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Post #4,873 by drewk 8/13/01 1:15:50 PM Reply	Wow, and you say that's not a straw man Clinton seeks to help uninsured. Republicans seek to stop such help for the uninsured. By "help uninsured" do you mean the Universal Health Care part of the Clinton Health Plan that went to Congress? Because there were quite a few other things covered in that package. And even that part wasn't universally supported. There are still arguments raging over the effectivenss of the Canadian style of socialized medicine, so I don't think nationalized health care is a clear winner. But even if a particular congressperson supported the particular form of Universal Health Care codified in the Clinton Health Plan, there could still be critical flaws in other parts of it that would cause the congressperson to vote against the package. I guess I'd be tilting at windmills to even bring up the concept of a poison pill. This is my sig. There are many like it, but this one is mine.
Post #4,881 by jb4 8/13/01 2:17:24 PM Reply	Re: Wow, and you say that's not a straw man There are still arguments raging over the effectivenss of the Canadian style of socialized medicine[...] Boy, I'll say! One such aspect of this debate is the "effectiveness" of having Canadians paying something like 1/8th of the cost for a given prescription medication as Merkins do. I suppose that debate would be between the large 3 or so multinational pharmaceutical producers, and ...consumers? jb4 (Resistance is not futile...)
Post #4,891 by drewk 8/13/01 3:21:32 PM Reply	No, it'd be ... From the people who have to wait until some bureaucrat decides you're "sick enough" for the procedure. Unless you're wealthy enough to just come to the U.S. and pay to have it done. But then socialized medicine would seem to be good enough only for those who can't afford to make their own decisions, which seems pretty much like non-socialized medicine anyway. This is my sig. There are many like it, but this one is mine.

Tom Tomorrow's Left Wing Wacko Test - are you Man Enough? - (Ashton) - (70) - Aug. 8, 2001, 05:42:53 AM EDT

That is the correct way of using the word - (boxley) - (69) - Aug. 8, 2001, 08:29:24 AM EDT

Most enlightening, thank you. - (warmachine) - (67) - Aug. 8, 2001, 09:40:24 AM EDT

But heaven help you if you propose... - (bepatient) - (65) - Aug. 8, 2001, 11:37:47 AM EDT

What's stopping you - (DonRichards) - (62) - Aug. 8, 2001, 11:45:14 AM EDT

I do... - (bepatient) - (61) - Aug. 8, 2001, 11:48:37 AM EDT

And that's the crux of the problem... - (addison) - (13) - Aug. 8, 2001, 11:55:05 AM EDT

It is an issue...and a better example - (bepatient) - (12) - Aug. 8, 2001, 12:06:49 PM EDT

Let me get this straight - (mhuber) - (10) - Aug. 8, 2001, 12:57:54 PM EDT

Reading is fun...damental - (bepatient) - (9) - Aug. 8, 2001, 03:32:25 PM EDT

OK, I'll try again: - (mhuber) - (8) - Aug. 8, 2001, 03:59:21 PM EDT

ok...lets see... - (bepatient) - (7) - Aug. 8, 2001, 04:06:52 PM EDT

Who is this "they" you keep referencing? - (DonRichards) - (3) - Aug. 8, 2001, 04:31:23 PM EDT

Ah...the innocent... - (bepatient) - (2) - Aug. 8, 2001, 04:49:27 PM EDT

Point taken - (DonRichards) - (1) - Aug. 8, 2001, 04:54:26 PM EDT

bada bing! - (boxley) - Aug. 8, 2001, 08:42:31 PM EDT

No, I honestly don't - (mhuber) - (2) - Aug. 8, 2001, 05:18:50 PM EDT

No...its not "usual"... - (bepatient) - (1) - Aug. 8, 2001, 07:12:18 PM EDT

You are a victim of your times... for now - (screamer) - Aug. 9, 2001, 11:46:16 AM EDT

DoE(ddication) - (addison) - Aug. 8, 2001, 01:56:03 PM EDT

That's the problem, isn't it? - (DonRichards) - (46) - Aug. 8, 2001, 11:59:19 AM EDT

I think you missed something... - (screamer) - (45) - Aug. 8, 2001, 12:33:54 PM EDT

Really? - (Brandioch) - (44) - Aug. 8, 2001, 01:45:00 PM EDT

Really... Notice the selective memory now? - (screamer) - (34) - Aug. 8, 2001, 02:22:33 PM EDT

Really? - (Brandioch) - (32) - Aug. 8, 2001, 05:09:37 PM EDT

Really - (screamer) - (31) - Aug. 8, 2001, 06:24:48 PM EDT

Really. - (Brandioch) - (30) - Aug. 9, 2001, 08:17:09 AM EDT

C'mon now... - (bepatient) - (25) - Aug. 9, 2001, 11:24:38 AM EDT

Well, you're right on one thing. - (Brandioch) - (24) - Aug. 9, 2001, 12:44:13 PM EDT

