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Post #210,209
by pwhysall
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6/7/05 8:35:42 AM
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New "Valet button"?
No such thing on my car. If the key doesn't fit, the immobiliser stays on, and the engine doesn't start.


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Post #210,210
by boxley
6/7/05 8:39:51 AM
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New what is an immobilizer
it is a device that separates 2 wires and uses a relay to join them when a signal is given, yank the farker out of the way and wire them directly. Alternatively run a wire from the positive cable on the battery directly to the coil and jump the solenoid Im off, yer walking.
thanx,
bill
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Post #210,211
by pwhysall
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6/7/05 8:40:45 AM
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New Never heard of that.
Can't see it working on any car with electronic ignition, either (controlled by EMU which is connected to immobiliser)

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Post #210,219
by boxley
6/7/05 9:57:26 AM
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New how is it connected to an immobilizer? a wire?
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Post #210,237
by pwhysall
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6/7/05 12:19:46 PM
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New Indeed.
Mr EMU starts up, says to Mr Immobiliser "Sir, have we a proper key?"

Mr Immobiliser says, "Why, yes, we do."

Mr EMU says, "That's a good thing. I can't start this here engine without that, you know."

And Mr EMU then proceeds to deign to allow the electronic ignition to start.

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Post #210,241
by boxley
6/7/05 12:26:30 PM
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New and the laguage they speak is called voltage
bypass that sucker in a heartbeat.
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Post #210,243
by pwhysall
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6/7/05 12:31:22 PM
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New Right.
If you can start Bill's car without keys on July 3 then I'll buy you a beer.

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Post #210,245
by boxley
6/7/05 12:33:20 PM
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New is this the widget in question? (new thread)
Created as new thread #210244 titled [link|/forums/render/content/show?contentid=210244|is this the widget in question?]
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     Can I trust this? - (ben_tilly) - (165) - June 5, 2005, 12:11:00 AM EDT
         Dunno, but seems pretty low. - (Another Scott) - (1) - June 5, 2005, 12:36:33 AM EDT
             No trade-in - (ben_tilly) - June 5, 2005, 02:08:30 AM EDT
         No - (broomberg) - (1) - June 5, 2005, 01:17:36 AM EDT
             Thought not :-) - (ben_tilly) - June 5, 2005, 02:05:18 AM EDT
         Can you get a written quote? - (pwhysall) - (2) - June 5, 2005, 03:01:07 AM EDT
             It is here as well...but there are ways around that... -NT - (ben_tilly) - (1) - June 5, 2005, 03:12:01 AM EDT
                 Troof. These are CAR DEALERS we're talking about, after all. -NT - (pwhysall) - June 5, 2005, 03:22:48 AM EDT
         Maybe - - (Ashton) - (8) - June 5, 2005, 04:22:46 AM EDT
             Am I being too picky? - (ben_tilly) - (7) - June 5, 2005, 10:14:53 AM EDT
                 That depends. - (pwhysall) - (2) - June 5, 2005, 10:48:26 AM EDT
                     Right. I just hate spending money. - (ben_tilly) - (1) - June 5, 2005, 11:29:02 AM EDT
                         Re: Right. I just hate spending money. - (Ashton) - June 6, 2005, 05:15:25 AM EDT
                 Don't do it - (broomberg) - (2) - June 5, 2005, 11:16:08 AM EDT
                     Good points - (ben_tilly) - (1) - June 5, 2005, 11:27:39 AM EDT
                         Just be a reasonable alternative - (broomberg) - June 5, 2005, 11:53:51 AM EDT
                 Don't choose between sizes based on price. - (Another Scott) - June 5, 2005, 11:27:40 AM EDT
         If you are paying cash - (boxley) - (5) - June 5, 2005, 08:11:42 AM EDT
             Re: "tell them that you are comparing" - (a6l6e6x) - (4) - June 5, 2005, 12:24:06 PM EDT
