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Post #276,223
by Another Scott
12/20/06 3:05:24 PM
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New Dell's schizophrenic regarding Linux.
E.g. Dell Singapore lists [link|http://www1.ap.dell.com/content/topics/topic.aspx/ap/topics/microsite/en/redhat?c=sg&l=en&s=bsd|this] PowerEdge 1950 with RHEL installed. If you search for Linux at Dell.com you'll see a [link|http://www.dell.com/content/products/productdetails.aspx/precn_390?c=us&l=en&s=bsd&cs=04|Precision 390 Workstation] box with RHEL available, but if you go to Customize it, there doesn't seem to be any way to get anything other than Windows.

It looks to me that one must have the patience of Job to get a consumer box with Linux from Dell.

FWIW.

Cheers,
Scott.
Post #276,235
by Andrew Grygus
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12/20/06 5:38:47 PM
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New Last I heard - though that was a while back . . .
. . they were not allowed to offer any other OS on any model that was available with Windows. If they offered Linux it had to be a different SKU (Stocking Unit) and Winodws could not be available for that model designation.

That would make it imposible for them to offer Linux under customization, you'd have to know the model number (often not listed) for the Linux SKU.
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Post #276,283
by andread
12/21/06 9:44:01 AM
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New well, hear this
[link|http://configure.us.dell.com/dellstore/config.aspx?c=us&cs=04&kc=6W300&l=en&oc=sc1435-min&s=bsd|Dell server with choice of no o/s, 2 windows, 2 redhat or 2 suse]

Hmmmm

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Post #276,285
by Andrew Grygus
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12/21/06 9:48:27 AM
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New Please note: S-E-R-V-E-R
What have we been telling you all this time? Servers have DIFFERENT RULES. Just how damned thick is your skull - bone to the center? Do you actually comprehend anything you read?

Show me a desktop SKU offering those choices.
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Post #276,286
by andread
12/21/06 9:54:30 AM
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New your words cited below
. they were not allowed to offer any other OS on any model that was available with Windows
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Post #276,288
by pwhysall
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12/21/06 10:24:25 AM
12/21/06 10:27:16 AM
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New That's not what was said.
Any configuration i.e. any SKU with Windows will not come with Linux and vikki verki.

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Post #276,290
by pwhysall
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12/21/06 10:48:18 AM
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New I can show you a desktop...
...sort of.

It's a workstation. Dell will sell you Linux on a Precision workstation.

Interestingly, I've been dinking around with the UK and US configurators for Precision workstations and they say they support RHEL, but they don't actually have it as a selectable option when building your machine.

