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Post #93,808 by Mike 4/2/03 4:02:08 PM Reply	Have we moved on? If not........ In your wildest dreams..... wanna tell us what the fuck a supplies clerk was doing shooting non-combatants? "My purchase of a Hummer was inspired by our 1991 Gulf War victory. After this war, I'm buying an aircraft carrier." (The Onion)
Post #93,810 by jake123 4/2/03 4:04:20 PM Reply	Here's a question What was a supply clerk doing in a hot zone? --\n-------------------------------------------------------------------\n* Jack Troughton jake at consultron.ca \n [link\|http://consultron.ca\|http://consultron.ca] [link\|irc://irc.ecomstation.ca\|irc://irc.ecomstation.ca] \n Kingston Ontario Canada [link\|news://news.consultron.ca\|news://news.consultron.ca] *\n-------------------------------------------------------------------
Post #93,812 by Mike 4/2/03 4:08:33 PM Reply	I want to say..... ....her team took a wrong turn. But heck that's only what our utterly unreliable press have reported. Failing that....let's say she was ordered to be there to do supply clerking stuff (is that illegal?). Good question though. "My purchase of a Hummer was inspired by our 1991 Gulf War victory. After this war, I'm buying an aircraft carrier." (The Onion)
Post #93,815 by jbrabeck 4/2/03 4:13:18 PM Reply	Legal -Illegal Failing that....let's say she was ordered to be there to do supply clerking stuff (is that illegal?). Yes, that is a legal order, one that she was/is complied to obey. [link\|mailto:jbrabeck@attbi.com\|Joe]
Post #93,818 by Mike 4/2/03 4:14:50 PM Reply	I think we're on the same page "My purchase of a Hummer was inspired by our 1991 Gulf War victory. After this war, I'm buying an aircraft carrier." (The Onion)
Post #93,813 by admin 4/2/03 4:09:39 PM Reply	Wondered that myself. I don't know what her duties are. Since she was attached to a maintenance unit, perhaps it was something along the lines of recording supplies used/needed for maintenance. They were in a hot zone because they took a wrong turn on their way to fix something. Helluva wrong turn. :-P Regards, -scott anderson "Welcome to Rivendell, Mr. Anderson..."
Post #93,814 by jbrabeck 4/2/03 4:10:41 PM Reply	Someone has to resupply the front lines... Or do you mean "Why has the military failed to advance a pace where they could secure the supply lines"? [link\|mailto:jbrabeck@attbi.com\|Joe]
Post #93,819 by jake123 4/2/03 4:16:34 PM Reply	That's pretty much directly where that question takes you The only conclusion that I can come up with is that the planning didn't include any contingency planning: as in, "what happens if there is no rebellion against Hussein by the population at large?" Considering the noises coming out of the career military folks, I suspect that question got asked, but was dismissed by the People In Charge. The right way to use a military is to say "here's the goal; figure out how to do it. Keep me briefed." I don't think that's how it happened. This is the kind of thing that happens when decisions are driven by ideology rather than actual pragmatism. --\n-------------------------------------------------------------------\n* Jack Troughton jake at consultron.ca \n [link\|http://consultron.ca\|http://consultron.ca] [link\|irc://irc.ecomstation.ca\|irc://irc.ecomstation.ca] \n Kingston Ontario Canada [link\|news://news.consultron.ca\|news://news.consultron.ca] *\n-------------------------------------------------------------------
Post #93,811 by jbrabeck 4/2/03 4:07:06 PM Reply	Start at the beginning of the thread... It was said that she had a choice of being there. She didn't. Had to follow legal orders. Example was provided to show the difference between a legal order, attack Iraq and an illegal order, shoot non-combatants. [link\|mailto:jbrabeck@attbi.com\|Joe]
Post #93,816 by Mike 4/2/03 4:14:14 PM Reply	All I was saying was.... ...I think the issue of illegal vs. legal orders is not especially germaine to the situation which PFC Lynch found herself in. "My purchase of a Hummer was inspired by our 1991 Gulf War victory. After this war, I'm buying an aircraft carrier." (The Onion)

At last some really good news - Jessica Lynch rescued - (dmarker) - (57) - April 1, 2003, 08:56:31 PM EST

Re: At last some really good news - Jessica Lynch rescued - (rcareaga) - (56) - April 1, 2003, 09:14:20 PM EST

(uneasy grimace) -NT - (deSitter) - April 1, 2003, 09:15:38 PM EST

ROFL! 10 points + brevity award with an oak cluster -NT - (boxley) - April 1, 2003, 10:46:42 PM EST

Held in what sense? (remember wimin & childrun read this) - (dmarker) - (53) - April 2, 2003, 02:47:34 AM EST

Story not as good as 1st appeared - she was in serious cond - (dmarker) - (52) - April 2, 2003, 04:34:18 AM EST

How heinous can those Iraqis be? - (mmoffitt) - (51) - April 2, 2003, 08:05:46 AM EST

yep love those modern hospital beds with shackles and - (boxley) - (50) - April 2, 2003, 09:20:41 AM EST

