Definitely don't do that

Post #223,601 by ben_tilly 9/7/05 11:07:21 PM Reply	Definitely don't do that If the dealer hears anything from you about what you're willing to pay, they've just heard the base negotiating price that they start from. For anything. Cheers, Ben I have come to believe that idealism without discipline is a quick road to disaster, while discipline without idealism is pointless. -- Aaron Ward (my brother)
Post #223,640 by Ashton 9/8/05 5:18:30 AM Reply	I don't think he said that you should Y. mentioned specifically Not-to mention 'some monthly amount you'd pay'. He said 'Know all that info' not 'Tell that info'. But your point should be stressed, I agree: NEVER reveal your own limits! (I also Mike meant by 'dealer invoice' above, not the silly piece of paper in window - but what CU or other provided as ~ actual dealer cost. That will be at least, close.) Also not given enough attention above IMO - you can almost always beat financing from a dealer via a Cr. Union or similar. (AFTER a firm cash price has been sealed, would be When you ask dealer - if you must; then you'd best have your biz-%calc handily there, or in mind, to detect the fudging and 'muffler adjustment' fees.) These guys are almost 16% as bad as the Bushies, after all! Canna say.. where credit is besmirched; maybe sometimes the dealer Is the last resort (?) My 3 \ufffd
Post #223,655 by Yendor 9/8/05 10:04:32 AM Reply	Re: Definitely don't do that You must be misinterpreting me, because I never said to say what you're willing to pay. You hold the money that the dealer wants to relieve you of. The price where you should start your negotiations is the dealer invoice -- IE, what the car dealer paid for the car. Yes, in rare situations, the dealer might take a loss on a given vehicle, but I don't think a Corolla fits that bill currently. And since this is not an American-owned car company, we don't need to consider "employee pricing." So you start your negotiations at what the dealer paid. Offer him a few hundred more than that, and stand firm. Personally, I don't haggle. When I've bought my cars, the dealers know that I know how much they've paid. They know that I'm willing to offer them some cash on top of that. And they know that they're not gonna be able to fuck with me. Education is your friend. When I went to buy my Maxima, the sales droid tried to go into the "what are you willing to pay per month" game. I never gave him a number, and he got flustered. He was a relatively new drone, and obviously not used to customers who didn't play along with his game. He had to run and get the sales manager, who handled me in a much more professional manner. And I ended up getting the deal I wanted on the car, and 1.9% financing to boot. If you pay the price on the sticker in the window of the car, you're getting fucked. Not screwed, but fucked. -YendorMike "They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety." - Benjamin Franklin, 1759 Historical Review of Pennsylvania
Post #223,657 by mmoffitt 9/8/05 10:32:07 AM 9/8/05 10:34:06 AM Reply	Good advice. That is precisely what I did when I bought the Sentra back in 1985 (and why it took 3 weeks to do it). On that deal, I walked out and the dealership kept calling me until finally I got the car for what I wanted ($500 above their cost). I guess the old way is still the best way. ;0) [Edit]: Back in 1985, Tercel's in NC were going for $1,000 to $2,000 above list. You got on a wait list, they called you, you came in and looked at the car, voted up or down and then paid through the nose. I wasn't going to do that and the Sentra was my next choice. If I'd have purchased a Tercel that year, in that region, I'd have paid over $10,000 for what, essentially, was a Sentra with a Toyota logo. bcnu, Mikem It would seem, therefore, that the three human impulses embodied in religion are fear, conceit, and hatred. The purpose of religion, one might say, is to give an air of respectibility to these passions. -- Bertrand Russell Edited by mmoffitt Sept. 8, 2005, 10:34:06 AM EDT Expand All History
Post #223,688 by ben_tilly 9/8/05 1:41:26 PM Reply	Miscommunication, I was agreeing with you I have come to believe that idealism without discipline is a quick road to disaster, while discipline without idealism is pointless. -- Aaron Ward (my brother)

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