Post #221,771
8/31/05 1:38:08 AM
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I play a really small violin for thee
I'd love petrol to be $3 a gallon.
Peter
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Post #221,787
8/31/05 7:58:34 AM
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Pick some up when you pick up the London Bridge.
Of course, it may be $5 a gallon here by then (premium has been $3/gallon around here for a couple of weeks).
How much has the price over there increased over the last couple of years? It's roughly doubled here. Since much of the price in Europe is in taxes, I assume it hasn't doubled over there.
Cheers,
Scott.
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Post #221,788
8/31/05 8:01:01 AM
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Up to \ufffd1/litre in places.
I filled up on Monday morning and paid 91p/litre.
That's $6.12 a gallon.
So shutyerwhinging.
Peter
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Post #221,791
8/31/05 8:19:32 AM
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Hey. I wasn't whynghyng. Twas a Q about the changes.
I would have expected it to be more.
Condolences.
My last fillup was Monday - $2.59/gal for diesel ($0.68/l). That was ~ $0.30 less than regular. Up until very recently diesel was more than regular, so it's a nice change (in that limited respect).
Cheers,
Scott.
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Post #221,805
8/31/05 10:09:04 AM
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Just wait.
If Venezuela carries out its threat to base oil on your Euro instead of the US Dollar (as I think Russia already does) and the other large oil producing countries follow suit, we'll be begging for $9/gal here.
Aside: Gas here went to $2.79 yesterday. Today a gas station owner I know warned me, "Just got a call from xxxx oil. They're telling us to go up 50 cents at noon, to $3.29. If you need gas, you'd better get it now."
bcnu,
Mikem
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Post #221,807
8/31/05 10:23:18 AM
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Atlanta has a 7 day supply left and pipelines are off
until further notice, oil compasnies are discussing raising the price to $3 per gal to cool demand, It has already jumped 22 cents since Katrina hit.
thanx,
bill
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Post #221,819
8/31/05 11:27:24 AM
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It's all about the local vacations now.
Regards,
-scott anderson
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Post #221,832
8/31/05 11:56:16 AM
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Detroit, here you come..
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Post #221,862
8/31/05 12:59:07 PM
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Moved early. As of 10am it's $3.29 here.
bcnu,
Mikem
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Post #222,096
8/31/05 11:37:37 PM
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I think Peter's got a point.
I'm used to thinking of Petrol in AU$ per litre. US$ per gallon simply doesn't mean anything to me. Around here, it's averaging AU$1.15/l. That's the highest Australia has ever had it - but it's been over AU$0.90/l for more than a year. That's ~US$0.88/l and US$0.69/l respectively.
Throughout the nearly 20 years I've been driving, the US has had cheaper petrol than much of the world. Often much cheaper, and always cheaper than Australia.* Not to wish you any hardship, but I personally think that US$6/gallon petrol might finally start bringing home to the J. Average US Consumer that oil is getting harder to find and like maybe we should stop using it up so fast!
Wade.
* And the UK has AFAIR had much more expensive petrol than Australia.
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Post #222,098
8/31/05 11:44:01 PM
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0.88 USD / Liter here now
$3.20/g on the sign I passed as I drove home, and I think Detroit prices are cheaper than other places by a good bit.
But yes, I agree with the rest of your points. But the problem is that since we *are* used to lower prices, huge increases like this tend to shock the economy badly.
Regards,
-scott anderson
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Post #222,130
9/1/05 12:59:32 AM
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Yes, that's a problem.
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Post #222,164
9/1/05 9:38:26 AM
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RE: Your .sig: Hey, how'd you make the Reversed "d"?
Err... oh... nevermind.
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Post #221,850
8/31/05 12:43:10 PM
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But is your commute over 30 miles each way?
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Post #221,851
8/31/05 12:44:20 PM
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What's that got to do with the zen of cucumbers?
Peter
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Post #221,858
8/31/05 12:54:31 PM
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economic pain = price*quantity
Your price is higher than mine, but my demand is higher than yours.
Yeah, yeah. My problem. I know. But it still affects my perspective.
Cheers,
Ben
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Post #221,860
8/31/05 12:56:40 PM
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That'd be your choice, then.
*hides*
Peter
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Post #221,876
8/31/05 1:11:08 PM
8/31/05 1:12:35 PM
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Yes, it would. As I said up front.
The alternatives were that my wife could have the commute, I could change my job or my wife could give up her residency.
So far I want to stay in a job I'm happy with, and I'm willing to face the commute for it.
Cheers,
Ben
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Edited by ben_tilly
Aug. 31, 2005, 01:12:35 PM EDT
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Post #221,912
8/31/05 3:17:52 PM
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Any remote chance: a ride-pool sorta thing, given 'hours' ?
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Post #222,122
9/1/05 12:33:50 AM
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Nope. I have odd hours. And they move a lot.
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Post #221,861
8/31/05 12:57:44 PM
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Mine's 57 miles each way.
Funny thing is, now auto gas is higher than Avgas - I know, I know, just wait.
bcnu,
Mikem
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Post #221,993
8/31/05 6:10:21 PM
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Gocha beat...63 miles each way
And Chicago has the highest gas prices in the nation, according to a AAA survey.
