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Collapse Edited by pwhysall June 7, 2005, 02:00:39 AM EDT
Falling Car Crime In The UK & The Great Insurance Ripoff

Googling around shows us (although I can't find a nice graph anywhere) that car crime in the UK is falling. This is probably largely due to the increased security of vehicles and the focus on immobilisation.

This rather vague [link|http://www.crimereduction.gov.uk/statistics28.htm|graph] shows that car crime has fallen by 31% (it says further down) since 1997.

I found this table on [link|http://www.elephant.co.uk/Press_releases/Press_Office/press_releases/general/Press_Release_29-04-03.phtml|this] page.

Nationality Overall Stolen outright Broken into
German 1st 3rd 2nd
American 2nd 1st 6th
British 3rd 2nd 7th
Italian 4th 6th 1st
Japanese 5th 4th 3rd
Korean 6th 8th 4th
French 7th 7th 5th
Swedish 8th 5th 8th
Spanish 9th 9th 9th
Czech 10th 10th 10th

Not exactly cheery reading for me, as you can imagine. I'm trying to persuade the neighbours to buy a Mercedes SLK to distract the hordes of thieves.

The good news for motorists is that car crime is actually falling in the UK as security devices improve and we all become more aware of the risks involved. However if you want to cut the risk of car crime even further, it may be worth considering buying a Skoda, a Seat or a Volvo.

Hahayeahrightnothanks. Skoda: Fine cars. Ugly-ass. Poor residuals. Seat: Expensive to get one with any poke at all. (The Leon Cupra is a nice motah, but results in a sharp, stabbing pain in the wallet) Volvo: It's a Ford, these days.

So why are the insurance companies rates going UP instead of DOWN?

The only reasonable theory I can come up with is that accident rates (and therefore payouts) are going up.

However, looking at [link|http://www.driveandstayalive.com/info%20section/statistics/stats-uk.htm|this] page, that's not the case; down is the trend in all categories of accident and casualties, from pedestrians to HGVs, with the sole exception that there were more knobbers who caused drink-driving related accidents. Bastards.

One is forced to the inevitable conclusion that, fellow Brit drivers, we're being robbed. £745 for fully comp on a 6-year old car when I've got a clean licence and 3 years NCB? Giraffe, but that was the cheapest I found.

.