There is no argument so dubious - (wharris2) - Aug. 9, 2001, 12:53:02 PM EDT

Well thats my point - (bepatient) - (22) - Aug. 9, 2001, 03:03:56 PM EDT

Not that I want to get involved..but a timeline - (Simon_Jester) - (1) - Aug. 9, 2001, 03:37:18 PM EDT

Heh, amidst the noise (then).. - (Ashton) - Aug. 9, 2001, 07:25:03 PM EDT

And the Republican's alternative was? - (Brandioch) - (19) - Aug. 9, 2001, 04:49:53 PM EDT

So doing something stupid is better than doing nothing? -NT - (Fearless Freep) - (18) - Aug. 9, 2001, 04:54:20 PM EDT

Unclear your referent - - (Ashton) - Aug. 9, 2001, 07:41:12 PM EDT

If I may quote Bill. - (Brandioch) - (16) - Aug. 9, 2001, 07:48:59 PM EDT

Earth to Brandioch - (bepatient) - (10) - Aug. 9, 2001, 10:47:19 PM EDT

Earth here, send transmission. - (Brandioch) - (9) - Aug. 10, 2001, 04:31:37 PM EDT

I did...your decoder ring is set to the wrong frequency. - (bepatient) - (8) - Aug. 11, 2001, 12:46:17 AM EDT

Message decoded. - (Brandioch) - (7) - Aug. 11, 2001, 12:40:19 PM EDT

Unfair.. - (Ashton) - Aug. 11, 2001, 06:15:44 PM EDT

look up -NT - (bepatient) - (2) - Aug. 11, 2001, 06:21:27 PM EDT

I see.... - (Brandioch) - (1) - Aug. 11, 2001, 07:13:19 PM EDT

block grants for welfare to the communities - (boxley) - Aug. 11, 2001, 09:00:58 PM EDT

Wow, and you say that's not a straw man - (drewk) - (2) - Aug. 13, 2001, 01:15:50 PM EDT

Re: Wow, and you say that's not a straw man - (jb4) - (1) - Aug. 13, 2001, 02:17:24 PM EDT

No, it'd be ... - (drewk) - Aug. 13, 2001, 03:21:32 PM EDT

Red Herring - (Fearless Freep) - (4) - Aug. 10, 2001, 12:01:26 PM EDT

Red Herring part 2 - (wharris2) - (2) - Aug. 10, 2001, 12:03:52 PM EDT

Hmm...behind closed doors.... - (Simon_Jester) - Aug. 10, 2001, 12:08:37 PM EDT

Doesn't bother me too much in this case... - (Fearless Freep) - Aug. 10, 2001, 12:13:56 PM EDT

Narrowing the focus. - (Brandioch) - Aug. 10, 2001, 06:13:15 PM EDT

swung left and had scabs on it :) -NT - (boxley) - Aug. 9, 2001, 12:18:43 PM EDT

Watch out now, you may just get this moved to - (screamer) - (1) - Aug. 9, 2001, 01:51:21 PM EDT

And the part you're skipping over..... - (Brandioch) - Aug. 9, 2001, 08:14:13 PM EDT

and by the way... Really. ;-> -NT - (screamer) - Aug. 9, 2001, 02:02:24 PM EDT

My memory is not selective in this case - (ben_tilly) - Aug. 9, 2001, 07:44:23 PM EDT

Oh please.... - (bepatient) - Aug. 8, 2001, 03:34:07 PM EDT

Now what was it that whacked this thread? - (wharris2) - (7) - Aug. 9, 2001, 12:19:49 PM EDT

Bill Oxley's Aleut browser again, or mine: Admin? - (Ashton) - (6) - Aug. 9, 2001, 08:07:18 PM EDT

That's not what "Show One Only" means - (admin) - (5) - Aug. 9, 2001, 08:14:48 PM EDT

No, I don't need to reword it. - (admin) - Aug. 9, 2001, 08:18:54 PM EDT

That's what I thought it meant: - (Ashton) - (3) - Aug. 9, 2001, 08:26:48 PM EDT

Yes, Show One Comment Only is in comment view only - (admin) - (2) - Aug. 9, 2001, 08:50:08 PM EDT

WebWasher filter! Again - as with login. - (Ashton) - (1) - Aug. 9, 2001, 10:06:31 PM EDT

Hmm, sounds like a cache issue or something. - (admin) - Aug. 9, 2001, 10:10:51 PM EDT

Just send them checks to me. - (Brandioch) - Aug. 8, 2001, 01:40:06 PM EDT

Got sources for that claim? - (kelzer) - Aug. 8, 2001, 02:25:47 PM EDT

On "compassion" and getting older... - (screamer) - Aug. 8, 2001, 01:41:25 PM EDT

Hey Bill - can ya keep yer margins a bit smaller L/R? - (Ashton) - Aug. 8, 2001, 04:46:23 PM EDT

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