Merry Christmas, Big Oil fatasses! Please try to clean up your jizz before you leave....
jb4
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Post #222,006
8/31/05 6:45:15 PM
8/21/07 6:01:32 AM
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I'd say both of you ought to consider relocation
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Post #222,190
9/1/05 11:28:17 AM
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Heh.
We just built a house up at the a in 2000 to get out of Fort Wayne. I'm not complaining about the price of gas. We could sell the dream house my wife and I worked and saved for almost 20 years or I could keep it and jack ever increasing amounts of cash up the arses of families like the Bushes and the Cheneys. I am aware that those are my choices. ;0)
bcnu,
Mikem
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Post #222,324
9/1/05 6:29:09 PM
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In this housing market,
you don't just up and leave. But relocation was in the cards...however, now that the scratch needed to fix up the place to seel it is going out the tailpipe...
jb4
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Post #222,050
8/31/05 8:58:36 PM
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Pshaw
98 miles each way.
I am telecommuting 2 or 3 days per week now. However, I drove every day of July and first half of August.
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Post #222,055
8/31/05 9:21:53 PM
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Wanna borrow my cycle?
Long pickup, but - ~53 mpg if kept under 75ish.
(Besides, you'll Love It and then we can deal..)
'81 KZ-550 DOHC-4 mint + trick floating-iron Grimeka f.brake = 2 fingers for squealie wheels.
Impossibly lo-miles, etc.
(One o'those corner office guys with a free hold in a Gulfstream?)
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Post #222,214
9/1/05 12:55:07 PM
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I've been thinking along those lines
Looking into 40+ mpg cars and realizing that I could go 50+ on 2 wheels.
Problem is it is all very large NJ highways and not necessarily the safest place to be without doors and bumpers.
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Post #222,221
9/1/05 1:07:29 PM
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I had fewer problems on TPK and GSP
than local roads and streets.
A ride that long would suck in the rain, almost any time in the winter, and any time traffic got snarled.
That being said, there's nothing like riding; it beats the hell out of driving. You'd love it!
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Post #222,222
9/1/05 1:08:05 PM
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Just bought one
I just found an '81 Honda CX500 for $800. 18K miles on it, guy said he got about 55mpg with it. It's in the shop getting new front fork seals and a tune up right now.
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Post #222,361
9/1/05 9:04:20 PM
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Synchronicity!
Stopped by local Post Office after a town run.. parked next to a well-worn
CX-500.
Admit I hadn't thought much about a small V-twin, despite Loving the torque of the Vincent 55\ufffd V-twin / 1000 cc. Think I never rode a CX, and have rarely seen them on road.. could be a sleeper though, as in - smooth, reliable, decent handling (but just no Macho Waay-Too-Big pizzazz for Murican tastes.)
I perused it a bit before leaving - nice handily located teeny starter; typ Honda neatness in layout -- and in winter: a pair of handwarmers (one-at-a-time) strategically located.
Lucky you,
Ashton
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Post #222,401
9/1/05 11:48:09 PM
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Rode it some tonight
I had the same thought re: handwarmers, convenient! It's a decent runner, and fairly nimble. Nothing like my former CB750F, VFR750 Interceptor, or Suzuki Katana 600, but that's not it's purpose. I wanted something with enough power to not be dangerous, yet small enough to be light on fuel demands. Unfortunately, though, it's going to be a couple of weeks before I can ride full time, I stupidly opted against renewing the M/C classification on my driver's license, so need to go through that process again.
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Post #222,416
9/2/05 6:32:46 AM
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Oh Yeah: Always renew!
You silly :-0
I've always held that ~250 - 350 cc was an optimum size for man- or woman-handling with maximum control; actually I mean ~280-330 #, whatever the displacement.
(A 350 cc Velocette was Nice - in 'coaster races' == engine off and just go down some nice 2-lane; see who has to use brakes First. A decent comparo of raw-manageability.)
And I traded-down, after getting "the first commercially produced 'Four Cylinder!'" - the CB-750. Beautifully smooth, just too much avoirdupois -- though of course, in a class way beyond the Harley Trucks of almost any jour; et 'em for lunch, including re mere comfort, along with the handling, decent brakes for the day.
Give us a report when you've had it down the twisties, y'hear?
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Post #222,327
9/1/05 6:30:54 PM
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Not sure you'd wanna ride 2 wheels in a NJ winter...
I know for a fact I wouldn't in a Chicago/Milwaukee winter...!
jb4
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Post #222,423
9/2/05 7:35:52 AM
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I did it one Cleveland winter
I was broke, living off campus up the hill in Cleveland Hts, and going to Case at the bottom of the hill. I'd show up for 8:00 class with a thermos of coffee, ice in my beard and moustache, and be shaking so hard I could barely pour the coffee. Ice patches on hills were also good for a little excitement too. The next winter I managed to get a cheapie car.
The good old days, eh?
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Post #222,409
9/2/05 2:14:01 AM
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So had a co-worker
She'd long said that if gas got to $3/gallon, she'd get a motorcycle.
I asked her about it today and she said that she'd been noticing a lot more dangerous drivers lately, and her life wasn't worth risking.
Cheers,
Ben
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