Fritz Perls and the 'hotseat'

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2/23/03 2:20:04 AM

2/23/03 2:25:25 AM

Fritz Perls and the 'hotseat'

Was an Esalen denizen for a good while. I know someone who sat-in as he was at work (there were always many persons about). Took guts to sit in that seat. (My friend never did). Long ago read, In and Out of the Garbage Pail and maybe thumbed your ref.

(A friend and I -though not ever 'regulars'- put on Esalen's First 'computer workshop' - for Writers, natch. With a bunch of borrowed Osborne1s / WordStar. Some never got the concept of "a floppy disk" throughout; others went on within minutes, to write a short story and explore the Possibilities of: an endless supply of White-Out for emending, repositioning! Word-processors du jour like Wang - cost Thousands.. and shortly died, too)

Not much in the way of metaphysical answers from Fritz, but certainly one of the Best anti-BSers extant (once). If you *really* wanted to work on Your Hangups (through with blaming others) - Fritz was your cat-o-nine tales Guy.

Ashton
(regret I never 'saw' him; in days he was around there, I wasn't)

Edit - as to Jung: yes of course; omit the metaphysical, and all ya gets is another Cookbook. That doesn't make it any easier to deal with *That Idea* in (even special) language. But I keep coming back to notice what he must have grokked, to even try..

Edited by Ashton Feb. 23, 2003, 02:25:25 AM EST

Fritz Perls and the 'hotseat'

Was an Esalen denizen for a good while. I know someone who sat-in as he was at work (there were always many persons about). Took guts to sit in that seat. (My friend never did). Long ago read, In and Out of the Garbage Pail and maybe thumbed your ref.

(A friend and I -though not ever 'regulars'- put on Esalen's First 'computer workshop' - for Writers, natch. With a bunch of borrowed Osborne1s / WordStar. Some never got the concept of "a floppy disk" throughout; others went on within minutes, to write a short story and explore the Possibilities of: an endless supply of White-Out for emending, repositioning! Word-processors du jour like Wang - cost Thousands.. and shortly died, too)

Not much in the way of metaphysical answers from Fritz, but certainly one of the Best anti-BSers extant (once). If you *really* wanted to work on Your Hangups (through with blaming others) - Fritz was your cat-o-nine tales Guy.

Ashton
(regret I never 'saw' him; in days he was around there, I wasn't)

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Post #83,567

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2/23/03 7:29:46 PM

Of course the hard part about Perls was ..

what a bastard he was in life - screwing his patients, leaving his wife & kids (fucked up). A downright selfish man with a giant ego.

Even many of his ideas were simple plagiarism. But, Getalt worked, & he manged to achieve his dream of becoming known as the founder/father of the Gestalt process (sure earned him unlimited sex with hippie girls in the 1970s, even into his old age - old prick managed to become known as the grand-dad of the hippie revolution).

He was so tight-arsed (aggressive anal retentive) that his biggest discomfort in later years was his constant affliction brough on by his bleeding piles.

Why is it so many 'greats' can be such kooks in real life.

Yes I envied the old prick. <grin>

Cheers Doug

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Seems promising... - (rcareaga) - (1) - Feb. 22, 2003, 09:42:08 PM EST

I think it has alot to do with... - (folkert) - Feb. 22, 2003, 11:41:40 PM EST

ahem, no special significance - (boxley) - (21) - Feb. 22, 2003, 10:11:44 PM EST

Re: ahem, no special significance - (rcareaga) - (20) - Feb. 22, 2003, 10:26:23 PM EST

could be, I will have to dig out the fenichel - (boxley) - (19) - Feb. 22, 2003, 10:29:28 PM EST

Re: could be, I will have to dig out the fenichel - (rcareaga) - (18) - Feb. 22, 2003, 10:44:47 PM EST

my apologies then - (boxley) - Feb. 22, 2003, 11:34:45 PM EST

Textbooks and Jung - (Ashton) - (16) - Feb. 22, 2003, 11:51:18 PM EST

on your thinking - (boxley) - (2) - Feb. 23, 2003, 12:05:30 AM EST

No particular quibbles - (Ashton) - (1) - Feb. 23, 2003, 12:51:35 AM EST

sleeping tight leads to bad personal habits:) -NT - (boxley) - Feb. 23, 2003, 12:58:19 AM EST

Re: Textbooks and Jung - (rcareaga) - (5) - Feb. 23, 2003, 12:44:54 AM EST

Theory on that universality (in the US) - (Ashton) - Feb. 23, 2003, 01:21:01 AM EST

Tend to agree re this - had probs with Jung & Freud interp - (dmarker) - (2) - Feb. 23, 2003, 01:40:19 AM EST

Fritz Perls and the 'hotseat' - (Ashton) - (1) - Feb. 23, 2003, 02:25:25 AM EST

Of course the hard part about Perls was .. - (dmarker) - Feb. 23, 2003, 07:29:46 PM EST

Dream theory - (boxley) - Feb. 23, 2003, 01:52:54 AM EST

"a concept of where 'thoughts' might come from" - (rcareaga) - (6) - Feb. 23, 2003, 12:52:11 AM EST

Fresh tofu. - (Ashton) - (1) - Feb. 23, 2003, 02:04:06 AM EST

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Yeeeesss.... Dennett - (tseliot) - (3) - Feb. 23, 2003, 03:27:03 AM EST

trouble is I dont remember the boring parts much - (boxley) - (2) - Feb. 23, 2003, 10:11:57 AM EST

Some lyrics which are apropos :) - (tseliot) - (1) - Feb. 23, 2003, 06:56:02 PM EST

Um.. we seem to have that dream, already__:-\ufffd -NT - (Ashton) - Feb. 24, 2003, 05:48:43 PM EST

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