                 I didnt even look at GM even tho I get the discount - (boxley) - (1) - June 5, 2005, 12:42:18 PM EDT
                     Better than Fords - (tuberculosis) - Aug. 21, 2007, 06:05:28 AM EDT
                 There is a *reason* that GM is desperate - (ben_tilly) - (1) - June 5, 2005, 02:59:14 PM EDT
                     No argument there. Last one I owned was a 1980 Citation. -NT - (a6l6e6x) - June 5, 2005, 10:26:39 PM EDT
         Was price quoted on one of the demo models? - (jbrabeck) - (1) - June 5, 2005, 08:30:38 AM EDT
             Will check on that - (ben_tilly) - June 5, 2005, 09:30:01 AM EDT
         now have you looked at khia's more car less price - (boxley) - (17) - June 5, 2005, 11:37:56 AM EDT
             Re: now have you looked at khia's more car less price - (Yendor) - June 5, 2005, 11:54:17 AM EDT
             Kia, not Khia - (broomberg) - (7) - June 5, 2005, 11:56:35 AM EDT
                 What, you never heard of a Garmann Khia? :) -NT - (a6l6e6x) - (6) - June 5, 2005, 12:26:10 PM EDT
                     well I meant the Korean not the Carmen:-) -NT - (boxley) - June 5, 2005, 12:39:10 PM EDT
                     No, but I have heard of a VW Karmen-Ghia. -NT - (folkert) - (4) - June 5, 2005, 11:30:56 PM EDT
                         No you haven't; Alex had it right. - (CRConrad) - (3) - June 6, 2005, 03:09:24 AM EDT
                             My favorite Picker of Nits! -NT - (folkert) - (1) - June 6, 2005, 07:12:24 AM EDT
                                 Bah, I bet you say that to *all* the girls! - (CRConrad) - June 6, 2005, 09:45:36 AM EDT
                             That's a Bingo! -NT - (a6l6e6x) - June 6, 2005, 08:47:23 AM EDT
             That's the life span of an American car - (tuberculosis) - Aug. 21, 2007, 06:05:32 AM EDT
             No, and quality matters - (ben_tilly) - (6) - June 5, 2005, 04:12:08 PM EDT
                 Re: No, and quality matters - (dws) - (1) - June 5, 2005, 04:22:04 PM EDT
                     On Hyundai... - (pwhysall) - June 5, 2005, 04:28:55 PM EDT
                 they wouldnt offer such a warranty if they expected expensiv - (boxley) - (3) - June 5, 2005, 04:34:46 PM EDT
                     Actually, no - (broomberg) - June 5, 2005, 05:06:02 PM EDT
                     Point - (ben_tilly) - (1) - June 5, 2005, 05:20:08 PM EDT
                         didnt know about the milage, mind changed -NT - (boxley) - June 5, 2005, 06:45:04 PM EDT
         Probably add local delivery, taxes and tags. - (bepatient) - (71) - June 5, 2005, 04:39:07 PM EDT
             And it will never, ever break. - (pwhysall) - (70) - June 5, 2005, 04:42:44 PM EDT
                 Depends. - (Another Scott) - (66) - June 5, 2005, 05:17:36 PM EDT
                     Re: Depends. - (Ashton) - (1) - June 6, 2005, 05:46:45 AM EDT
                         Werd. - (pwhysall) - June 6, 2005, 07:01:40 AM EDT
                     Sure it's a wheel bearing? - (Steve Lowe) - (63) - June 6, 2005, 04:33:22 PM EDT
                         Seconded.. though usually.. those 'click' not whine (?) - (Ashton) - (60) - June 6, 2005, 05:02:47 PM EDT
                             Most interesting... - (pwhysall) - (59) - June 6, 2005, 05:07:26 PM EDT
                                 Can't you weird Brit-peeples say "left" and "right"? - (CRConrad) - (58) - June 7, 2005, 07:43:22 AM EDT
                                     Dear CRC - (pwhysall) - (51) - June 7, 2005, 08:13:52 AM EDT
                                         I bet he has a really clean house! -NT - (bionerd) - (50) - June 7, 2005, 02:31:43 PM EDT
                                             Oh, bullcrap. So, silly vego-person, can *you*... - (CRConrad) - (49) - June 8, 2005, 07:49:41 AM EDT
                                                 You need to turn up your humor detector. :-) -NT - (Another Scott) - June 8, 2005, 08:04:18 AM EDT
                                                 Stop being a knobhead, CRC. - (pwhysall) - (37) - June 8, 2005, 08:06:21 AM EDT
                                                     He's not he is being CRC so leave him be -NT - (boxley) - June 8, 2005, 08:23:26 AM EDT
                                                     You first, PeeWee. - (CRConrad) - (35) - June 8, 2005, 08:27:14 AM EDT
                                                         Oh, give it a rest, ffs. - (pwhysall) - (34) - June 8, 2005, 08:34:27 AM EDT
