I see you're perpetuating myths again.

Post #45,727 by static 7/16/02 12:12:43 AM Reply	I see you're perpetuating myths again. Ignorant fundamentalist claptrap goes "Worship God or Burn In Hell!" - which might have been fine enough when Not Worshipping God meant Worshipping Some Other God, but now there's Not Worshipping Any God, as you keep swearing at us about. Current modern evangelical Christian thinking says "Worship God because He Loves You and wants You to have the best He can offer in this life and the next." with a PS that goes "He knows best because He made us. Savvy?" Wade. "Ah. One of the difficult questions."
Post #45,738 by CRConrad 7/16/02 5:55:30 AM Reply	So, why do you call yourself a "Christian", if... ...you don't believe in the frigging _Bible_?!? How is this "Current modern evangelical thinking" [N.B: No "Christian" in there; it doesn't belong] anything other than "Ignorant NON-fundamentalist New-Age namby-pamby claptrap", when it ignores the very Holy Scripture it claims to be all about??? 'Coz that stuff IS in there, how ever much you try to deny it. I am not "perpetuating myths"; I'm just being uncomfortable by reminding you of your myths, the existence of which you seem to want to deny when it's convenient. Christian R. Conrad Microsoft is a true reflection of Bill Gates' personality - the sleaziest, most unethical, ugliest little rat's ass the world has seen unto this time. -- [link\|http://z.iwethey.org/forums/render/content/show?contentid=42971\|Andrew Grygus]
Post #45,744 by static 7/16/02 7:57:26 AM Reply	Don't put words in my mouth, CRC. Nor remove the ones I did say. The song below by a [link\|http://www.paulcolmantrio.com/\|friend of mine] says all I need to say to you on this topic at this point. Wade. Dear God I don't understand What you're doing If you're real and you're in control You must see the path we're choosing And I don't understand but somehow I believe It's all in your hands Yeah but I don't believe in a God who gives More of his love to those who say they believe And I've read you're book and I think it says It's not what you say but it's how you live Dear God How your name's been used to justify treason And although it hurts me to say Sometimes the enemy's religion And I don't understand but somehow I believe It's all in your hands Yeah but I don't believe in a God who gives More of his love to those who say they believe And I've read you're book and I think it says It's not what you say but it's how you live And I don't understand but somehow I believe It's all in your hands Yeah but I don't believe in a God who gives More of his love to those who say they believe And I've read you're book and I know it says It's not what you say but it's how you live There ain't none so blind as them that won't believe.
Post #45,750 by CRConrad 7/16/02 9:08:53 AM Reply	Then you first refrain from doing so to me. Or what the fuck do you think your "perpetuating myths" post was doing?!? Christian R. Conrad Microsoft is a true reflection of Bill Gates' personality - the sleaziest, most unethical, ugliest little rat's ass the world has seen unto this time. -- [link\|http://z.iwethey.org/forums/render/content/show?contentid=42971\|Andrew Grygus]
Post #45,841 by static 7/16/02 10:37:23 PM 7/16/02 10:43:27 PM Reply	Post rescinded. "Ah. One of the difficult questions." Edited by static July 16, 2002, 10:43:27 PM EDT Expand All History
Post #45,781 by orion 7/16/02 12:39:07 PM Reply	More than just that Worship God or burn in Hell. Well rather face judgement from God after you die, which could lead to burning in Hell. Worship God because he made us. Many are ungrateful, but God must have had a reason for making us the way we are. Worship God because he wants you to have the best in this life and the next. Well some of us, he must want to suffer? He only tests the strong, right? But most importantly, worship God because he sent his son Jesus to die for our sins so that they can be forgiven. God loves the sinner, but hates the sin. The sin keeps us away from God and gets us into trouble. When we disobey God, we sin. God sent us the Ten Commandments, the Mosaic Laws, and other things to follow like the words of Jesus. *I am free now, to choose my own destiny.*
Post #45,834 by Ashton 7/16/02 10:03:18 PM Reply	No need to perpetuate problems. What You choose to Believe is entirely your own affair. In fact the only time/event/situation wherein another might Care What You Believe is: When, acting upon your beliefs/Beliefs - You/Yours demonstrate a next willingness to limit My Choices about "life on this planet" (to keep it simple) via enforcing Your Beliefs into: Civil Law. (or near-equivalents in enforcing behavior other than overtly legally) Can you never Get This? Your [personal idea of a] God is not My [personal idea of a] God !! (And even If It Were, pretty-much? I hope.. I would have gained the experience and wisdom to Not impose 'Our' [personal ideas of] Beliefs upon a Third Party.) Rebutting 'Christian-persons' is not about telling You that Your Beliefs + Dogma are Wrong. It is about telling You that: You have no monopoly upon Truth, even if that is a tenet of Your! [personal idea of a] Good dogma for You to Follow\ufffd <<< ie your withholding of a next urge to proselytize: does not mean that You Don't Believe Well-enough so as to.. automatically Defend Your idea of Truth! It means only that, you acknowledge that Others live on the planet too. Until you Get This you will continue to say your homilies as-if: I and Others are Wrong / You are Right-eous. Just as with the start of every War since the First... and as Shall continue well into Tomorrow BECAUSE of this intransigent, intolerant mere-Personal-feeling of.. nothing more complex than - Mine's Bigger\ufffd (And worse: I Will Save You from Your Error! 'Patronize' derives from the very-same Father-fixation root) {sheesh}^x Ashton [just paste this after your next sermon, svp.]

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