Re: My wife's mother was 42 when she was born in 1961.

Post #220,056 by pwhysall 8/18/05 11:32:34 PM Reply	Re: My wife's mother was 42 when she was born in 1961. Aging parents is really hard on children. I'm at the other end of the scale; I'll be 38 when my son is 18, and I'm really glad it worked out that way. Peter [link\|http://www.ubuntulinux.org\|Ubuntu Linux] [link\|http://www.kuro5hin.org\|There is no K5 Cabal] [link\|http://guildenstern.dyndns.org\|Home] Use P2P for legitimate purposes!
Post #220,057 by imqwerky 8/18/05 11:35:05 PM Reply	They ain't called "tax deductions" for nothin' :) Just thought I'd point out that while you do have to spend money on the little buggers, at least you end up with a tax refund in April. And, even though you are looking at the expense of childcare, that too is deductible. FWIW, Amy "The notion of limited government and frugal government has been shattered by this administration, which cares far less about limited government than it does in building conservative government - a government with huge payoffs to corporate America," Allan Lichtman, a presidential historian at American University in Washington.
Post #220,058 by pwhysall 8/18/05 11:39:22 PM Reply	Not in the UK, you don't. Peter [link\|http://www.ubuntulinux.org\|Ubuntu Linux] [link\|http://www.kuro5hin.org\|There is no K5 Cabal] [link\|http://guildenstern.dyndns.org\|Home] Use P2P for legitimate purposes!
Post #220,067 by imqwerky 8/18/05 11:51:00 PM Reply	Sux 2BU :-D "The notion of limited government and frugal government has been shattered by this administration, which cares far less about limited government than it does in building conservative government - a government with huge payoffs to corporate America," Allan Lichtman, a presidential historian at American University in Washington.
Post #220,061 by Another Scott 8/18/05 11:42:43 PM Reply	Yup. I went to high school with a guy who got his girlfriend pregnant, and married her, before he graduated. I'm sure it was hard on them early on, but I'll bet they were very glad their offspring was out of the house by the time they were 35. Physically, we're much better equipped to handle the stress of raising children when we're younger. (Usually not financially and often not emotionally though.) In my wife's case, she was always worried about her parents dying, even when she was a little girl. "They were always so old!" Her father was over 60 when she graduated from high school.... There's also the example of the fellow at work who adopted a young child when he was about 55. Although I applaud him for wanting to help raise a child in need, I also really wonder about his thought processes... Cheers, Scott.
Post #220,066 by pwhysall 8/18/05 11:48:17 PM Reply	Teenagers shouldn't have to care for their parents, imho When the hormones are raging, you're trying to pass your exams and the whole world is agin ye, the very last thing on earth you need is parents who need caring for. While I can see why people do leave it late to have children (financial security, etc) I'm half-inclined to think that's a selfish attitude. Peter [link\|http://www.ubuntulinux.org\|Ubuntu Linux] [link\|http://www.kuro5hin.org\|There is no K5 Cabal] [link\|http://guildenstern.dyndns.org\|Home] Use P2P for legitimate purposes!
Post #220,069 by Another Scott 8/19/05 12:09:08 AM Reply	People are living too long. I think our bodies evolved very well for a species that lived to ~ 40 years of age. 1) Born. 2) If you survive the childhood diseases, etc., you've got it made! 3) Hormones kick in. WooHoo! Fun times! 4) You have your children at 18-22 years old. 5) Raise kids, impress rivals with strength and cunning. 6) Kids start to grow up, help with chores, help protect the homestead. 7) Kid notices unattached beauty down the road. They get hitched. 8) Kids turn 18, just in time for them to take over running the homestead. 9) You enjoy your golden year or two, wander off into the woods, and get eaten by a bear. 10) The end. If doesn't make sense for kids to have hormones running at 11 for a few years, have to wait a few more years to be able to start their adult life and to be able to support their offspring, then live another 50-70 years. We should have shorter life expectancies or the mating instinct should come later. But as it is, [link\|http://pediatrics.aappublications.org/cgi/content/full/108/2/347\|girls are maturing earlier] than they were years ago. Things are heading the wrong way on both ends. We're going to have to start fighting (or changing) our biology on a major scale, or society is going to have to change in major ways, because otherwise there are going to be too many children raising children. The missus and I have always felt that we didn't want children. There is the little issue about what we'll do in our "golden years".... I've joked with her that we can adopt some 17 year old kids when we're ready to retire. "Hey missy and sonny, take care of us and you'll get a nice reward!" :-/ Cheers, Scott.
Post #220,079 by boxley 8/19/05 7:57:34 AM Reply	lrpd 1-10 please "the reason people don't buy conspiracy theories is that they think conspiracy means everyone is on the same program. Thats not how it works. Everybody has a different program. They just all want the same guy dead. Socrates was a gadfly, but I bet he took time out to screw somebodies wife" Gus Vitelli Any opinions expressed by me are mine alone, posted from my home computer, on my own time as a free american and do not reflect the opinions of any person or company that I have had professional relations with in the past 49 years. meep questions, help? [link\|mailto:pappas@catholic.org\|email pappas at catholic.org]

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