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New Ashton, you said it.
"I want a little of what *You* have too-much of, in exchange for *My* not making your life hell in the ways which (even.. I) *Can*."

Next time we try to figure out whose fault 9/11 is and what to do about it - I will remember that phrase of yours. There is an entire policy, waiting to be implemented, in this phrase alone.
New If there were a simpler explanation
for all the posturing and Jingoism rampant everywhere - I'd look for that simpler one. It might just be the variation ~ when you possess enough force to not need to* reign in unrestrained greed for It All, you get Billy n'Bally as your local model of Success and: Machiavelli incarnate.

* because no one Else can force you to.

I do realize that, none of the stuff in these forums is likely to have any effect at all on the 3% who, via Corporate overall organization: determine our fate, next.

But occasionally, words have indeed those famous consequences. If we live in a milieu where daily slogans substitute for anything like earnest solitary thinking.. then Slogans can work as much for sanity as for conserving the status quo, their usual function.

Maybe somewhere out in the soup, are some Slogans coalescing.. as counters to the current US direction of Ashcroftian Fundamentalist doggerel + massive nuclear firepower = the forming of the US Empire Worldwide (via Space, it seems).

I hope that is the case, but the momentum is growing for 'conserving' 20th century rationalization: the century of the most hideous wars yet.




Good luck to us all,

Ashton
I've lived ~ long enough, but most here: haven't. You'll have to work to keep the chance, as always.
     Thinking the unthinkable - (marlowe) - (38)
         If you've got the weapons . . - (Andrew Grygus) - (11)
             Tactical Nukes - (nking) - (5)
                 Not as effective as might be hoped. - (JayMehaffey) - (4)
                     You mean old-old tech - (nking) - (3)
                         Sort of - (JayMehaffey) - (2)
                             Armor? - (Ashton) - (1)
                                 What it says . . . - (Andrew Grygus)
             Yes, ' plan' is not the deed. More is implicit. - (Ashton) - (2)
                 Uh, Ash, think about it a bit more. - (Ric Locke) - (1)
                     "Disinformation, Age of" - see under "Current Events" - (Ashton)
             Re: As usual - balanced well reasoned logic ... - (dmarker2) - (1)
                 Bush 2 imitates Reagan? - (wharris2)
         Not so unthinkable - (JayMehaffey) - (1)
             Iran on the enemy list - (wharris2)
         Ummm, this has been our doctrine..... - (Brandioch) - (23)
             Strategic Doctrine - (Ric Locke) - (22)
                 20 years is the limit of my personal experience. - (Brandioch) - (20)
                     Re: 20 years is the limit of my personal experience. - (Ric Locke) - (19)
                         Not that thinking. - (Brandioch) - (18)
                             What was the Clancy novel? - (wharris2) - (1)
                                 Red Storm - (dlevitt)
                             Re: Not that thinking. - (Ric Locke) - (15)
                                 India and Pakistan. - (Brandioch) - (14)
                                     Agreed - down to the root issues - - (Ashton) - (5)
                                         Ashton, you said it. - (Arkadiy) - (1)
                                             If there were a simpler explanation - (Ashton)
                                         Aston..I must disagree... - (Simon_Jester)
                                         Koki Annann on Charlie Rose, last night - (Ashton) - (1)
                                             (cough, cough) Kofi Annan that is. :) - (a6l6e6x)
                                     India and Pakistan. - (Ric Locke) - (7)
                                         Whatever. - (Brandioch) - (6)
                                             Oh. Drift. - (Ric Locke) - (5)
                                                 Who, what, where? - (Brandioch) - (4)
                                                     Ah, yes. - (Ric Locke) - (3)
                                                         Step #1. Knowledge. - (Brandioch) - (2)
                                                             So simple. - (Ric Locke) - (1)
                                                                 It's very simple to refute me. - (Brandioch)
                 Well-enough put, but only part of the scenario IMhO - (Ashton)

I bet Socrates had a really nice lawn.
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