                                                             Any time. - (CRConrad) - (11) - June 8, 2005, 09:10:40 AM EDT
                                                                 Re: Any time. - (pwhysall) - (9) - June 8, 2005, 09:39:56 AM EDT
                                                                     AKA "I don't have any real answer". OK, noted. -NT - (CRConrad) - (6) - June 8, 2005, 09:46:19 AM EDT
                                                                         Yellow flag thrown! - (bepatient) - (5) - June 8, 2005, 10:33:49 AM EDT
                                                                             Bonus points awarded - (rcareaga) - (2) - June 8, 2005, 11:25:01 AM EDT
                                                                                 Having at WHOM? - (pwhysall) - (1) - June 8, 2005, 05:56:04 PM EDT
                                                                                     I stand corrected - (rcareaga) - June 9, 2005, 12:05:06 AM EDT
                                                                             Oh, and by the way ... - (drewk) - (1) - June 8, 2005, 12:20:09 PM EDT
                                                                                 ICLRPD (new thread) - (boxley) - June 8, 2005, 12:37:29 PM EDT
                                                                     No, no, no. - (admin) - (1) - June 8, 2005, 10:52:36 AM EDT
                                                                         ROFL! - (folkert) - June 8, 2005, 11:03:42 AM EDT
                                                                 And there we are. - (mmoffitt) - June 8, 2005, 12:35:35 PM EDT
                                                             Normal usage? Not here. - (ben_tilly) - (21) - June 8, 2005, 02:01:53 PM EDT
                                                                 ICLRPD (new thread) - (CRConrad) - June 8, 2005, 02:21:01 PM EDT
                                                                 So I guess... - (admin) - (19) - June 8, 2005, 03:14:33 PM EDT
                                                                     Furlongs -NT - (drewk) - (1) - June 8, 2005, 03:16:47 PM EDT
                                                                         no. - (pwhysall) - June 8, 2005, 03:29:43 PM EDT
                                                                     You're risking a barrage of Norse longboat vituperation. ;) - (Another Scott) - (1) - June 8, 2005, 03:23:04 PM EDT
                                                                         Keeps the LRPDs coming, dunnit? -NT - (admin) - June 8, 2005, 03:28:23 PM EDT
                                                                     thats knot a good measurement -NT - (boxley) - June 8, 2005, 03:38:51 PM EDT
                                                                     Um, actually, I think that your guess was backwards - (ben_tilly) - (13) - June 8, 2005, 05:17:34 PM EDT
                                                                         I had it backwards, actually. - (pwhysall) - (1) - June 8, 2005, 05:25:42 PM EDT
                                                                             what no fenders or wheel wells hood or trunk? -NT - (boxley) - June 8, 2005, 05:51:31 PM EDT
                                                                         Confused? No. - (admin) - (10) - June 8, 2005, 05:57:10 PM EDT
                                                                             Kind of invalidates your parallel, doesn't it though? - (CRConrad) - (9) - June 8, 2005, 06:28:51 PM EDT
                                                                                 It's called "hyperbole". HTH! -NT - (admin) - (8) - June 8, 2005, 06:30:11 PM EDT
                                                                                     OK, that's another word for it. Thanks! - (CRConrad) - (7) - June 9, 2005, 03:35:09 AM EDT
                                                                                         Whatever gets you through the day. - (admin) - (6) - June 9, 2005, 08:15:55 AM EDT
                                                                                             I think you're forgetting the most salient detail here... - (CRConrad) - (5) - June 9, 2005, 09:37:02 AM EDT
                                                                                                 Ha, nice try. - (admin) - (4) - June 9, 2005, 10:05:27 AM EDT
