Unfortunately, I don't recall your religious persuasion...

Post #5,729 by static 8/18/01 7:28:44 AM Reply	Unfortunately, I don't recall your religious persuasion... ... but that has only delayed me suggesting you speak to your local pastor. They should be a trained councillor (or know someone else who is) whom you can see for no charge. And can I recommend some anime for you... go find The Wings of Honneamise - buy it if necessary! - and watch it in one sitting. Wade. "All around me are nothing but fakes Come with me on the biggest fake of all!"
Post #5,811 by Meerkat 8/19/01 3:56:09 AM 8/19/01 4:11:58 AM Reply	(All Honneamise did was make me angry) Better qualify that - it's irrespective of the religious content of it. In a world full of injustices, the last thing I would want to see is a rape scene where the woman apologises afterward, claiming it was all her fault. Sorry but those scenes still make me cross just thinking about it. And besides, the movie was extremely slow an very eff dash dash dashing tedious. In my (and those I watched it with's) opinion. Guess this isn't the place to be discussing it though. Think happy thoughts. Like the way your life is getting ever better whilst you haven't been subjected to Honneamise :P On and on and on and on, and on and on and on goes John. Edited by Meerkat Aug. 19, 2001, 04:11:58 AM EDT Expand All History
Post #5,838 by Ashton 8/19/01 2:35:03 PM Reply	Look at the bright side indeed.. Heh.. A friend raved on and on and.. re Chick Corea (sp?). Let her take me to a concert. Believe string players call it noodling when yer kinda just tryin out sounds and.. lookin' fer loopholes; just lookin fer loopholes (?) Anyway.. what I guess he calls innovation ;-) er improvisation - soon came to be, for me: the aural version of Aleph-null, endless extravagant sounds signifying nothing (well, to me anyway) but worse: a hostile nothing :( Enough to want a martini with a cockroach for protein, like Guy Noir's fav. For ~first time re 'arts' - it evoked in me: anger! That of the student trapped by an autodidact! or by a stranger at the door who might launch into explaining the Universe as it's Spozed to Be.. Smugly, beatifically sing-song. Before asking if I wanted to know that trivial piece of misinformation. But such events Do have their silver lining! The sky never looked so bright and inviting! when finally I got out of that auditorium and felt.. Freee.. Freee At Last* !!* And realized too.. never would I have to go through That again, at least while able to move one eyelid and blink twice.. for NO. {sigh} (But at least.. he didn't have an overblown alto-sax for accompaniment.. too.) ('Course too - says nothing re Mr. C. and his art and those who like it. Just bad chemistry twixt Us-two I guess. Still and all - the feeling of "relief" is its own reward :-) Ashton Critic ie it's tough recommendin stuff to Us Cranks\ufffd, y'know? (Dunno about the one above, but if that rape scenario is as you say (?) it might glaringly bring out a subtle 'conservative' er reactionary idiocy of the culture -- which would be much like that live cockroach in yer martini. No?) :-\ufffd
Post #5,884 by boxley 8/19/01 8:17:20 PM Reply	waal his older stuff was good many things that sound good on tape suck live while others shine live and suck in the studio. I think I would rather listen to birds warbling than new age jazz. The fresh air is good and ya can turn on the mower if ya dont like the tunes.:) thanx, bill Our bureaucracy and our laws have turned the world into a clean, safe work camp. We are raising a nation of slaves. Chuck Palahniuk
Post #5,890 by static 8/19/01 8:42:14 PM Reply	Notice I've never suggested you endure it again. At least you had the grace to see it once, for which I thank you, but I can accept you didn't like it. Inthane, on the other hand, I think would enjoy it. Wade. "All around me are nothing but fakes Come with me on the biggest fake of all!"
Post #5,986 by inthane-chan 8/20/01 11:56:35 AM Reply	Saw it, liked it. I actually watched wings a long time ago - it was a good film IMO. Kinda "the Right Stuff" set in an alternate universe. As far as the whole rape thing goes - I got the feeling from it that the author was trying to show the flaws implicit in all people - that even the hero of the story, after going through this huge transformation from a lazy slacker to somebody who actually gives a damn about something, still has the monster inside of him that we all do - that he can still fall from grace. The woman's apology might be a more cultural thing - but I took it to show that she was weak as well - trapped within the ideology of her faith, and unable to look to the new horizons that were being opened by the events unfolding around her, just as nobody else did. "He who fights with monsters might take care lest he thereby become a monster. And if you gaze for long into an abyss, the abyss gazes also into you." - Friedrich Nietzsche
Post #6,019 by static 8/21/01 2:34:16 AM Reply	Ah. Thought you might have. But the attempted rape scene wasn't why I pointed you to it (Meerkat happens to have identified this scene as pivotal as to why he doesn't like the movie...). I was thinking of a different scene when Shiro goes out to visit Riquinni and she's not there. But Marna is. And what Shiro confesses to a fairly oblivious Marna is that she gave him hope. Hope that we can transcend all the pettiness that so involves life on this little mudball. :-) Wade. "All around me are nothing but fakes Come with me on the biggest fake of all!"

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