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Post #149,830 by jbrabeck 4/2/04 3:43:58 PM Reply	How about Citizenship shall be limited to living human beings. Under no circumstances shall these rights be confered upon nor enjoyed by a company, corporation or other such legally created entity; nor shall these rights be extended to any living entitiy otehr than human beings, such as plant life or animal life.
Post #149,832 by Arkadiy 4/2/04 3:51:15 PM Reply	Artificail life? Alien life? -- Less Is More. In my book, About Face, I introduce over 50 powerful design axioms. This is one of them. --Alan Cooper. The Inmates Are Running the Asylum
Post #149,843 by jb4 4/2/04 6:06:54 PM Reply	Re: Artificail life? Alien life? NO, these cannot be citizens (which sorta, I hope, makes "making" them somewhat less enticing) jb4 shrub\ufffdbish (Am., from shrub* + rubbish, after the derisive name for America's 43 president; 2003) n. 1. a form of nonsensical political doubletalk wherein the speaker attempts to defend the indefensible by lying, obfuscation, or otherwise misstating the facts; GIBBERISH. 2. any of a collection of utterances from America's putative 43rd president. cf.* BULLSHIT
Post #149,844 by inthane-chan 4/2/04 6:12:25 PM Reply	I think granting them the rights of citizens... ...decreases the chances of them being made. Why expend effort in creating an AI/whatever if you can't own it as your personal slave? Nobody wins in a butter eating contest
Post #149,877 by Arkadiy 4/3/04 12:43:46 PM Reply	But when they are made/found boy, what a bonanza for slavers! -- Less Is More. In my book, About Face, I introduce over 50 powerful design axioms. This is one of them. --Alan Cooper. The Inmates Are Running the Asylum
Post #149,836 by xtensive 4/2/04 4:42:43 PM Reply	Re: How about.. don't forget my cats Going out on a limb, but... must insist that legal protections be extended to non-human animals. They are sentient beings... not our property to buy, sell, slaughter at will. "The greatness of a nation and its moral progress can be judged by the way its animals are treated." - Mohandas Gandhi thanks mx. "I'm man enough to tell you that I can't put my finger on exactly what my philosophy is now, but I'm flexible." -- Malcolm X
Post #149,839 by inthane-chan 4/2/04 4:56:17 PM Reply	That's a long limb, alright. And while I agree that such is a good idea, enforcing vegetarianism in a country's constitution might be overstepping what we are capable of at this time. :D Nobody wins in a butter eating contest

Defining the "next" constitution. - (inthane-chan) - (37) - April 2, 2004, 04:07:40 PM EST

"is not a living, self-aware organism" ... coma? - (drewk) - (11) - April 2, 2004, 03:05:56 PM EST

If you've got better verbiage, I'm all ears. - (inthane-chan) - (10) - April 2, 2004, 03:11:41 PM EST

How about - (jbrabeck) - (6) - April 2, 2004, 03:43:58 PM EST

Artificail life? Alien life? -NT - (Arkadiy) - (3) - April 2, 2004, 03:51:15 PM EST

Re: Artificail life? Alien life? - (jb4) - (2) - April 2, 2004, 06:06:54 PM EST

I think granting them the rights of citizens... - (inthane-chan) - April 2, 2004, 06:12:25 PM EST

But when they are made/found - (Arkadiy) - April 3, 2004, 12:43:46 PM EST

Re: How about.. don't forget my cats - (xtensive) - (1) - April 2, 2004, 04:42:43 PM EST

That's a long limb, alright. - (inthane-chan) - April 2, 2004, 04:56:17 PM EST

Current legal standard is "natural person" - (drewk) - (2) - April 2, 2004, 03:59:00 PM EST

Thanks, incorporated. -NT - (inthane-chan) - April 2, 2004, 04:09:19 PM EST

Needs clarification - (tuberculosis) - Aug. 21, 2007, 06:40:20 AM EDT

I have problems with your use of "truth" - (Arkadiy) - (1) - April 2, 2004, 03:39:23 PM EST

Freedom of religion. - (inthane-chan) - April 2, 2004, 04:08:41 PM EST

Re: Defining the "next" constitution. - (JayMehaffey) - (2) - April 2, 2004, 05:53:52 PM EST

on your post right to assemble and seek redress from the gov - (boxley) - April 2, 2004, 06:15:18 PM EST

Good food for thought. - (inthane-chan) - April 2, 2004, 06:16:36 PM EST

Re: Defining the "next" constitution. - (jb4) - (1) - April 2, 2004, 06:05:37 PM EST

Re: Defining the "next" constitution. - (inthane-chan) - April 2, 2004, 06:18:02 PM EST

Give it a shot - (boxley) - April 2, 2004, 06:32:55 PM EST

Another thing to consider as a source - the UDHR. - (Another Scott) - (16) - April 2, 2004, 11:09:17 PM EST

total disagreement on a few things - (boxley) - (15) - April 2, 2004, 11:27:34 PM EST

Re: total disagreement on a few things - (JayMehaffey) - (14) - April 3, 2004, 01:16:37 AM EST

that is not a basic function of states - (boxley) - (13) - April 3, 2004, 07:27:15 AM EST

The basic function of states . . . - (Andrew Grygus) - April 3, 2004, 10:20:41 AM EST

Re: that is not a basic function of states - (JayMehaffey) - (10) - April 3, 2004, 01:54:38 PM EST

what the state is better doing? - (boxley) - (1) - April 3, 2004, 08:47:38 PM EST

US doesn't do it very well - (JayMehaffey) - April 4, 2004, 12:20:27 AM EST

Actually, it is... - (danreck) - (7) - April 5, 2004, 04:33:12 PM EDT

Confucius said it better - (Ashton) - April 5, 2004, 05:28:23 PM EDT

Not sure what your point is - (JayMehaffey) - (5) - April 5, 2004, 06:01:44 PM EDT

why should government cover health care? -NT - (boxley) - (4) - April 5, 2004, 06:06:00 PM EDT

Why should business 'cover' health care? - (Ashton) - (1) - April 5, 2004, 07:40:43 PM EDT

Lets start a new thread, free medical care for all or not (new thread) - (boxley) - April 5, 2004, 09:44:30 PM EDT

Things to consider - (JayMehaffey) - (1) - April 5, 2004, 09:37:12 PM EDT

Have you visited a VA hospital or IHS clinic lately? -NT - (boxley) - April 5, 2004, 09:45:36 PM EDT

Re: that is not a basic function of states - (Ashton) - April 4, 2004, 01:32:10 AM EST

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