Peter
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     French consumer group targets the Microsoft tax. - (a6l6e6x) - (80) - Dec. 14, 2006, 11:46:50 AM EST
         French consumer group targets the "Microsoft tax". - (andread) - (79) - Dec. 14, 2006, 03:58:48 PM EST
             Maybe you can - (tuberculosis) - Dec. 14, 2006, 07:30:30 PM EST
             thats probably the most stupid remark you have ever uttered - (boxley) - (77) - Dec. 14, 2006, 07:51:38 PM EST
                 Unfortunately, no, it isn't. - (CRConrad) - (76) - Dec. 15, 2006, 02:40:10 AM EST
                     So Move to France - (andread) - (75) - Dec. 15, 2006, 10:57:20 AM EST
                         so only white box builders should be allowed to not sell $MS -NT - (boxley) - (74) - Dec. 15, 2006, 11:40:09 AM EST
                             Re: so only white box builders should be allowed to not sell - (andread) - (73) - Dec. 15, 2006, 03:36:12 PM EST
                                 really? - (boxley) - Dec. 15, 2006, 03:48:56 PM EST
                                 It most certainly is a question of allowed. - (Andrew Grygus) - (71) - Dec. 15, 2006, 03:51:06 PM EST
                                     Re: It most certainly is a question of allowed. - (andread) - (70) - Dec. 17, 2006, 11:20:32 AM EST
                                         well dell and gateway anyway, customer service sux -NT - (boxley) - Dec. 17, 2006, 11:32:50 AM EST
                                         Hmm. - (Another Scott) - Dec. 17, 2006, 11:35:45 AM EST
                                         It is to laugh . . . - (Andrew Grygus) - (3) - Dec. 17, 2006, 12:20:10 PM EST
                                             Nit - (pwhysall) - (1) - Dec. 17, 2006, 12:16:24 PM EST
                                                 Yea, PowerEdge - corrected. -NT - (Andrew Grygus) - Dec. 17, 2006, 12:18:43 PM EST
                                             I have a Lenovo laptop - (crazy) - Dec. 17, 2006, 12:16:27 PM EST
                                         You miss the point spectacularly. - (pwhysall) - (63) - Dec. 17, 2006, 12:15:10 PM EST
                                             Most shills do. ;-) -NT - (n3jja) - (61) - Dec. 17, 2006, 06:16:10 PM EST
                                                 Re: Most shills do. ;-) - (andread) - (60) - Dec. 18, 2006, 10:19:59 AM EST
                                                     There are certainly ways to do that WITHOUT - (bepatient) - Dec. 18, 2006, 10:36:40 AM EST
                                                     All PC buyers aren't the same. - (Another Scott) - (8) - Dec. 18, 2006, 10:49:56 AM EST
                                                         Why on Earth would you think such a thing??? - (CRConrad) - (7) - Dec. 18, 2006, 04:14:10 PM EST
                                                             Fanboy, maybe. Shill, no. - (Another Scott) - (6) - Dec. 18, 2006, 04:31:31 PM EST
                                                                 Perhaps even a longterm MSFT stockholder. -NT - (a6l6e6x) - Dec. 18, 2006, 05:35:45 PM EST
                                                                 Whew! For a while there, I thought I had the usage wrong... - (CRConrad) - (4) - Dec. 19, 2006, 11:55:20 AM EST
                                                                     dunno crc shill/fanboy=prostitute/slut one gets paid to - (boxley) - Dec. 19, 2006, 12:15:49 PM EST
                                                                     wrong - (andread) - (2) - Dec. 21, 2006, 09:47:33 AM EST
                                                                         Uuuh... How, exactly, was that *not* logic? - (CRConrad) - (1) - Dec. 21, 2006, 02:34:06 PM EST
                                                                             logic? - (andread) - Dec. 22, 2006, 12:25:44 AM EST
                                                     I addressed your point directly, you ignored it, again - (boxley) - (1) - Dec. 18, 2006, 11:46:10 AM EST
                                                         It's a lot harder, actually. - (pwhysall) - Dec. 18, 2006, 12:30:18 PM EST
                                                     I addressed your point directly, you ignored it, again - (boxley) - Dec. 18, 2006, 11:46:13 AM EST
                                                     And that means "Windows only" just how? - (Andrew Grygus) - (46) - Dec. 18, 2006, 12:29:27 PM EST
                                                         Re: And that means "Windows only" just how? - (andread) - (45) - Dec. 18, 2006, 05:07:48 PM EST
                                                             I'll bet companies that have to pay twice would like it. - (Another Scott) - Dec. 18, 2006, 05:30:08 PM EST
                                                             The value of PCs without software? - (pwhysall) - (43) - Dec. 18, 2006, 05:50:48 PM EST
                                                                 Re: The value of PCs without software? - (andread) - (42) - Dec. 19, 2006, 10:50:53 AM EST
                                                                     You are still missing it - (bepatient) - (18) - Dec. 19, 2006, 11:04:08 AM EST
                                                                         For values of "missing it" equal to "doesn't WANT to get it" - (CRConrad) - (14) - Dec. 19, 2006, 12:01:22 PM EST
                                                                             I understand the mental block - (bepatient) - (11) - Dec. 19, 2006, 12:17:14 PM EST
                                                                                 Bunk - (andread) - (10) - Dec. 19, 2006, 04:09:42 PM EST
                                                                                     Bullpucky - (bepatient) - Dec. 19, 2006, 05:53:03 PM EST
                                                                                     horsekabobs - (boxley) - (8) - Dec. 19, 2006, 05:59:16 PM EST
                                                                                         Are you talking desktops or servers? - (lincoln) - (7) - Dec. 20, 2006, 02:46:56 PM EST
