Here's a free clue: don't bet your savings on that.

Post #93,660 by Brandioch 4/1/03 11:21:10 PM Reply	Here's a free clue: don't bet your savings on that. As far as needless killing does it make a difference if a baath party dog kills civilians or US troops, they would die anyway by atrocity for the grins and giggles of the sadaamites. Check Afghanistan. While a brutal dictatorship does have its flaws, it is still better than warlordism or civil war. We don't even have a PLAN for helping these people build a better life for themselves. All we have is the belief that they'll be happier serving us than they were under their old regime. Is their life any worse under the invasion? Short time yes. Well, at least you aren't TOTALLY clueless. Long term it might make a huge difference. Then again, it might not. And on the other hand, it might make their lives even worse. Dont want to support American men and women who think they are fight for truth justice and the american way? And now turn that around a bit. Would you support Norman in his idiotic fantasies? I don't care WHAT some idiot THINKS they're fighting for. Wasn't that what got us into Afghanistan? Some idiots who THOUGHT they were fighting for their version of truth and justice (not the American Way). Then support them for doing their jobs efficiently like the garbagemen sewer workers and corrections officers who without our lifes would be more miserable than they already are, thanx. So those Iraqi civilians are "garbage" or "sewage"? Why not take 10% of the cost of this war (about $7.5 BILLION) and spend it on helping the people who WANT to help their people? Why haven't we helped the Kurds establish a proto-Democracy in all those years we've been "protecting" them from Saddam? Why haven't we even bothered to educate the average Iraqi on WHY his government sucks so much and what OPTIONS he has. This isn't about helping the Iraqis. This is about Bush using our military so we can control the oil in Iraq.
Post #93,662 by boxley 4/1/03 11:45:11 PM Reply	heres a free clue Our servicemenand women in Iraq did not ask to be there. If you dont want to support them because thaey are idealists, support them as you would garbagemen. So you do not support garbage collectors? Do you leave nothing behind? you dont take dumps? or do you think it doesnt smell so you take your dumps in the street and let the rain disolve it. I did not in anyway equate the iraqi people with certain occupations I equated the service being done to the government of america by its personnel. If you want to educate the Iraqi people by all means go there and do so. Let us know how you make out. thanx, bill will work for cash and other incentives [link\|http://home.tampabay.rr.com/boxley/resume/Resume.html\|skill set] questions, help? [link\|mailto:pappas@catholic.org\|email pappas at catholic.org] Since corporations are the equivelent of human but they have no "concience" they are by definition sociopaths
Post #93,770 by Brandioch 4/2/03 1:12:50 PM Reply	"...support them as you would garbagemen." I do. You should see what I'd do if our current regime decided to put $75 BILLION into waste disposal for no justifiable reason. So you do not support garbage collectors? I pay them to take the trash that I put out. Do I "support" them in other ways? No. I did not in anyway equate the iraqi people with certain occupations I equated the service being done to the government of america by its personnel. Garbagemen remove garbage. If you want to equate the military to garbagemen, then SOMEONE is going to be the garbage. Right now it looks like someone's throwing away some civilians.

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