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New On cooling...
Me... I just throw my computer in the tub when playing games... I don't have to worry about reboots or anything of the type...

But, then I get to replace alot of stuff... ;)

Actually, one machine I have (one mentioned earlier here), I have about 20 fans in it, some small one some larger ones and two biggies 200MM spins at ~1000RPM (one pusher, one puller) and they about suck my shirt off (ewww bad picture I know)...

Water cooling is for people who have nothing more than time and money to waste on *AHEAD* of the Bleeding Edge technology. Heck they have Water Cooling for CPU, NorthBridge, VideoCards, Power Supplies, Hard Drives, DVD/CD Burners... fun++ == putting fluoresing ingredients in the water and black-lighting it!!!

Tooo much work for me...

[link|mailto:curley95@attbi.com|greg] - Grand-Master Artist in IT
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Heimatland Geheime Staatspolizei reminds:
These [link|http://www.whitehouse.gov/pcipb/cyberstrategy-draft.html|Civilian General Orders], please memorize them.
"Questions" will be asked at safety checkpoints.
New Re: On cooling...
There was an IBM frame that used liquid nitrogen to cool the CPU.

BTW adding fans won't help. The issue is to move the hot air away from the CPU, not blow cold air on it (although if you could arrange that, it would be nice). Running with the cover off is the surest way to overheat the CPU, because there is no orderly flow of air over the components. The IBM PS/2 servers would not operate with the cover off.

-drl
New I use airflow dynamics...
and "Path" my heat out of machines... so intake never crosses exhaust... usually Front=>Back

But this time, I used a Venturi effect with the Big Fans... and push the hot air into the Stream.

Works real nice, the Drives I am using used to be in IBM Storage Drawers... they ran ~95 degrees F with refrigerated cooling... right now ~105 degrees F. Very little noise too... those big fans are nice for that.

[link|mailto:curley95@attbi.com|greg] - Grand-Master Artist in IT
[link|http://www.iwethey.org/ed_curry/|REMEMBER ED CURRY!]   [link|http://pascal.rockford.com:8888/SSK@kQMsmc74S0Tw3KHQiRQmDem0gAIPAgM/edcurry/1//|ED'S GHOST SPEAKS!]
Heimatland Geheime Staatspolizei reminds:
These [link|http://www.whitehouse.gov/pcipb/cyberstrategy-draft.html|Civilian General Orders], please memorize them.
"Questions" will be asked at safety checkpoints.
Expand Edited by gfolkertold Jan. 14, 2003, 12:47:19 PM EST
New "Airflow dynamics?"
Is that anything like "Never put an IDE drive between two SCSI drives so that big fat SCSI cable covers the entire thing, insulating it and causing it to bake thoroughly?

I *still* bear the scars from that.
"We are all born originals -- why is it so many of us die copies?"
- Edward Young
New Uhhh.... *SHRUG*
Maybe... Oh, I can't believe you brought *THAT* up again...

[link|mailto:curley95@attbi.com|greg] - Grand-Master Artist in IT
[link|http://www.iwethey.org/ed_curry/|REMEMBER ED CURRY!]   [link|http://pascal.rockford.com:8888/SSK@kQMsmc74S0Tw3KHQiRQmDem0gAIPAgM/edcurry/1//|ED'S GHOST SPEAKS!]
Heimatland Geheime Staatspolizei reminds:
These [link|http://www.whitehouse.gov/pcipb/cyberstrategy-draft.html|Civilian General Orders], please memorize them.
"Questions" will be asked at safety checkpoints.
New I can't help it
it's the only time I've ever reached in to a pc and seriously BURNED MY HAND.