Peter
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     Can I trust this? - (ben_tilly) - (165)
         Dunno, but seems pretty low. - (Another Scott) - (1)
             No trade-in - (ben_tilly)
         No - (broomberg) - (1)
             Thought not :-) - (ben_tilly)
         Can you get a written quote? - (pwhysall) - (2)
             It is here as well...but there are ways around that... -NT - (ben_tilly) - (1)
                 Troof. These are CAR DEALERS we're talking about, after all. -NT - (pwhysall)
         Maybe - - (Ashton) - (8)
             Am I being too picky? - (ben_tilly) - (7)
                 That depends. - (pwhysall) - (2)
                     Right. I just hate spending money. - (ben_tilly) - (1)
                         Re: Right. I just hate spending money. - (Ashton)
                 Don't do it - (broomberg) - (2)
                     Good points - (ben_tilly) - (1)
                         Just be a reasonable alternative - (broomberg)
                 Don't choose between sizes based on price. - (Another Scott)
         If you are paying cash - (boxley) - (5)
             Re: "tell them that you are comparing" - (a6l6e6x) - (4)
                 I didnt even look at GM even tho I get the discount - (boxley) - (1)
                     Better than Fords - (tuberculosis)
                 There is a *reason* that GM is desperate - (ben_tilly) - (1)
                     No argument there. Last one I owned was a 1980 Citation. -NT - (a6l6e6x)
         Was price quoted on one of the demo models? - (jbrabeck) - (1)
             Will check on that - (ben_tilly)
         now have you looked at khia's more car less price - (boxley) - (17)
             Re: now have you looked at khia's more car less price - (Yendor)
             Kia, not Khia - (broomberg) - (7)
                 What, you never heard of a Garmann Khia? :) -NT - (a6l6e6x) - (6)
                     well I meant the Korean not the Carmen:-) -NT - (boxley)
                     No, but I have heard of a VW Karmen-Ghia. -NT - (folkert) - (4)
                         No you haven't; Alex had it right. - (CRConrad) - (3)
                             My favorite Picker of Nits! -NT - (folkert) - (1)
                                 Bah, I bet you say that to *all* the girls! - (CRConrad)
                             That's a Bingo! -NT - (a6l6e6x)
             That's the life span of an American car - (tuberculosis)
             No, and quality matters - (ben_tilly) - (6)
                 Re: No, and quality matters - (dws) - (1)
                     On Hyundai... - (pwhysall)
                 they wouldnt offer such a warranty if they expected expensiv - (boxley) - (3)
                     Actually, no - (broomberg)
                     Point - (ben_tilly) - (1)
                         didnt know about the milage, mind changed -NT - (boxley)
         Probably add local delivery, taxes and tags. - (bepatient) - (71)
             And it will never, ever break. - (pwhysall) - (70)
                 Depends. - (Another Scott) - (66)
                     Re: Depends. - (Ashton) - (1)
                         Werd. - (pwhysall)
                     Sure it's a wheel bearing? - (Steve Lowe) - (63)
                         Seconded.. though usually.. those 'click' not whine (?) - (Ashton) - (60)
                             Most interesting... - (pwhysall) - (59)
                                 Can't you weird Brit-peeples say "left" and "right"? - (CRConrad) - (58)
                                     Dear CRC - (pwhysall) - (51)
                                         I bet he has a really clean house! -NT - (bionerd) - (50)
                                             Oh, bullcrap. So, silly vego-person, can *you*... - (CRConrad) - (49)
                                                 You need to turn up your humor detector. :-) -NT - (Another Scott)
                                                 Stop being a knobhead, CRC. - (pwhysall) - (37)
                                                     He's not he is being CRC so leave him be -NT - (boxley)
                                                     You first, PeeWee. - (CRConrad) - (35)
                                                         Oh, give it a rest, ffs. - (pwhysall) - (34)
                                                             Any time. - (CRConrad) - (11)
                                                                 Re: Any time. - (pwhysall) - (9)
                                                                     AKA "I don't have any real answer". OK, noted. -NT - (CRConrad) - (6)
                                                                         Yellow flag thrown! - (bepatient) - (5)
                                                                             Bonus points awarded - (rcareaga) - (2)
                                                                                 Having at WHOM? - (pwhysall) - (1)
                                                                                     I stand corrected - (rcareaga)
                                                                             Oh, and by the way ... - (drewk) - (1)
                                                                                 ICLRPD (new thread) - (boxley)
                                                                     No, no, no. - (admin) - (1)
                                                                         ROFL! - (folkert)
                                                                 And there we are. - (mmoffitt)
                                                             Normal usage? Not here. - (ben_tilly) - (21)
                                                                 ICLRPD (new thread) - (CRConrad)
                                                                 So I guess... - (admin) - (19)
                                                                     Furlongs -NT - (drewk) - (1)
                                                                         no. - (pwhysall)
                                                                     You're risking a barrage of Norse longboat vituperation. ;) - (Another Scott) - (1)
                                                                         Keeps the LRPDs coming, dunnit? -NT - (admin)
                                                                     thats knot a good measurement -NT - (boxley)
                                                                     Um, actually, I think that your guess was backwards - (ben_tilly) - (13)
                                                                         I had it backwards, actually. - (pwhysall) - (1)
                                                                             what no fenders or wheel wells hood or trunk? -NT - (boxley)
                                                                         Confused? No. - (admin) - (10)
                                                                             Kind of invalidates your parallel, doesn't it though? - (CRConrad) - (9)
