Post #55,532
10/8/02 5:07:41 PM
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Anybody else here scared of their own government?
*Raises hand*
End of world rescheduled for day after tomorrow. Something should probably be done. Please advise.
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Post #55,583
10/8/02 7:40:15 PM
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ditto
*hand raised*
BTW: I can be "arrested" and indefinately "detained" without access to a lawyer by my "democratic" "free" government.
Just by being labeled a "terrorist".
Waiting.....
To put on a black shirt.
Waiting.....
To weed out the weaklings.
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Post #55,847
10/9/02 8:38:28 PM
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Just by being labeled a "terrorist". - WRONG!
You just have to be labeled someone who may know something about a potential terrorist.
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Whatever
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Post #55,589
10/8/02 7:53:20 PM
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Re: Anybody else here scared of their own government?
Funny, I was going to screed about the pure evil of deliberate false imprisonment (as I write I'm watching a show on A&E about falsely convicted death row survivors). And then I saw you beat me to it.
*raises both hands*
In fact these international adventures are nothing but a diversion of attention from the sickness and evil in our own backyard.
-drl
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Post #55,625
10/8/02 9:21:45 PM
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Hopefully everybody
Anybody that isn't at least somewhat worried about their government doesn't really understand what governments do.
The fundamental function of government is to impose order at the expense of freedom. History shows that there is an inherent drift towards more order and less freedom unless action is taken to prevent the slide. People should be constantly concerned with what their government is doing.
Honestly though, right now I'm more fearfull then I have been in the past. The current leaders of this country show many dangerous traits.
Jay
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Post #55,640
10/8/02 10:29:57 PM
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Scared as in...
"Those fuckers scare me! Nobody that dumb should ever hold a gun."
or as in
"I'd better sit tight. If I make waves, they will find a way to screw up my life for sure."
We have only 2 things to worry about: That things will never get back to normal, and that they already have.
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Post #55,755
10/9/02 11:55:54 AM
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I'll take "A", please.
End of world rescheduled for day after tomorrow. Something should probably be done. Please advise.
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Post #55,674
10/9/02 2:45:14 AM
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Not scared - livid__ (but only once in a while)
One must ration extreme emotions, when living in a nascent Gulag State. Save the energy for an actual local event. And there Will be one... in this atmosphere.
Fear is an inappropriate response to the Fascism passed without debate or even READING the POS document! someone managed to make into a sophomoric acronym like PATRIOT Act. It is a parody of itself! so evidently unConstitutional on its face.. so evidently the kind of weasel thing which only people in a Screaming Panic could ever regurgitate, let alone make US Law.
Anger is the appropriate state to nurture! It helps you Not to forget just how strong is the undercurrent in Murican mythos - for LawN'Order at the expense of personal freedom. Just as in Germany after the torpedoing of the quite democratic Weimar Republic, by the same sort of thugs as today bomb clinics and attend Jerry Foulwell rallies: Fascism for Jesus, if you believe the likes of him.
Stay mad about *what you have already lost*. 25,000 marched in one of the larger local Vietnam protests, the sum of which ended Johnson's career .. eventually. Bush/Cheney must be ended - sooner methinks. If enough still have the guts,
Ashton
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Post #55,756
10/9/02 11:58:52 AM
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Fear is a warning.
Don't let it rule you, and you're fine.
I can handle fear just fine. Hell, death doesn't paralyze me - I act first, THEN panic when the emergency is over.
When I talk about fear, I talk about seeing the path we're on the way down, and noticing how similar it is to the Nazi party's ursurpation of democratic Germany and the decline into WW2. No, we haven't dissolved congress, and Shrub ain't Dictator in Chief - but Congress is now his lap-dog, and he's using every trick in the book to manipulate people's feelings and hide the blame for what's really going on here - doing $$$ of damage to preserve his power...
End of world rescheduled for day after tomorrow. Something should probably be done. Please advise.
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Post #55,685
10/9/02 5:50:17 AM
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Re: Not of mine thank God, but alarmed at yours <grin>
I have tried to like Bush, but I just can't get past the shallowness and outright deception in his speeches.
Reagan was actually likeable even though he was advised by almost the same team Bush Jnr has.
It still alarms me that the Anthrax evidence (suddenly & abruptly gone quiet) was leading up to being shown as a deliberate campaign by a CIA operative to terrorise the US population into supporting funding for biological weapon research & to support the cause of the current admin.
That is bloody terrible. And these milksops who want to believe Bush's every word deserve everything that comes their way. People deserve the Govt they elect (ooops Bush didn't really win did he ???).
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