Nope. Just found it ironic that a wounded POW would be there -NT - (mmoffitt) - (49) - April 2, 2003, 09:36:07 AM EST

Strange indeed - (Arkadiy) - (48) - April 2, 2003, 10:58:03 AM EST

Okay, this is entirely out of hand. - (mmoffitt) - (47) - April 2, 2003, 11:10:30 AM EST

What's more....... - (Mike) - (18) - April 2, 2003, 01:03:38 PM EST

Please, spare me the pap. - (mmoffitt) - (17) - April 2, 2003, 01:56:10 PM EST

You stole my title!!!!!!! - (Mike) - (16) - April 2, 2003, 02:48:21 PM EST

Now I need to support MMoffit.. - (jbrabeck) - (15) - April 2, 2003, 03:21:16 PM EST

Disagree - (Mike) - (14) - April 2, 2003, 03:57:01 PM EST

"You're damn right I did!" -NT - (jake123) - (5) - April 2, 2003, 04:03:57 PM EST

Lost you on that one Jake. What ya referring to? -NT - (jbrabeck) - (1) - April 2, 2003, 04:14:22 PM EST

Jack Nicholson -NT - (jake123) - April 2, 2003, 04:17:05 PM EST

Quit worrying..... - (Mike) - (2) - April 2, 2003, 05:11:01 PM EST

Right. - (jake123) - (1) - April 2, 2003, 05:21:42 PM EST

Oh you bitch! <sniff> - (Mike) - April 3, 2003, 12:06:05 AM EST

Huh? - (jbrabeck) - (7) - April 2, 2003, 04:26:50 PM EST

If I understand you right - (Mike) - (6) - April 2, 2003, 05:00:36 PM EST

Perhaps we shouldn't have funded and trained bin Laden. - (mmoffitt) - April 2, 2003, 05:17:35 PM EST

False analogy - (jake123) - (4) - April 2, 2003, 05:19:54 PM EST

"Or even New York City and the Gambino family." - (Brandioch) - April 2, 2003, 06:28:05 PM EST

What analogy? - (Mike) - (2) - April 3, 2003, 12:46:33 AM EST

Re: What analogy? - (jake123) - (1) - April 3, 2003, 01:59:49 AM EST

Thoughts - (Mike) - April 3, 2003, 12:29:52 PM EST

Whoa... - (jbrabeck) - (27) - April 2, 2003, 01:18:43 PM EST

Well said. But I differ even with you. - (mmoffitt) - (26) - April 2, 2003, 02:00:13 PM EST

FYI - (Mike) - (10) - April 2, 2003, 03:04:16 PM EST

Thanks Mike. - (jbrabeck) - April 2, 2003, 03:12:55 PM EST

Ever heard of Mandela? King? Gandhi? - (mmoffitt) - (8) - April 2, 2003, 05:22:09 PM EST

LOL - (Mike) - (7) - April 3, 2003, 03:50:03 PM EST

Pap again. - (mmoffitt) - (6) - April 3, 2003, 08:02:47 PM EST

Nice dodge. Addressing 5% of the post :-) -NT - (Mike) - (5) - April 4, 2003, 11:56:27 AM EST

That's what happens. - (mmoffitt) - (4) - April 4, 2003, 12:03:46 PM EST

And funnily enough........ - (Mike) - (3) - April 4, 2003, 02:06:03 PM EST

Are you really that thick? - (mmoffitt) - (2) - April 4, 2003, 02:50:29 PM EST

The last word is yours (and thankyou :-) ) - (Mike) - (1) - April 4, 2003, 03:19:08 PM EST

Just one more thing, sorry ;-) - (mmoffitt) - April 4, 2003, 05:04:43 PM EST

They volunteered, remember - (jbrabeck) - April 2, 2003, 03:10:35 PM EST

Hmmm... - (folkert) - (13) - April 2, 2003, 04:47:05 PM EST

Not quite - (jbrabeck) - (12) - April 2, 2003, 03:30:07 PM EST

Yep - (Silverlock) - April 2, 2003, 03:42:31 PM EST

Have we moved on? If not........ - (Mike) - (9) - April 2, 2003, 04:02:08 PM EST

Here's a question - (jake123) - (6) - April 2, 2003, 04:04:20 PM EST

I want to say..... - (Mike) - (2) - April 2, 2003, 04:08:33 PM EST

Legal -Illegal - (jbrabeck) - (1) - April 2, 2003, 04:13:18 PM EST

I think we're on the same page -NT - (Mike) - April 2, 2003, 04:14:50 PM EST

Wondered that myself. - (admin) - April 2, 2003, 04:09:39 PM EST

Someone has to resupply the front lines... - (jbrabeck) - (1) - April 2, 2003, 04:10:41 PM EST

That's pretty much directly where that question takes you - (jake123) - April 2, 2003, 04:16:34 PM EST

Start at the beginning of the thread... - (jbrabeck) - (1) - April 2, 2003, 04:07:06 PM EST

All I was saying was.... - (Mike) - April 2, 2003, 04:14:14 PM EST

Oops... Will edit to be Correct... - (folkert) - April 2, 2003, 04:42:27 PM EST

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