Are you REALLY that naive?

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Post #55,528

by jb4

10/8/02 4:45:37 PM

Are you REALLY that naive?

We have no intention of "annexing" Iraq as Iraq did with Kuwait. The President has repeatedly stated, "regieme change" as our ultimate goal.

And what kind of regime do you expect it to be changed to? A regime "of the People, by the People, for the People" of Iraq? Who you crappin'! NO, it's to be a US puppet, a la the Shah, fully beholden to the US for its very existence, and..oh, yes, a very friendly "trading partner" for the vast Iraqi oil reserve.

Believe anything else, and you're simply a damn fool! (And exactly the kind of damn fool Karl Rove is looking for, too...)

jb4
"About the use of language: it is impossible to sharpen a pencil with a blunt axe. It is equally vain to try to do it with ten blunt axes instead. "
-- Edsger W.Dijkstra (1930 - 2002)
(I wish more managers knew that...)

Post #55,533

by Simon_Jester

10/8/02 5:17:51 PM

jb...be polite.

Certainly we won't annex Iraq.

But on the flip side of the coin - the idea that we're going to liberate the Iraq people is a scary notion. The Sunnei and the Shiites (or so I've been told) don't exactly get along. Why do I suspect a major bloodletting (read civil war) the minute we remove the stablizing factor?

(These people don't exactly believe in democracy.)

So, we won't annex Iraq, but we will provide a "stablizing factor" -- you know, a peace keeping mission.

Exactly the same thing Bush blasted Clinton for in the debates, if you will recall. (And what he promised he wouldn't do.)

Bush speech - Oh lawd - was hoping he could do better ... - (dmarker2) - (70) - Oct. 7, 2002, 08:30:56 PM EDT

Actually I thought he did very well... - (Simon_Jester) - Oct. 7, 2002, 08:44:35 PM EDT

No One Gives A Watty's Cheek - (deSitter) - (1) - Oct. 7, 2002, 08:45:26 PM EDT

shouldnt that be watie?(rifles for) if bill was gonna lift - (boxley) - Oct. 8, 2002, 12:10:00 AM EDT

What do you expect? He doesn't have any material. - (Brandioch) - (1) - Oct. 7, 2002, 08:56:26 PM EDT

They made him an offer he couldn't refuse... - (jb4) - Oct. 8, 2002, 04:35:30 PM EDT

Mr. President, you nailed it! - (Arkadiy) - (58) - Oct. 8, 2002, 09:35:40 AM EDT

If Cuba had oil, these stupid analogies might - (screamer) - (57) - Oct. 8, 2002, 11:22:41 AM EDT

I've said it already - (Arkadiy) - (5) - Oct. 8, 2002, 11:52:38 AM EDT

Again, slight difference of opinion... - (screamer) - (4) - Oct. 8, 2002, 12:44:00 PM EDT

No tyranny? - (Arkadiy) - Oct. 8, 2002, 01:26:11 PM EDT

Are you REALLY that naive? - (jb4) - (1) - Oct. 8, 2002, 04:45:37 PM EDT

jb...be polite. - (Simon_Jester) - Oct. 8, 2002, 05:17:51 PM EDT

Um, you might want to look up "slant drilling". Kuwait did. -NT - (mmoffitt) - Oct. 8, 2002, 07:53:55 PM EDT

Incorrect. - (Brandioch) - (46) - Oct. 8, 2002, 12:33:40 PM EDT

Points on your points... - (screamer) - (45) - Oct. 8, 2002, 02:12:00 PM EDT

Re: Points on your points... - (deSitter) - (16) - Oct. 8, 2002, 02:17:44 PM EDT

Like I said. - (Brandioch) - Oct. 8, 2002, 03:37:16 PM EDT

The best answer I can give... - (screamer) - (14) - Oct. 8, 2002, 04:02:45 PM EDT

Yeah I do know - (Silverlock) - (11) - Oct. 8, 2002, 04:53:58 PM EDT

Anybody else here scared of their own government? - (inthane-chan) - (9) - Oct. 8, 2002, 05:07:41 PM EDT

ditto - (Brandioch) - (1) - Oct. 8, 2002, 07:40:15 PM EDT

Just by being labeled a "terrorist". - WRONG! - (mhuber) - Oct. 9, 2002, 08:38:28 PM EDT

Re: Anybody else here scared of their own government? - (deSitter) - Oct. 8, 2002, 07:53:20 PM EDT

Hopefully everybody - (JayMehaffey) - Oct. 8, 2002, 09:21:45 PM EDT

Scared as in... - (Arkadiy) - (1) - Oct. 8, 2002, 10:29:57 PM EDT

I'll take "A", please. -NT - (inthane-chan) - Oct. 9, 2002, 11:55:54 AM EDT

Not scared - livid__ (but only once in a while) - (Ashton) - (1) - Oct. 9, 2002, 02:45:14 AM EDT