                                                                                 It's called "hyperbole". HTH! -NT - (admin) - (8)
                                                                                     OK, that's another word for it. Thanks! - (CRConrad) - (7)
                                                                                         Whatever gets you through the day. - (admin) - (6)
                                                                                             I think you're forgetting the most salient detail here... - (CRConrad) - (5)
                                                                                                 Ha, nice try. - (admin) - (4)
                                                                                                     Not even a "nice try" from you, though. - (CRConrad) - (3)
                                                                                                         Sorry, not my conversation, yours. -NT - (admin) - (2)
                                                                                                             Ha ha, very funny. But, hey, if you're granting... - (CRConrad) - (1)
                                                                                                                 No, you mistake my meaning. - (admin)
                                                 Yeah, actually I did understand what Peter was talking about - (bionerd) - (9)
                                                     ... - (admin)
                                                     You keep coming back to that. - (pwhysall)
                                                     Errrrmh, <cough>... ummm - (folkert)
                                                     Oh, you're all just basking in your cleverness, arent you? -NT - (bionerd) - (4)
                                                         They're sure basking in something! - (Nightowl)
                                                         Had I seen it in time, I too would have been sorely tempted. -NT - (CRConrad)
                                                         poor fellas cant tell the difference between an adjective - (boxley) - (1)
                                                             If you've got... - (pwhysall)
                                                     OK,w/ that admission you can to call me (or NE1) one too! :) -NT - (CRConrad)
                                     Oh *absolutely* gibber the Norse longboat terminology at us -NT - (drewk) - (4)
                                         ICLFRPD (new thread) - (pwhysall)
                                         Uh, that would be Larboard/Starboard, Lubber Boy -NT - (tuberculosis) - (2)
                                             nope havn/styrbord larboard is the same -NT - (boxley) - (1)
                                                 Not so - (tuberculosis)
                                     Doubly so when they drive on the wrong side of the road -NT - (ben_tilly)
                         It seems like a wheel bearing. - (Another Scott) - (1)
                             The wheel bearing's fine. Needs a rear McPherson strut. (new thread) - (Another Scott)
                 Consumer Reports likes them - (ben_tilly) - (2)
                     Re: Consumer Reports likes them - (lincoln) - (1)
                         Means it is even better than advertised. :-) -NT - (ben_tilly)
         Internet/Fleet sales is the way to go - (tonytib) - (6)
             that's how I bought my '96 Nissan Altima - (cforde) - (2)
                 '96 Nissan Altima - (Ashton) - (1)
                     ICLRPD (new thread) - (Steve Lowe)
             Over here, one avoids ex-fleet cars like t'plague. - (pwhysall) - (2)
                 Please read more carefully - (tonytib) - (1)
                     Over here... - (pwhysall)
         Some things I saw. - (static)
         It looks like I can trust it (is LoJack worthwhile?) - (ben_tilly) - (34)
             Yes. Do you know what it is/does? -NT - (folkert) - (1)
                 I know what it is/does - (ben_tilly)
             Do you know of anyone out there that's had a car stolen? - (Another Scott) - (3)
                 This *IS* Los Angeles - (ben_tilly)
                 It does happen. - (admin) - (1)
                     Had my new '87 'stang stolen... - (folkert)
             Take it - (broomberg) - (2)
                 I believe there is no sticker with LoJack - (ben_tilly) - (1)
                     If professional thieves get it, it won't matter -NT - (drewk)
             I *would* have said yes, but look at the insurance company - (drewk) - (1)
                 Yabut, there is a twist - (ben_tilly)
             Aren't taxes computed on the before rebate price? -NT - (lincoln) - (1)
                 Yes. -NT - (ben_tilly)
             If the insurance company thinks so, they'll pay for it - (tuberculosis) - (20)
                 How odd all this is. - (pwhysall) - (19)
                     if the car starts by inserting a key into a tumbler - (boxley) - (15)
                         Slide hammer is faster than a drill. -NT - (hnick)
                         Pair of scissors - (rcareaga)
                         OK. You're in. Now start it. - (pwhysall)
                         Don't work for modern anti-theft ignition killers. - (static) - (11)
                             That's certainly the case for my car. -NT - (pwhysall)
                             cant press the valet button? - (boxley) - (9)
                                 "Valet button"? - (pwhysall) - (7)
                                     what is an immobilizer - (boxley) - (6)
                                         Never heard of that. - (pwhysall) - (5)
                                             how is it connected to an immobilizer? a wire? -NT - (boxley) - (4)
                                                 Indeed. - (pwhysall) - (3)
                                                     and the laguage they speak is called voltage - (boxley) - (1)
                                                         Right. - (pwhysall)
                                                     is this the widget in question? (new thread) - (boxley)
                                 Don't have one of those. - (static)
                     Arse 1! -NT - (pwhysall)
                     Arse 2! -NT - (pwhysall)
                     Falling Car Crime In The UK & The Great Insurance Ripoff (new thread) - (pwhysall)
         Purchased - (ben_tilly) - (7)
             Congrats! -NT - (Another Scott)
             car dealers never lose :-) - (boxley) - (2)
                 He lost according to Toyota's figures - (ben_tilly) - (1)
                     Re: He lost according to Toyota's figures - (dws)
             suggestion.. - (cforde) - (2)
                 I'll definitely think about that - (ben_tilly)
                 ICLRPD (new thread) - (ben_tilly)

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