The inheritance tax doesn't do that

Post #306,724 by drook 4/3/09 3:32:32 PM Reply	The inheritance tax doesn't do that Pretending it does isn't honest debate. It's a talking point. -- Drew
Post #306,726 by boxley 4/3/09 3:38:56 PM Reply	so the state only seizes 45% difference in degree only in britain the confiscation rate was at 90% plus just a few years ago. Its exactly the same thing, the state confiscating income that has already been taxed thanx, bill
Post #306,730 by drook 4/3/09 4:24:01 PM Reply	So 0.5% would also difference in degree only? "Some" "half" "most" and "all" are not just differences in degree. Second point, I pay state income tax. Doesn't that make state sales tax "confiscating income that has already been taxed"? Why does that suddenly become unacceptable when it's inheritance tax? -- Drew
Post #306,733 by boxley 4/3/09 5:35:42 PM Reply	so one only rents money from the state? after you have lived your life you need to turn it back in? Nice world you want to live in. Never owning anything, le stat uber alles no thanx, bill
Post #306,734 by drook 4/3/09 5:47:18 PM Reply	I'll take a page from Beep's playbook for this one I never said I wanted anything. I just asked some questions about the alternatives. Can't accuse me of having a position here. -- Drew
Post #306,735 by boxley 4/3/09 6:05:12 PM Reply	:-) you said complaining about said tax was recent I was merely pointing out that it has been bitched about since government was invented
Post #306,737 by beepster 4/3/09 7:09:08 PM Reply	bing bing bing I will choose a path that's clear. I will choose freewill.
Post #306,739 by drook 4/3/09 7:26:02 PM Reply	No, I said calling it a "death tax" was recent That's what language murder does. It's done intentionally to ensure even reasonable questions can't be asked. -- Drew
Post #306,755 by Ashton 4/4/09 4:52:15 AM Reply	Exactly. The whole aim of practical politics is to keep the populace alarmed (and hence clamorous to be led to safety) by menacing it with an endless series of hobgoblins, all of them imaginary. -- H.L. Mencken
Post #306,762 by boxley 4/4/09 8:25:07 AM Reply	sure it is http://www.heritage..../taxes/bg1719.cfm the language murder is calling them estate taxes, death is when they are imposed Estate taxes are not a new phenomenon; they date back almost three thousand years. As early as 700 B.C., there appears to have been a 10 percent tax on the transfer of property at death in Egypt.1 In the first century A.D., Augustus Caesar imposed a tax on successions and legacies to all but close relatives. Transfer taxes during the Middle Ages grew out of the fact that the sovereign or the state owned all assets. Although the king owned all real property in feudal England, he would grant its use to certain individuals during their lifetimes. When they died, the king would let the estate retain the property upon payment of an estate tax. In the United States, the tradition of taxing assets at death began with the Stamp Act of 1797. While the first Stamp Act on tea helped precipitate the Revolutionary War, the second was far less dramatic. Revenues from requiring a federal stamp on wills in probate were used to pay off debts incurred during the undeclared naval war with France in 1794. Congress repealed the Stamp Act in 1802. apparently you may be more medieval than you appear "Transfer taxes during the Middle Ages grew out of the fact that the sovereign or the state owned all assets"
Post #306,764 by Another Scott 4/4/09 9:20:18 AM Reply	Don't be intentionally dense. It's unbecoming. http://en.wikipedia...._Tax.22_neologism The political use of "death tax" as a synonym for "estate tax" was popularized in the Gingrich period by Jack Faris of the National Federation of Independent Business. [25] It has been widely but inaccurately attributed to Republican pollster Frank Luntz. In a memo, Luntz wrote that the term "death tax" "kindled voter resentment in a way that 'inheritance tax' and 'estate tax' do not" [26]. Linguist George Lakoff alleges the phrase is a deliberate and carefully calculated neologism which is used as a propaganda tactic to aid in the repeal of estate taxes. However the use of "death tax" rather than "estate tax" in the wording of questions in the 2002 National Election Survey increased support for estate tax repeal by only a few percentage points.[27] FWIW. Cheers, Scott.
Post #306,776 by boxley 4/4/09 2:24:55 PM Reply	I have heard the term death tax since I was a kid fookin death taxes, the earl has to rent out his bedroom to pay the fooking things My father and his friends socialists to communist all of them disliked the death tax. Sorry you all havnt heard the term till recently. It was a much bigger issue for the deepee generation
Post #306,781 by Another Scott 4/4/09 2:42:59 PM Reply	Ok.
Post #306,785 by Ashton 4/4/09 5:35:38 PM Reply	Waddaya 'spect in a place where Cholmondeley is pronounced 'Chumley'? (And That.. is the Toffs talkin) ..further down the ladder -
Post #306,788 by boxley 4/4/09 6:02:45 PM Reply	we had "glagow" eddie burns, frank the hunky the strine and a few assorted others (including undercovers during the strikes no doubt)

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