Fear is a warning. - (inthane-chan) - Oct. 9, 2002, 11:58:52 AM EDT

Re: Not of mine thank God, but alarmed at yours <grin> - (dmarker2) - Oct. 9, 2002, 05:50:17 AM EDT

Yeah, my hands are raised too... - (screamer) - Oct. 10, 2002, 03:56:00 PM EDT

Re: The best answer I can give... - (deSitter) - (1) - Oct. 8, 2002, 09:50:32 PM EDT

Agreed - the decline is within - (Ashton) - Oct. 9, 2002, 03:09:57 AM EDT

Counters to your counters. - (Brandioch) - (27) - Oct. 8, 2002, 03:35:01 PM EDT

And so it goes... - (screamer) - (26) - Oct. 8, 2002, 04:30:14 PM EDT

Huh? - (Brandioch) - (25) - Oct. 8, 2002, 07:35:14 PM EDT

nits and LMAO - (screamer) - (22) - Oct. 9, 2002, 11:21:58 AM EDT

WTF? Here are the PHOTOGRAPHS! - (Brandioch) - (21) - Oct. 9, 2002, 03:09:36 PM EDT

I give up... - (screamer) - (20) - Oct. 9, 2002, 07:46:47 PM EDT

And now you go for the semantic play. - (Brandioch) - (19) - Oct. 10, 2002, 01:25:39 AM EDT

OT: Easy on the ad hominem, please. 'Tis not necessary. -NT - (Another Scott) - (18) - Oct. 10, 2002, 07:01:28 AM EDT

Ad hominem attack against minor off topic point=par - (bepatient) - (6) - Oct. 10, 2002, 08:08:14 AM EDT

Re: TIME FOR ALL OF US TO COOL IT - We all ... - (dmarker2) - Oct. 10, 2002, 10:27:42 AM EDT

Deal with it. - (Brandioch) - (4) - Oct. 10, 2002, 10:38:24 AM EDT

Lighten up - (Silverlock) - (1) - Oct. 10, 2002, 11:07:34 AM EDT

That would be valid, except I provided a physical example. - (Brandioch) - Oct. 10, 2002, 01:56:18 PM EDT

Note - (deSitter) - Oct. 10, 2002, 11:22:35 AM EDT

Rules for the home game... - (bepatient) - Oct. 10, 2002, 12:58:04 PM EDT

That wasn't "ad hominem". - (Brandioch) - (10) - Oct. 10, 2002, 12:28:12 PM EDT

The semantic difference may not be the crux of that exchange - (Ashton) - Oct. 10, 2002, 02:24:12 PM EDT

You missed the point of my post. - (Another Scott) - (8) - Oct. 10, 2002, 02:52:07 PM EDT

Simple, it was after I had provided the rebuttal. - (Brandioch) - (7) - Oct. 10, 2002, 03:44:09 PM EDT

Still missing the point: - (admin) - (6) - Oct. 10, 2002, 04:18:35 PM EDT

So many things we do are not "necessary". - (Brandioch) - (5) - Oct. 11, 2002, 07:25:49 AM EDT

And so it goes from the self-appointed knower of all things. -NT - (bepatient) - (4) - Oct. 11, 2002, 08:35:32 AM EDT

What about the Hughes Loan? - (Ashton) - (3) - Oct. 12, 2002, 04:27:49 AM EDT

? - (bepatient) - (2) - Oct. 12, 2002, 08:20:30 AM EDT

Ashleigh Brilliant - (Ashton) - (1) - Oct. 13, 2002, 07:03:05 AM EDT

I thought that... - (bepatient) - Oct. 13, 2002, 10:21:41 AM EDT

bzzt wrong conclusion - (boxley) - (1) - Oct. 10, 2002, 12:45:13 AM EDT

I don't see where you disagree. - (Brandioch) - Oct. 10, 2002, 01:30:26 AM EDT

Re: If Cuba had oil, these stupid analogies might - (deSitter) - (2) - Oct. 8, 2002, 01:31:33 PM EDT

Great site... Thanks for the link... - (screamer) - (1) - Oct. 8, 2002, 03:07:19 PM EDT

Re: Great site... Thanks for the link... - (deSitter) - Oct. 8, 2002, 04:41:09 PM EDT

BZZZT - "For The Children" - (mhuber) - Oct. 9, 2002, 08:55:27 PM EDT

I for one am gratified... - (marlowe) - (5) - Oct. 8, 2002, 01:03:24 PM EDT

Nucular(TM) - (Arkadiy) - (4) - Oct. 8, 2002, 01:32:04 PM EDT

Re: Nucular(TM) - (deSitter) - (3) - Oct. 8, 2002, 01:51:55 PM EDT

[cackle] - Our pResident's alter-ego: Slim Pickens w/hat -NT - (Ashton) - Oct. 8, 2002, 02:48:30 PM EDT

ROFL! I need to see that movie again. -NT - (a6l6e6x) - (1) - Oct. 8, 2002, 02:54:08 PM EDT

Oh Yeah - (deSitter) - Oct. 8, 2002, 10:40:08 PM EDT

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