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New In the real world, it doesn't really work that way
freedom of the press only applies to people that can own one. Getting ads on TV is both difficult and expensive, which drastically narrows the field of people who can afford to do so. See, for example, the efforts of adbusters to get ads on TV, even while being willing to pay for it.
New Re: In the real world, it doesn't really work that way
I see your point but rules are somewhat different for campaign ads
and I oppose censorship even if there are economic inequities

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New The problem as I see it is this:
Freedom of speech should apply to everybody. Everybody being individual humans. Corporations, PACs, unions, and other organizations should not have free speech. They are not people. They are legal constructs. Congress should be regulating them. That's their job. Congress should not be regulating people. In theory, Congress serves the people, not regulates (rules, really, these days) them.

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New Nice theory :-)
Too much of today's music is fashionable crap dressed as artistry.Adrian Belew
New What part?
The part that corporations, PAC, unions, etc are not people, or that Congress serves the people?
jb4
"It's hard for me, you know, living in this beautiful White House, to give you a firsthand assessment."
George W. Bush, when asked if he believed Iraq was in a state of civil war (Newsweek, 26 Feb 07)
Expand Edited by jb4 June 27, 2007, 10:16:34 AM EDT
New Re: What part?
"In theory, Congress serves the people, not regulates (rules, really, these days) them."
Too much of today's music is fashionable crap dressed as artistry.Adrian Belew
New Not sure it was really ever a theory...
More like a goal...
jb4
"It's hard for me, you know, living in this beautiful White House, to give you a firsthand assessment."
George W. Bush, when asked if he believed Iraq was in a state of civil war (Newsweek, 26 Feb 07)
New Lofty ideal perhaps?
Too much of today's music is fashionable crap dressed as artistry.Adrian Belew
New Ok, so it's a joke these days.
Civil servant is semantically equivalent to civil master. That's not likely to change in my lifetime. I just wish they'd knock off the bullshit about "land of the free and home of the brave" before games and such. That's also gone forever.
New land of the safe home of the whiners?
Quantum materiae materietur marmota monax si marmota monax materiam possit materiari?
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New Better, but I'd likely be more caustic.
New Land of the somnolent shopping sheep?
Or if that's too polite -

Land of the assholes who have made Waste their Bizness God's command, and pissed away in 50 years, resources which might have left the species enough time to grow up.

Except - that's too many words for the reduced attention span already accomplished.

Fewer -
Die You Motherfuckers. You tossed all the emergency rations into the Marianas Trench, just to amuse yourselves.

New Money tilt
If corporations can buy the airwaves, then the political messages will be tilted toward pro-business ideas because they have the most access.
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New So the well heeled should be alowed to drown out . . .
. . the voices of the less well financed? That is neither democracy nor freedom of speech.
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New you are either a mass movement that can collectively
anti up the bucks to publish or you are well heeled and anti up the bucks to publish. When has it ever been different? Medium providers need to get paid and our bottom line is expecting great things between now and 2008.
thanx,
bill
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     I hate it when they're right - (andread) - (56)
         "Money talks!" -NT - (a6l6e6x)
         What makes them right? - (Seamus) - (45)
             mass speech is free, commercial is not -NT - (boxley)
             Re: What makes them right? - (andread) - (40)
                 In the real world, it doesn't really work that way - (jake123) - (14)
                     Re: In the real world, it doesn't really work that way - (andread) - (13)
                         The problem as I see it is this: - (hnick) - (10)
                             Nice theory :-) -NT - (bepatient) - (8)
                                 What part? - (jb4) - (7)
                                     Re: What part? - (bepatient) - (6)
                                         Not sure it was really ever a theory... - (jb4) - (5)
                                             Lofty ideal perhaps? -NT - (bepatient)
                                             Ok, so it's a joke these days. - (hnick) - (3)
                                                 land of the safe home of the whiners? -NT - (boxley) - (2)
                                                     Better, but I'd likely be more caustic. -NT - (hnick) - (1)
                                                         Land of the somnolent shopping sheep? - (Ashton)
                             Money tilt - (tablizer)
                         So the well heeled should be alowed to drown out . . . - (Andrew Grygus) - (1)
                             you are either a mass movement that can collectively - (boxley)
                 Anyone can be heard - (Seamus) - (24)
                     wrong conclusion - (boxley) - (23)
                         I disagree - (Seamus) - (22)
                             School property is not the issue - (crazy) - (16)
                                 No it is not the issue - (Seamus) - (13)
                                     its the CENTRAL ISSUE to the ruling sheesh -NT - (boxley) - (12)
                                         It was the intent to promote drug use - (Seamus) - (11)
                                             splutter! - (boxley) - (10)
                                                 Are you really this dense? - (Seamus) - (9)
                                                     Re: Are you really this dense? - (bepatient) - (7)
                                                         What was that about "it's a free country", again? -NT - (CRConrad) - (6)
                                                             Couple of issues with this - (bepatient) - (5)
                                                                 Dude, not only is 18 over the "age of consent" - (jb4) - (4)
                                                                     Ask it another way - (bepatient) - (3)
                                                                         Begs the question of his Majority - (Ashton) - (2)
                                                                             This is a litmus decision? - (bepatient) - (1)
                                                                                 Litmus only in the sense that - - (Ashton)
                                                     Im not the one who cant understand the basis of the case - (boxley)
                                 Re: School property is not the issue - (JayMehaffey) - (1)
                                     Prec\ufffdsamente - that would be a 100% Murican cop-out. -NT - (Ashton)
                             so all for censorship I see, no free speech allowed - (boxley) - (4)
                                 It is all about intent - (Seamus) - (3)
                                     speech from non commercial groups CANNOT be regulated - (boxley) - (2)
                                         Let me be clearer - (Seamus) - (1)
                                             I have not seen the ad, what in detail was the content -NT - (boxley)
             I'm ambivalent. - (Another Scott) - (1)
                 Between Washington and Franklin, - (Ashton)
             Remember, according to a previous ruling, money == speech -NT - (jb4)
         What the week's rulings taught us. - (mmoffitt) - (7)
             Yes, just that Simple. 5-to-4s ... til the 'revolution'. -NT - (Ashton)
             Re: What the week's rulings taught us. - (andread) - (3)
                 Depends on exactly what is meant by "corporate" - (jake123)
                 Heh. - (mmoffitt) - (1)
                     It's a fine line between naive wishfulness and gullibility. - (Ashton)
             There's still a bit of hope... - (scoenye) - (1)
                 :-) .. a few truffles amidst the turds, anyway -NT - (Ashton)
         Re: I hate it when they're right-eously dissembling - (Ashton)

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