                                                                                                     Not even a "nice try" from you, though. - (CRConrad) - (3) - June 9, 2005, 02:55:56 PM EDT
                                                                                                         Sorry, not my conversation, yours. -NT - (admin) - (2) - June 9, 2005, 04:14:30 PM EDT
                                                                                                             Ha ha, very funny. But, hey, if you're granting... - (CRConrad) - (1) - June 10, 2005, 02:38:21 AM EDT
                                                                                                                 No, you mistake my meaning. - (admin) - June 10, 2005, 08:22:40 AM EDT
                                                 Yeah, actually I did understand what Peter was talking about - (bionerd) - (9) - June 8, 2005, 09:56:51 AM EDT
                                                     ... - (admin) - June 8, 2005, 10:53:33 AM EDT
                                                     You keep coming back to that. - (pwhysall) - June 8, 2005, 11:04:04 AM EDT
                                                     Errrrmh, <cough>... ummm - (folkert) - June 8, 2005, 11:05:07 AM EDT
                                                     Oh, you're all just basking in your cleverness, arent you? -NT - (bionerd) - (4) - June 8, 2005, 11:51:16 AM EDT
                                                         They're sure basking in something! - (Nightowl) - June 8, 2005, 11:58:10 AM EDT
                                                         Had I seen it in time, I too would have been sorely tempted. -NT - (CRConrad) - June 8, 2005, 01:44:30 PM EDT
                                                         poor fellas cant tell the difference between an adjective - (boxley) - (1) - June 8, 2005, 06:28:39 PM EDT
                                                             If you've got... - (pwhysall) - June 8, 2005, 06:13:58 PM EDT
                                                     OK,w/ that admission you can to call me (or NE1) one too! :) -NT - (CRConrad) - June 8, 2005, 01:47:38 PM EDT
                                     Oh *absolutely* gibber the Norse longboat terminology at us -NT - (drewk) - (4) - June 7, 2005, 09:26:31 AM EDT
                                         ICLFRPD (new thread) - (pwhysall) - June 7, 2005, 09:49:41 AM EDT
                                         Uh, that would be Larboard/Starboard, Lubber Boy -NT - (tuberculosis) - (2) - Aug. 21, 2007, 06:13:18 AM EDT
                                             nope havn/styrbord larboard is the same -NT - (boxley) - (1) - June 7, 2005, 02:14:07 PM EDT
                                                 Not so - (tuberculosis) - Aug. 21, 2007, 06:13:39 AM EDT
                                     Doubly so when they drive on the wrong side of the road -NT - (ben_tilly) - June 7, 2005, 02:33:16 PM EDT
                         It seems like a wheel bearing. - (Another Scott) - (1) - June 6, 2005, 09:07:15 PM EDT
                             The wheel bearing's fine. Needs a rear McPherson strut. (new thread) - (Another Scott) - June 11, 2005, 08:06:48 PM EDT
                 Consumer Reports likes them - (ben_tilly) - (2) - June 5, 2005, 06:02:07 PM EDT
                     Re: Consumer Reports likes them - (lincoln) - (1) - June 6, 2005, 01:23:37 PM EDT
                         Means it is even better than advertised. :-) -NT - (ben_tilly) - June 6, 2005, 08:09:50 PM EDT
         Internet/Fleet sales is the way to go - (tonytib) - (6) - June 5, 2005, 08:30:28 PM EDT
             that's how I bought my '96 Nissan Altima - (cforde) - (2) - June 6, 2005, 01:12:51 AM EDT
                 '96 Nissan Altima - (Ashton) - (1) - June 6, 2005, 05:52:34 AM EDT
                     ICLRPD (new thread) - (Steve Lowe) - June 6, 2005, 04:24:35 PM EDT
             Over here, one avoids ex-fleet cars like t'plague. - (pwhysall) - (2) - June 6, 2005, 01:26:47 AM EDT
                 Please read more carefully - (tonytib) - (1) - June 6, 2005, 09:29:57 PM EDT
                     Over here... - (pwhysall) - June 7, 2005, 01:28:32 AM EDT
         Some things I saw. - (static) - June 5, 2005, 11:07:04 PM EDT
         It looks like I can trust it (is LoJack worthwhile?) - (ben_tilly) - (34) - June 5, 2005, 11:20:26 PM EDT
