You missed the point of my post.

Post #56,029 by Another Scott 10/10/02 2:52:07 PM Reply	You missed the point of my post. It's not necessary, nor appropriate IMHO, to use terms like "clueless moron" when debating with people here. It doesn't help your argument. How you can say that that's not [link\|http://www.dictionary.com/search?q=ad%20hominem\|ad hominem] is beyond me. Lighten up, please. Cheers, Scott.
Post #56,043 by Brandioch 10/10/02 3:44:09 PM Reply	Simple, it was after I had provided the rebuttal. It's not necessary, nor appropriate IMHO, to use terms like "clueless moron" when debating with people here. It doesn't help your argument. How you can say that that's not ad hominem [] is beyond me. Ad hominem (from your link): "Appealing to personal considerations rather than to logic or reason: Debaters should avoid ad hominem arguments that question their opponents' motives.*" Again, my conclusion about his character occured AFTER the debate. I did NOT base my rebuttal of his claim upon his character. I based it upon the photographic evidence that I provided. He then retreated into semantic games about what he ACTUALLY meant when he said "wall". From that exchange, I concluded that he was a liar. Note, that is my conclusion from the exchange. That is not a rebuttal of his position. I rebutted his position with the photographs. My conclusion as to his character occured AFTER the debate. Therefore, not an "ad hominem" attack. If I had based my rebuttal upon his being a liar, then it would be.
Post #56,052 by admin 10/10/02 4:18:35 PM Reply	Still missing the point: It isn't necessary to call people clueless morons. Please. Keep it civil. Regards, -scott anderson "Welcome to Rivendell, Mr. Anderson..."
Post #56,144 by Brandioch 10/11/02 7:25:49 AM Reply	So many things we do are not "necessary". It isn't necessary to call people clueless morons. Please. Keep it civil. Of course, my question would be whether it is "necessary" to identify someone who tells lies as a "liar". And so forth. It may not be necessary, but it is correct.
Post #56,157 by bepatient 10/11/02 8:35:32 AM Reply	And so it goes from the self-appointed knower of all things. You were born...and so you're free...so Happy Birthday! _{Laurie Anderson} [link\|mailto:bepatient@aol.com\|BePatient]
Post #56,327 by Ashton 10/12/02 4:27:49 AM Reply	What about the Hughes Loan? ..and - how about that WVa Senator - all by hisself! Byrd + Constitution VS Bush Dynasty + Corporate (OK - so it was no-conte$t.)
Post #56,343 by bepatient 10/12/02 8:20:30 AM Reply	? Yeah, that made sense here. You were born...and so you're free...so Happy Birthday! _{Laurie Anderson} [link\|mailto:bepatient@aol.com\|BePatient]
Post #56,453 by Ashton 10/13/02 7:03:05 AM Reply	Ashleigh Brilliant In the end everything is related to everything else.
Post #56,472 by bepatient 10/13/02 10:21:41 AM Reply	I thought that... ...was called the Kevin Bacon game;) You were born...and so you're free...so Happy Birthday! _{Laurie Anderson} [link\|mailto:bepatient@aol.com\|BePatient]

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