll give it a listen now. -NT - (bepatient)
         They think it helps cut down fraud. Better idea: - (tseliot) - (1)
             That's what I have - (drewk)
         Have you talked to the credit card issuer? - (static) - (13)
             Checked their website - (drewk)
             Nope. Merchant is the fall guy. - (kmself) - (11)
                 Is that any kind of excuse ... - (drewk) - (10)
                     You've missed the point... - (kmself) - (9)
                         I got it, but it doesn't make sense - (drewk) - (6)
                             It makes perfect sense to me - (ben_tilly) - (2)
                                 You've made me realize my mission - (drewk) - (1)
                                     A profitable mission... - (ben_tilly)
                             Two problems. - (static)
                             I'm not sure I understand the problem(s). - (Another Scott) - (1)
                                 There's something I hadn't thought of - (drewk)
                         Speaking of biometrics. c't comparison article. - (Another Scott) - (1)
                             Good read - (ben_tilly)
     Small victory - (Silverlock) - (10)
         One question - (tjsinclair) - (2)
             That may be tough. - (Silverlock)
             What port does ICQ use? - (Steven A S)
         Why? - (drewk) - (6)
             It's not used for internal communication. - (Silverlock) - (3)
                 Re: It's not used for internal communication. - (Meerkat) - (2)
                     Heh heh heh -NT - (Silverlock)
                     Heh heh heh -NT - (Silverlock)
             If you want internal IM... - (pwhysall) - (1)
                 One thing at a time - (drewk)
     Best advice for a new security position? - (Silverlock) - (7)
         So if you have no authority for changes - (Meerkat) - (1)
             On the contrary - (Steven A S)
         Document the needs - (boxley)
         Work nights, weekends until a security policy is in place - (tseliot)
         Find out exactly what you are responsible for. - (static)
         No authority. Is that unusual? - (Another Scott)
         Thanks all - (Silverlock)
     ICQ/Yahoo Spoofer - (cable4096) - (3)
         try the whois databases to find the owner of the segment -NT - (boxley) - (2)
             The owner of the IP is - (orion) - (1)
                 Not that person - (boxley)
     Klez highlights poor list hygiene - (kmself) - (8)
         - and school isn't even out yet.._______:-\ufffd -NT - (Ashton) - (1)
             Maybe it originated in .au - school just went back this week -NT - (Meerkat)
         You know what it's turning into? - (static) - (3)
             Is this from Klez? - (drewk) - (2)
                 I have no idea. - (static)
                 Very, very unlikely - (scoenye)
         Correction -- this wasn't Klez - (kmself)
         Re: Klez highlights poor list hygiene - (rickmoen)
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