             Yes. Do you know what it is/does? -NT - (folkert) - (1) - June 5, 2005, 11:28:39 PM EDT
                 I know what it is/does - (ben_tilly) - June 5, 2005, 11:43:02 PM EDT
             Do you know of anyone out there that's had a car stolen? - (Another Scott) - (3) - June 5, 2005, 11:39:47 PM EDT
                 This *IS* Los Angeles - (ben_tilly) - June 5, 2005, 11:48:29 PM EDT
                 It does happen. - (admin) - (1) - June 6, 2005, 07:43:45 AM EDT
                     Had my new '87 'stang stolen... - (folkert) - June 6, 2005, 04:40:27 PM EDT
             Take it - (broomberg) - (2) - June 5, 2005, 11:43:06 PM EDT
                 I believe there is no sticker with LoJack - (ben_tilly) - (1) - June 5, 2005, 11:44:58 PM EDT
                     If professional thieves get it, it won't matter -NT - (drewk) - June 5, 2005, 11:47:57 PM EDT
             I *would* have said yes, but look at the insurance company - (drewk) - (1) - June 5, 2005, 11:46:19 PM EDT
                 Yabut, there is a twist - (ben_tilly) - June 5, 2005, 11:52:57 PM EDT
             Aren't taxes computed on the before rebate price? -NT - (lincoln) - (1) - June 6, 2005, 01:26:43 PM EDT
                 Yes. -NT - (ben_tilly) - June 6, 2005, 08:10:13 PM EDT
             If the insurance company thinks so, they'll pay for it - (tuberculosis) - (20) - Aug. 21, 2007, 06:08:46 AM EDT
                 How odd all this is. - (pwhysall) - (19) - June 6, 2005, 05:38:49 PM EDT
                     if the car starts by inserting a key into a tumbler - (boxley) - (15) - June 6, 2005, 06:11:47 PM EDT
                         Slide hammer is faster than a drill. -NT - (hnick) - June 6, 2005, 06:25:09 PM EDT
                         Pair of scissors - (rcareaga) - June 6, 2005, 06:32:35 PM EDT
                         OK. You're in. Now start it. - (pwhysall) - June 7, 2005, 01:29:47 AM EDT
                         Don't work for modern anti-theft ignition killers. - (static) - (11) - June 7, 2005, 02:39:32 AM EDT
                             That's certainly the case for my car. -NT - (pwhysall) - June 7, 2005, 02:53:35 AM EDT
                             cant press the valet button? - (boxley) - (9) - June 7, 2005, 08:31:47 AM EDT
                                 "Valet button"? - (pwhysall) - (7) - June 7, 2005, 08:35:42 AM EDT
                                     what is an immobilizer - (boxley) - (6) - June 7, 2005, 08:39:51 AM EDT
                                         Never heard of that. - (pwhysall) - (5) - June 7, 2005, 08:40:45 AM EDT
                                             how is it connected to an immobilizer? a wire? -NT - (boxley) - (4) - June 7, 2005, 09:57:26 AM EDT
                                                 Indeed. - (pwhysall) - (3) - June 7, 2005, 12:19:46 PM EDT
                                                     and the laguage they speak is called voltage - (boxley) - (1) - June 7, 2005, 12:26:30 PM EDT
                                                         Right. - (pwhysall) - June 7, 2005, 12:31:22 PM EDT
                                                     is this the widget in question? (new thread) - (boxley) - June 7, 2005, 12:33:20 PM EDT
                                 Don't have one of those. - (static) - June 7, 2005, 09:02:28 PM EDT
                     Arse 1! -NT - (pwhysall) - June 7, 2005, 02:00:18 AM EDT
                     Arse 2! -NT - (pwhysall) - June 7, 2005, 02:00:39 AM EDT
                     Falling Car Crime In The UK & The Great Insurance Ripoff (new thread) - (pwhysall) - June 7, 2005, 01:59:33 AM EDT
         Purchased - (ben_tilly) - (7) - June 6, 2005, 09:16:17 PM EDT
             Congrats! -NT - (Another Scott) - June 6, 2005, 08:35:53 PM EDT
             car dealers never lose :-) - (boxley) - (2) - June 6, 2005, 09:18:17 PM EDT
                 He lost according to Toyota's figures - (ben_tilly) - (1) - June 6, 2005, 09:48:01 PM EDT
                     Re: He lost according to Toyota's figures - (dws) - June 6, 2005, 10:46:31 PM EDT
             suggestion.. - (cforde) - (2) - June 9, 2005, 03:02:31 AM EDT
                 I'll definitely think about that - (ben_tilly) - June 9, 2005, 02:25:15 PM EDT
                 ICLRPD (new thread) - (ben_tilly) - June 9, 2005, 02:25:28 PM EDT

It was April the 41st. Being a quadruple leapyear, I was driving in downtown Atlantis. My Barracuda was in the shop, so I was in a rented Stingray... and it was overheating.
887 ms