You're just using many of their talking points.

Post #306,617 by Another Scott 4/2/09 4:10:21 PM Reply	You're just using many of their talking points. I'm the one that mentioned the R word. *...I believe someone here said that because I live in FL, a non-income taxing state I should somehow feel like I'm "getting one over" on the tax man.* No, I simply asked if you, personally, felt like you were over-taxed. Lots of places have high sales tax, tolls, and state income taxes. You haven't directly answered that, but I infer that you think you're paying too much, or at least on the top half of fair. I don't think I'm paying too much, myself. I don't disagree that we need strong oversight of where the money is going, and I don't disagree that some of the federal money is wasted, and I don't disagree that the US spends money on things that it shouldn't. Life isn't perfect. Life could be better. But government is a human institution, not something constructed by Aristotle. The question for me is, is Obama turning the tax system in a direction that is more compatible with my view of a better system, or not? I think the answer is yes, he is. I take it you feel that he isn't. Those who say that Obama is going to raise "everyone's taxes" needs to point to specific legislative proposals that Obama puts forward or signs to convince me. YMMV. FYI, SCHIP (recently signed by Obama) was funded by tobacco taxes since at least 1996. Expanded SCHIP coverage would logically be funded by increased tobacco taxes. http://en.wikipedia....Insurance_Program I think SCHIP is a program worth paying for, myself. Spinning (by others, but you're coming close ;-) increased tobacco taxes as a sign that Obama is going to raise "everyone's taxes" doesn't work with me. I think I'm done. You can have the last word. Cheers, Scott.
Post #306,621 by boxley 4/2/09 4:53:21 PM Reply	I take it you dont smoke "Expanded SCHIP coverage would logically be funded by increased tobacco taxes" "I don't think I'm paying too much, myself. " so you want the program and prefer that someone else bears the cost, no wonder you like the Obama tax plan steal from the other guy and pass the savings on to you a better idea would be to expand the medic taxes they already deduct from everyone to cover SCHIP
Post #306,623 by Another Scott 4/2/09 5:05:13 PM Reply	Nope. I tried it once when I was about 6. That was enough for me. *so you want the program and prefer that someone else bears the cost, no wonder you like the Obama tax plan steal from the other guy and pass the savings on to you* Heh. I don't have any kids either, so SCHIP doesn't affect me personally. It affects society, though, so that affects me. *a better idea would be to expand the medic taxes they already deduct from everyone to cover SCHIP* Maybe. I have no problem with tobacco taxes, myself. If people want to smoke or chew or sniff tobacco, they should be willing to pay part of the price for the damage it does to society. Whether SCHIP should be partially/mostly/exclusively funded by tobacco taxes is certainly debatable. Presumably if the taxes are draconian enough then eventually there will be too little money coming in to fund SCHIP. As I said, I think SCHIP is a good program that should be funded. I personally have no qualms with paying for it another way. I like Obama's tax plan because I think that we pay for government expenditures, one way or another. Directly paying for them through high-enough taxes makes more sense to me than paying for them through inflation or excessive interest rates or the other alternatives that damage society as a whole. The upper income portion of our society is much better able to pay higher taxes than the bottom half or two-thirds. HTH. Cheers, Scott.

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