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Post #53,898 by Andrew Grygus 9/30/02 12:58:23 AM Reply	I presume . . . . you did your Klez.H check using a DOS based Klez tool after a fresh boot into Safe Mode. I've cleand Klez.H out of dozens of machines who's owners "Update my antivirus almost every day". By time Klez.H fixes were out, much of the world was infected, and updating your antivirus after the fact is futile - Klez.H nails it instantly - it looks like it's running, but it's just spinning of wheels. I use the Command Software Klez cleaner (but others should work). I copy the compressed file to the hard disk and immediately reboot into Safe Mode, uncompress and run the cleaner immediately. To be quite frank, since May, I've found only one Windows computer that's used to read email that didn't have Klez.H / Elkern.C. MS Office users average about 84 infections, WordPerfect users 33. Top number 340, lowest 16. The combo of Klez.H and Magistr is particularly annoying, as they protect each other (probably unplanned). I usually have to clean those from a DOS boot with an up-to-date DOS cleaner - and, presuming they haven't cleaned up their "Temporary Internet Files" for six months, it can take hours (no disk cache). I have had a few cases where Klez.H was cleaned, and an up-to-date antivirus reinstalled after clean, but Klez.H reoccurred. Fortunately these are quite rare. I'm not saying your problem is Klez.H, just cautioning that it's a tough one to pin down unless you use exactly the right procedure. [link\|http://www.aaxnet.com\|AAx]
Post #53,905 by deSitter 9/30/02 4:52:11 AM Reply	Re: I presume . . Somehow I've missed it. Why do I always miss the fun? :) -drl
Post #53,911 by orion 9/30/02 6:38:13 AM Reply	What fun? Nobody seems to get my jokes either, that is what I get for trying to be funny. *[link\|http://games.speakeasy.net/data/files/khan.jpg\|"Khan!!!" -Kirk]*
Post #53,915 by ben_tilly 9/30/02 7:55:07 AM 9/30/02 7:56:48 AM Reply	Actually you likely didn't miss it The fun thing about Klez is that it leaves very few telltales for the person with it that they are the one sending out the mail. Lots of people have it and don't notice. Which is one of the reasons why it hasn't been slacking off. cheers, Ben "Career politicians are inherently untrustworthy; if it spends its life buzzing around the outhouse, it\ufffds probably a fly." - [link\|http://www.nationalinterest.org/issues/58/Mead.html\|Walter Mead] Edited by ben_tilly Sept. 30, 2002, 07:56:48 AM EDT Expand All History
Post #53,957 by deSitter 9/30/02 12:04:02 PM Reply	Re: Actually you likely didn't miss it I run that Symantec safe-mode tool from time to time and have never had a report of it. I have no virus protection, because it is useless. -drl
Post #53,912 by orion 9/30/02 6:44:59 AM Reply	Re: I presume . . I used the Symantec tool, apparently it was the Windows version and ran a GUI interface window as it processed the files on the hard drive. If there is a DOS version of it, please kindly point me to it. Anything to get rid of whatever is causing this thing. You know, you pay like $70USD for the Norton AntiVirus 2003 Pro software and you'd think that it would come with a DOS based scanner that can scan before the GUI of the OS loads. Why I remember way way back when that was the case. Perhaps I missed a configuration option? BTW any Open Sourced Virus scanners that don't charge you money for a year's worth of AntiVirus data file updates? Nothing like getting soaked for virus protection and updates when the newer ones start getting out. *[link\|http://games.speakeasy.net/data/files/khan.jpg\|"Khan!!!" -Kirk]*
Post #53,961 by jake123 9/30/02 12:13:48 PM Reply	Stop using windows It's the only way to be sure you're not going to get that stuff. It's not like alternative systems don't have good software... they do, and there are several viable choices you can make. -- ------------------------------------------------------------------- * Jack Troughton jake at consultron.ca * * [link\|http://consultron.ca \|[link\|http://consultron.ca\|http://consultron.ca] ] irc.ecomstation.ca * * Laval Qu\ufffdbec Canada [link\|news://news.consultron.ca\|news://news.consultron.ca] * -------------------------------------------------------------------
Post #54,800 by orion 10/3/02 10:01:45 PM Reply	I know but Windows is my bread and butter right now, it gets me a job. Linux, OS/2, DR-DOS, etc just don't seem to get me hired. *[link\|http://games.speakeasy.net/data/files/khan.jpg\|"Khan!!!" -Kirk]*
Post #53,964 by Andrew Grygus 9/30/02 12:35:28 PM Reply	We use Command antivirus . . . . $24/year download. Once installed on a machine, it can make a set of three floppies runable from DOS. I just copy them all to a directory on the Service CD-ROM I carry, and run it from there, or copy it to the subject hard disk and run it from there. Of course, you have to have a DOS 7 boot floppy. Some machines get so badly virus infected you just can't install and/or run an antivirus under Windows. [link\|http://www.aaxnet.com\|AAx]

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