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Post #415,428
by mmoffitt
11/11/16 3:24:02 PM
11/11/16 3:24:02 PM
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New What the heck could he have done that he didn't?
She was a reprehensible candidate. That's on her and her supporters (see here, for example: http://forum.iwethey.org/forum/post/415424/ ). What exactly is it that you would have wished he'd done? Lie about her being a "change you can believe in" candidate instead of a status quo politician who had to be beaten into supporting weakened down Progressive policies in the Party Platform (not that many believed she'd do anything to pass that - particularly not after her choice of VP)?

Seriously man, what could he have done? She was a horrible, horrible candidate from a party that has embraced horrible, horrible ideas for the past 30 years. What was he to do about that?
bcnu,
Mikem

I think religion should be treated with ridicule, hatred and contempt. And I claim that right.
Christopher Hitchens.
Post #415,429
by Another Scott
11/11/16 3:47:03 PM
11/11/16 3:47:04 PM
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New He didn't do *everything*. He damaged her and the party. He should have done more.
Post #415,431
by mmoffitt
11/11/16 4:08:05 PM
11/11/16 4:08:51 PM
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New That's "Everything Possible".
So, again, WHAT did he not do that you expected from him? If campaigning for Her - including TELLING HIS SUPPORTERS TO VOTE FOR HER wasn't enough to satisfy you, what, if anything, would have been?
bcnu,
Mikem

I think religion should be treated with ridicule, hatred and contempt. And I claim that right.
Christopher Hitchens.
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Post #415,432
by Another Scott
11/11/16 5:15:20 PM
11/11/16 5:15:20 PM
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New The sitting President campaigned for her more than Bernie did.
I don't have the time to count the actual events, so I'll use Google as a proxy:

"Obama campaigns for Clinton" - 166,000 hits

"Sanders campaigns for Clinton" - 26,700 hits

"Obama rally for Clinton" - 11,800 hits

"Sanders rally for Clinton" - 3,210 hits

You think Bernie had more constraints on his time than Obama? You think Bernie did "everything" he could to make sure Trump lost and Hillary won?

HTH.

Cheers,
Scott.
Post #415,435
by boxley
11/11/16 7:16:51 PM
11/11/16 7:16:51 PM
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New trump rallying for clinton 82,400,000, did you have a point in there?
always look out for number one and don't step in number two
Post #415,442
by Another Scott
11/11/16 10:08:41 PM
11/11/16 10:08:41 PM
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New You have to put it in quotes if you want it to work. ;-)
58,200.

HTH.