                                                                                             Dell's schizophrenic regarding Linux. - (Another Scott) - (6) - Dec. 20, 2006, 03:05:24 PM EST
                                                                                                 Last I heard - though that was a while back . . . - (Andrew Grygus) - (5) - Dec. 20, 2006, 05:38:47 PM EST
                                                                                                     well, hear this - (andread) - (4) - Dec. 21, 2006, 09:44:01 AM EST
                                                                                                         Please note: S-E-R-V-E-R - (Andrew Grygus) - (3) - Dec. 21, 2006, 09:48:27 AM EST
                                                                                                             your words cited below - (andread) - (1) - Dec. 21, 2006, 09:54:30 AM EST
                                                                                                                 That's not what was said. - (pwhysall) - Dec. 21, 2006, 10:27:16 AM EST
                                                                                                             I can show you a desktop... - (pwhysall) - Dec. 21, 2006, 10:48:18 AM EST
                                                                             For values of "Chuckles" equal to "doesn't get it" - (andread) - (1) - Dec. 19, 2006, 04:13:48 PM EST
                                                                                 Chuckling my cheeks off. - (CRConrad) - Dec. 20, 2006, 03:44:30 AM EST
                                                                         Re: You are still missing it - (andread) - (2) - Dec. 19, 2006, 04:02:00 PM EST
                                                                             I didn't give you a car analogy - (bepatient) - (1) - Dec. 19, 2006, 05:59:53 PM EST
                                                                                 I think he's just trying to be annoying - (Andrew Grygus) - Dec. 20, 2006, 01:35:22 AM EST
                                                                     Re: The value of PCs without software? - (pwhysall) - (18) - Dec. 19, 2006, 11:26:46 AM EST
                                                                         full retail? - (andread) - (1) - Dec. 19, 2006, 04:03:50 PM EST
                                                                             Re: Business model - (hnick) - Dec. 19, 2006, 04:41:26 PM EST
                                                                         Re: The value of PCs without software? - (Simon_Jester) - (15) - Dec. 20, 2006, 09:48:41 AM EST
                                                                             Re: The value of PCs without software? - (pwhysall) - (14) - Dec. 20, 2006, 10:10:24 AM EST
                                                                                 Wow.... - (Simon_Jester) - (13) - Dec. 20, 2006, 11:44:26 AM EST
                                                                                     The refund is wrong. - (pwhysall) - (12) - Dec. 20, 2006, 11:47:07 AM EST
                                                                                         a little googling - (andread) - (11) - Dec. 21, 2006, 10:02:37 AM EST
                                                                                             Did ZD do a followup, hmmm? -NT - (Another Scott) - Dec. 21, 2006, 10:32:06 AM EST
                                                                                             No pressure...of course not. - (Simon_Jester) - Dec. 21, 2006, 02:20:52 PM EST
                                                                                             As a builder formerly listed as a "Microsoft Partner" - - (Andrew Grygus) - Dec. 21, 2006, 02:38:18 PM EST
                                                                                             Re: a little googling ____ Not. So. Fast. there, fanboy - (Ashton) - (7) - Dec. 22, 2006, 03:19:41 AM EST
                                                                                                 Ashton . . . you trying to overload the poor boy? - (Andrew Grygus) - Dec. 22, 2006, 12:48:15 PM EST
                                                                                                 Re: a little googling - (andread) - (5) - Dec. 22, 2006, 09:09:45 PM EST
                                                                                                     Ooh boy - (bepatient) - (4) - Dec. 22, 2006, 09:55:32 PM EST
                                                                                                         Ooh - (andread) - (3) - Dec. 23, 2006, 10:28:47 AM EST
                                                                                                             I know you're missing this on purpose, but ... - (drewk) - Dec. 23, 2006, 01:02:46 PM EST
                                                                                                             You STILL ignore the point - (bepatient) - Dec. 23, 2006, 01:21:51 PM EST
                                                                                                             Oh...So what, exactly, *did* you think we'd be discussing... - (CRConrad) - Dec. 23, 2006, 03:22:57 PM EST
                                                                     Car analogy holds - (jbrabeck) - (3) - Dec. 19, 2006, 02:23:48 PM EST
                                                                         Car analogy reeks - (andread) - (2) - Dec. 19, 2006, 04:15:45 PM EST
                                                                             Car analogy works - (ubernostrum) - Dec. 19, 2006, 04:58:52 PM EST
                                                                             Eh? - (pwhysall) - Dec. 20, 2006, 02:18:01 AM EST
                                             That's not what he was aiming for -NT - (drewk) - Dec. 17, 2006, 06:20:48 PM EST

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