Post #97,518
4/21/03 1:44:45 AM
4/21/03 1:49:42 AM
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wrong again, marlowe
--as a matter of fact, although I have numerous fond memories from my undergraduate years, it was always a take-it-or-leave-it proposition with me, and these latter decades it has been largely leave-it. Of the scores of people I know who do make regular use of it, I can think of just one whose moral and intellectual development the stuff may have impeded over the past 35 years (a 51 year-old ought not display the paintings of H.R. Giger in his home), and oddly enough his takes on domestic politics and foreign intervention seem to map in most particulars onto yours. Go figure. But I repeat, where does your right to dictate anyone's choice of recreational intoxicant enter into it?
Edit: I see, reviewing, that I thought you were speaking of cannabis rather than ecstasy, which is not much used in my circle and of which I have thus far neglected to acquire firsthand experience--although I also deny your right to dictate, et cetera.
"Die Welt ist alles, was der Fall ist."
Edited by rcareaga
April 21, 2003, 01:49:42 AM EDT
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Post #97,525
4/21/03 5:49:42 AM
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Wasted reasoning, I fear -
The Authoritarian-besotted are never in doubt about how You should live, and whenever the status quo proves uncomfortable for one of these folk - why, it becomes malleable: Moral Arbiters for All\ufffd are exempt from current regulations for maintaining Order. (Someone has to do the lab work for preparing new regulations!)
Oddly, this rationale does not ever trip their BS-detector - I think they just never replace the batteries.
Ashton
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Post #97,535
4/21/03 8:48:20 AM
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No, I was speaking of anything that impairs judgement...
and/or motor skills, in exchange for a high. This makes the user a danger to the rest of us.
And anything that impairs judgement or motor skills as a side effect - while meeting some legitimate medical need - must be used responsibly. But if the only point is to get high - artificial stupidity - then responsible use is a foregone conclusion almost from the beginning.
And I don't limit to chemicals. Any [link|http://denbeste.nu/cd_log_entries/2003/03/Initiationceremonies.shtml|addictive ideology] that gives short-term emotional reinforcement in exchange for [link|http://www.angelfire.com/ca3/marlowe/reality.png|what amounts to insanity] is also bad.
Now bad wall art is harmless. Nobody ever swerved onto the sidewalk and ran over a little girl because he was stoned on Giger. This may be a subtle distinction, but it is an important one.
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When the facts speak for themselves, only a fool insists on having a debate.
The future is leaving the station, the US is at the throttle, and the Left isn't on board.
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Post #97,537
4/21/03 9:03:45 AM
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That second link kills Galeon.
Peter
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Post #97,548
4/21/03 9:52:21 AM
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Motes, beams
Any addictive ideology that gives short-term emotional reinforcement in exchange for what amounts to insanity is also bad.
"Die Welt ist alles, was der Fall ist."
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Post #97,560
4/21/03 10:22:43 AM
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and there is the still-unassailable argument
...that if you wish to ban the use of "anything that impairs judgement [sic] and/or motor skills, in exchange for a high" (including ideologies: how...interesting) you must perforce begin by resurrecting the Volstead Act or something very like it, given that the percentage of little girls on sidewalks squashed by wheeled drunks each year so lavishly exceeds the stoners' market share of this vital sector.
May we look to you, marlowe, to lobby for a re-imposition of Prohibition anytime soon--and will dangerous mind-altering ideologies be included in the ban?
cordially,
"Die Welt ist alles, was der Fall ist."
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Post #97,561
4/21/03 10:38:45 AM
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In that case, Marlowe...PUT THAT BEER DOWN!!! NOW!!!
Or risk being proven the hypocrite that many of us already suspect you are.
jb4
"Programming today is a race between software engineers striving to build bigger and better idiot-proof programs, and the Universe trying to produce bigger and better idiots. So far, the Universe is winning."
Rich Cook
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Post #97,562
4/21/03 10:41:15 AM
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Too late. :)
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Post #97,568
4/21/03 10:54:01 AM
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And the cigarette!
Any addictive ideology that gives short-term emotional reinforcement
[link|mailto:jbrabeck@attbi.com|Joe]
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Post #97,605
4/21/03 12:06:51 PM
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And stop going to Church.
The world is only a simple place to the simple.
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Post #97,712
4/21/03 7:19:07 PM
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Nice try. I don't drink.
Assume makes an ass of you.
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Victory was the answer - to a great many problems.
When the facts speak for themselves, only a fool insists on having a debate.
The future is leaving the station, the US is at the throttle, and the Left isn't on board.
[link|http://www.angelfire.com/ca3/marlowe/index.html|http://www.angelfire...arlowe/index.html]
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Post #97,716
4/21/03 7:25:19 PM
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theres your solution, whats yer problem again?
will work for cash and other incentives [link|http://home.tampabay.rr.com/boxley/resume/Resume.html|skill set]
questions, help? [link|mailto:pappas@catholic.org|email pappas at catholic.org]
Carpe Dieu
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Post #97,718
4/21/03 7:29:08 PM
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Somehow - that doesn't surprise me.
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Post #97,743
4/21/03 10:41:54 PM
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No doubt - he's the Churchlady
Isn't that special?
Denies experience for himself - then forces it on everyone else.
Typical fascist.
-drl
Light is heavy:
R{} = (2R/W)T - (1/2W){D-2,D-2}W
Heavy is light:
(D-3)(RF[] + 5/4 g) = 0
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Post #97,746
4/21/03 10:49:10 PM
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You don't drink. You also...
conveniently ignore the question of whether in a marlowe-dominated society we might look forward to the reimposition of an expanded Volstead Act--so much easier to enforce with modern surveillance and data-farming techniques--for the greater glory and, ah, safety of the reic--realm.
cordially,
"Die Welt ist alles, was der Fall ist."
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Post #97,790
4/22/03 2:45:52 AM
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Well. you should.
Peter
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Post #97,628
4/21/03 2:09:30 PM
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Fix your HTML please.
You want img src= not a href= for you insanity link,
Alex
Men never do evil so completely and cheerfully as when they do it from religious conviction. -- Blaise Pascal (1623-1662)
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