Like I said, it scarred me. I was depressed for almost a year after that.
"We are all born originals -- why is it so many of us die copies?"
- Edward Young
New Add a component and it does work
Running with the cover off is the surest way to overheat the CPU, because there is no orderly flow of air over the components.
My system at home (2 more weeks till I break down and buy a new one) is running with the cover off (dead power supply fan). I have a mini fan blowing into the box that cools it just fine.
Why should we ask our military to die for cheap oil when the rest of us aren't even being asked to get better mileage?
-[link|http://www.workingforchange.com/article.cfm?itemid=14107|Molly Ivins]
New Ugh :)
Any gravity mounted drives? :)
-drl
New Huh?
You mean like the one I've got hanging and swinging in the breeze from the IDE and power cables?
Why should we ask our military to die for cheap oil when the rest of us aren't even being asked to get better mileage?
-[link|http://www.workingforchange.com/article.cfm?itemid=14107|Molly Ivins]
New LMAO!
Damn, I can't begin to count the number of times I've had to do that...
Any deity worthy of a graven image can cobble up a working universe complete with fake fossils in under a week - hey, if you're not omnipotent, there's no real point in being a god. But to start with a big ball of elementary particles and end up with the duckbill platypus without constant twiddling requires a degree of subtlety and the ability to Think Things Through: exactly the qualities I'm looking for when I'm shopping for a Supreme Being.
New Re: Huh?
Might as well hang some wind chimes from the case inner top. Maybe also one of those nice prismatic glass things to catch the sunlight, like hippie chicks used to like - wake'n bake and nice colors.
-drl
     Having the darndest time trying to troubleshoot this problem - (cwbrenn) - (49)
         Check the mounting holes on the MB - (folkert) - (33)
             Re: Check the mounting holes on the MB - (cwbrenn) - (32)
                 It could be the Current Draw with the BAD - (folkert) - (31)
                     Hehehe, glad you like it - (cwbrenn)
                     Yeah, try a BIOS upgrade. - (static) - (29)
                         Well, I tried updating the BIOS - (cwbrenn) - (28)
                             Updating the BIOS doesn't seem to work. - (cwbrenn) - (27)
                                 Try resetting the CMOS - (orion)
                                 That it's now reporting the CPU correctly is actually good. - (static) - (25)
                                     Or check the CPU fan - (orion) - (1)
                                         Well, the CPU fan/heat sink - (cwbrenn)
                                     But if it were a bad driver for one of the peripherals, - (cwbrenn) - (22)
                                         Not particularly... - (folkert) - (21)
                                             OK, the specs. - (cwbrenn) - (20)
                                                 Good... now onto... - (folkert) - (2)
                                                     ok, but... what is KNOPPIX? - (cwbrenn) - (1)
                                                         Well... _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ Chris READ!!!!! - (folkert)
                                                 Windows XP hardware registration ... ick. - (static) - (16)
                                                     More information - (cwbrenn) - (15)
                                                         Ouchy.... - (folkert) - (13)
                                                             of cards and coolers... - (cwbrenn) - (12)
                                                                 Review the placement of each card - (Steven A S)
                                                                 On cooling... - (folkert) - (10)
                                                                     Re: On cooling... - (deSitter) - (9)
                                                                         I use airflow dynamics... - (folkert) - (3)
                                                                             "Airflow dynamics?" - (cwbrenn) - (2)
                                                                                 Uhhh.... *SHRUG* - (folkert) - (1)
                                                                                     I can't help it - (cwbrenn)
                                                                         Add a component and it does work - (Silverlock) - (4)
                                                                             Ugh :) - (deSitter) - (3)
                                                                                 Huh? - (Silverlock) - (2)
                                                                                     LMAO! - (inthane-chan)
                                                                                     Re: Huh? - (deSitter)
                                                         Check the IRQ->slot list in the m/b manual. - (static)
         Chris, I did not see mention of thermal compound. - (a6l6e6x) - (1)
             Yeah, using Silver thermal compound - (cwbrenn)
         Timing issue? - (deSitter) - (2)
             I think so. - (cwbrenn) - (1)
                 Oh yes - (deSitter)
         Re: Having the darndest time trying to troubleshoot this pro - (JayMehaffey) - (9)
             Re: Having the darndest time trying to troubleshoot this pro - (cwbrenn) - (8)
                 They're different generation, so different T not unusual. - (Another Scott)
                 Odd - (JayMehaffey) - (6)
                     That's *very* hot. - (Another Scott) - (4)
                         I'm very sure. - (cwbrenn) - (2)
                             Oh, nevermind. You were talking to Jay. :D - (cwbrenn)
                             Nothing to see. Move along. :-) -NT - (Another Scott)
                         That is what it says - (JayMehaffey)
                     AHHH... YIKES... - (folkert)

Grrrr, watch me beat my chest.
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