Cheers,
Scott.
     daughter goes to cast her first ever vote - (boxley) - (52) - Nov. 8, 2016, 03:51:34 PM EST
         :-( Glad she voted. It's important. -NT - (Another Scott) - (50) - Nov. 8, 2016, 03:53:35 PM EST
             I have always taught my kids that voting is a right and a duty -NT - (boxley) - (49) - Nov. 8, 2016, 03:56:17 PM EST
                 Absolutely! I've voted in *every* Federal election since 1962. -NT - (a6l6e6x) - Nov. 8, 2016, 04:00:23 PM EST
                 Me 2. They both voted. - (mmoffitt) - (1) - Nov. 8, 2016, 04:13:51 PM EST
                     lie to em -NT - (boxley) - Nov. 8, 2016, 05:39:35 PM EST
                 Good. Indeed it is. :-) - (Another Scott) - (45) - Nov. 8, 2016, 05:01:56 PM EST
                     I wouldn't take any bets on that this morning. -NT - (mmoffitt) - (44) - Nov. 9, 2016, 08:19:23 AM EST
                         Yeah... - (Another Scott) - (43) - Nov. 9, 2016, 08:27:20 AM EST
                             We'll see if the Reichstag (er, Capitol) has a mysterious fire in February. :) -NT - (a6l6e6x) - Nov. 9, 2016, 09:54:47 AM EST
                             A lot of times, I wish I wasn't right about something. This is one of those times. -NT - (mmoffitt) - Nov. 9, 2016, 10:27:26 AM EST
                             no you dont have wishful thinking at all - (boxley) - (40) - Nov. 9, 2016, 10:39:42 AM EST
                                 You know that's not going to happen. - (Andrew Grygus) - (3) - Nov. 9, 2016, 11:44:43 AM EST
                                     They need a good dose of cynicism - (drook) - (2) - Nov. 9, 2016, 12:22:37 PM EST
                                         Re: Say whatever it takes to win - (a6l6e6x) - (1) - Nov. 9, 2016, 03:29:57 PM EST
                                             You don't have to overwhelm the BS detector - (drook) - Nov. 9, 2016, 06:23:49 PM EST
                                 Ok - Let's say the DNC is gone. What replaces it? - (Another Scott) - (35) - Nov. 9, 2016, 08:10:49 PM EST
                                     Eviscerate the DNC. Disqualify all the current careerists . . . - (Andrew Grygus) - (1) - Nov. 9, 2016, 08:56:24 PM EST
                                         this one ^ -NT - (boxley) - Nov. 10, 2016, 10:55:29 AM EST
                                     The DLC wasn't horrible? That's your White privilege speaking. - (mmoffitt) - (30) - Nov. 10, 2016, 08:44:37 AM EST
                                         Bill won. - (Another Scott) - (29) - Nov. 10, 2016, 04:39:54 PM EST
                                             Why did Jerry lose? Ron Brown had *a lot* to do with that. - (mmoffitt) - (28) - Nov. 11, 2016, 08:22:56 AM EST
                                                 I see we still can't agree on the basic facts, let alone the interpretation. - (Another Scott) - (27) - Nov. 11, 2016, 09:20:53 AM EST
                                                     ^^ that -NT - (pwhysall) - Nov. 11, 2016, 09:26:10 AM EST
                                                     Why do you continue to refuse to recognize the obvious? - (mmoffitt) - (25) - Nov. 11, 2016, 09:47:42 AM EST
                                                         Sore Loserman says he was Right. Film at 11. - (Another Scott) - (18) - Nov. 11, 2016, 10:53:45 AM EST
                                                             That's disappointing. - (mmoffitt) - Nov. 11, 2016, 11:08:38 AM EST
                                                             OTOH, with the tremendous drag at the top of the ticket, ... - (mmoffitt) - (16) - Nov. 11, 2016, 11:38:46 AM EST
                                                                 Yeah, they supported ~ 6 House Democrats who won. Feel the Power of the Bern. :-/ -NT - (Another Scott) - (15) - Nov. 11, 2016, 11:45:09 AM EST
                                                                     When you're rebuilding a political party, you've got to start somewhere, Sport. ;0) -NT - (mmoffitt) - (14) - Nov. 11, 2016, 12:17:34 PM EST
                                                                         Re: When you're rebuilding a political party, you've got to start somewhere, Sport. ;0) - (Another Scott) - (13) - Nov. 11, 2016, 12:27:51 PM EST
                                                                             Um, you do know he campaigned for Her in 12 states, right? -NT - (mmoffitt) - (12) - Nov. 11, 2016, 01:15:14 PM EST
                                                                                 So what. That's *everything*? - (Another Scott) - (11) - Nov. 11, 2016, 03:15:20 PM EST
                                                                                     What the heck could he have done that he didn't? - (mmoffitt) - (5) - Nov. 11, 2016, 03:24:02 PM EST
                                                                                         He didn't do *everything*. He damaged her and the party. He should have done more. -NT - (Another Scott) - (4) - Nov. 11, 2016, 03:47:04 PM EST
                                                                                             That's "Everything Possible". - (mmoffitt) - (3) - Nov. 11, 2016, 04:08:51 PM EST
                                                                                                 The sitting President campaigned for her more than Bernie did. - (Another Scott) - (2) - Nov. 11, 2016, 05:15:20 PM EST
                                                                                                     trump rallying for clinton 82,400,000, did you have a point in there? -NT - (boxley) - (1) - Nov. 11, 2016, 07:16:51 PM EST
                                                                                                         You have to put it in quotes if you want it to work. ;-) - (Another Scott) - Nov. 11, 2016, 10:08:41 PM EST
                                                                                     well she is, he didnt want to be lying to the people -NT - (boxley) - (4) - Nov. 11, 2016, 07:14:32 PM EST
                                                                                         Then why did he say he'd campaign and wok to elect her? Can't have it both ways. -NT - (Another Scott) - (3) - Nov. 11, 2016, 10:06:42 PM EST
                                                                                             Well, maybe, MAYBE she shouldn't have insulted his supporters. - (mmoffitt) - (2) - Nov. 15, 2016, 06:01:51 PM EST
                                                                                                 I think Lincoln Chafee would have done worse. ;-p -NT - (Another Scott) - (1) - Nov. 15, 2016, 06:23:57 PM EST
                                                                                                     nope because I would have voted for him -NT - (boxley) - Nov. 15, 2016, 08:11:13 PM EST
                                                         She didn't call the working class deplorables. Why do you believe that? -NT - (drook) - (5) - Nov. 11, 2016, 11:55:19 AM EST
                                                             You're going to defend what she said? *BOGGLE* - (mmoffitt) - (4) - Nov. 11, 2016, 12:15:31 PM EST
                                                                 The KKK were supporting Trump. Should she not call them deplorable? - (drook) - (3) - Nov. 11, 2016, 12:24:12 PM EST
                                                                     Re: The KKK were supporting Trump. Should she not call them deplorable? - (mmoffitt) - Nov. 11, 2016, 02:10:55 PM EST
                                                                     Re: The KKK were split on their support. many supported clinton - (boxley) - (1) - Nov. 11, 2016, 07:18:53 PM EST
                                                                         Yes, exactly that - (drook) - Nov. 11, 2016, 09:39:05 PM EST
                                     Jonathan Tasini's thoughts. - (mmoffitt) - (1) - Nov. 10, 2016, 10:13:30 AM EST
                                         Seems a pretty objective wish-list of basic fixes.. - (Ashton) - Nov. 15, 2016, 07:19:21 AM EST
         People are assholes - (malraux) - Nov. 8, 2016, 04:52:14 PM EST

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