Thane's rules for Christmas Music

Post #437,507 by InThane 12/7/20 3:08:55 PM 12/7/20 3:08:55 PM Reply	Thane's rules for Christmas Music 1. Christmas music is only to be played after Thanksgiving until December 25th. 2. See rule #1. 3. If Ella Fitzgerald sang it, just don't try. Sorry, Annie Lennox, you have a great voice, but Ella got to Winter Wonderland first, and there's no way you're going to top that. 4. If the song was arranged for Mariah Carey, make sure you have a five octave range before singing it. 5. "Last Christmas" is NOT A FUCKING CHRISTMAS SONG. 6. Same goes for "Do They Know It's Christmas/Feed the World". Seriously, just bury that turd. 7. I don't know if I like Michael Bublé's singing voice; I just know I don't like what it sounds like after every ounce of potential talent has been autotuned out of it. 8. Mannheim Steamroller is the same as Bublé, except that every ounce of soul has been synthesized out of the music itself. 9. It is OK to headbang to Trans-Siberian Orchestra's Christmas Eve/Sarajevo. These thoughts brought to you by an atheist with a childhood nostalgia streak. use std::option::sig
Post #437,510 by drook 12/7/20 3:36:29 PM 12/7/20 3:36:29 PM Reply	10. Christmas songs are like pumpkin pie: if we really like them we'd have them year-round -- Drew
Post #437,511 by InThane 12/7/20 4:04:09 PM 12/7/20 4:04:09 PM Reply	Eh, I like pumpkin pie. I also happen to like (some) Christmas music, but I also know that over time if I listen to something too much, I burn out on it. use std::option::sig
Post #437,531 by Ashton 12/7/20 7:35:29 PM 12/7/20 7:35:29 PM Reply	Then: 'Upper Crust™ Amaretto Pumpkin Pie™ might well tickle your fancy..?' (It's local, a bakery in Marin county; dunno if they ship or have contacts elsewhere) All I know is that: it Is por moi the most enticing improvement to the genre, yet tasted. Over even the last millennium. Bon Appetít.
Post #439,029 by CRConrad 5/5/21 7:43:57 AM 5/5/21 7:43:57 AM Reply	At a wild guess based on just the name, it's less the punkin than the Amaretto wot does it.
Post #437,512 by boxley 12/7/20 4:30:31 PM 12/7/20 4:30:31 PM Reply	no date rape songs "Science is the belief in the ignorance of the experts" – Richard Feynman
Post #437,520 by InThane 12/7/20 5:20:23 PM 12/7/20 5:20:23 PM Reply	Context matters. I know exactly the song you're talking about. At not one point in the song does the woman actually say she doesn't want to say - she's talking about what everybody else would think if she stayed. In the culture of the time, the perception of a woman's "purity" was more important than her own desires, and if you read between the lines the lines she sings are "Somebody else might look badly at me" rather than "I don't want to be here." ...at least, that's one interpretation. It's definitely a song that's changed in meaning and perception over the years. (And yes, he could have offered to call her a cab.) use std::option::sig
Post #437,526 by crazy 12/7/20 6:56:19 PM 12/7/20 6:56:19 PM Reply	It's cold out there
Post #437,536 by boxley 12/7/20 9:46:13 PM 12/7/20 9:46:13 PM Reply	in todays world she would have suspected a roofie "whats in that drink?" maced his face, tazed him strapped him with ductape and shoved a christmas ornament up his ass then posted that on instagram. Like you mentioned, times change "Science is the belief in the ignorance of the experts" – Richard Feynman
Post #437,530 by Ashton 12/7/20 7:29:28 PM 12/7/20 7:29:28 PM Reply	Damn! but 8-'Mannheim', recently peeped in fast-passant: brought to mind your comment (but customized to this jelloware). (Alas though, so much of the transistorized-guitars + DRUMS omnipresent even on PBS), just comes crashing-in, faster that I can hit MUTE, in time. I aver that there are Many of us cranks, re the drowning-out of authentic music as still Stands, in the face of its oft mere parodies, each so algorithmically-similar to the last one. :-/
Post #437,540 by static 12/8/20 12:51:15 AM 12/8/20 12:51:15 AM Reply	Too many overdone Western songs, anyway. I normally corral a heap of Kpop Christmas songs (of which a number are actually in English). I did that once at the family Christmas gathering a few years ago and my mother never noticed. It was Christmas-y music, anyway. Wade.
Post #437,541 by Another Scott 12/8/20 12:57:41 AM 12/8/20 12:57:41 AM Reply	IPop was there first. https://twitter.com/HarrietMould/status/1331890921277943808 ;-) Cheers, Scott.
Post #437,544 by drook 12/8/20 2:23:41 AM 12/8/20 2:23:41 AM Reply	The blond sounded more German -- Drew
Post #437,594 by static 12/9/20 4:03:28 AM 12/9/20 4:03:28 AM Reply	Heh. There was a popular song on the Western charts in '02 you might've heard of: The Ketchup Song. The main version had all the verses in Spanish, but the chorus...? Well, I've heard that it is deliberately misheard version of a rap in English - as if repeated by a Spanish speaker who does not understand English. :-) Wade.
Post #437,546 by pwhysall 12/8/20 5:13:35 AM 12/8/20 5:13:35 AM Reply	It's all garbage I don't care if it's Mariah Carey, Ella Fitzgerald, or Wolfgang Amadeus Fucking Mozart. Christmas music is trash. Fite me!
Post #437,547 by mmoffitt 12/8/20 8:28:30 AM 12/8/20 8:28:30 AM Reply	All? Eh... I dunno 'bout that. These guys do a good job that's worth a listen, if only a couple of times a year. bcnu, Mikem It's mourning in America again.
Post #437,549 by pwhysall 12/8/20 9:05:59 AM 12/8/20 9:05:59 AM Reply	If it didn't have an Xmas video, you'd not know it was Xmas music.
Post #437,551 by drook 12/8/20 9:20:42 AM 12/8/20 9:20:42 AM Reply	You don't recognize that as caroling music? -- Drew
Post #437,556 by pwhysall 12/8/20 9:47:33 AM 12/8/20 9:47:33 AM Reply	Nope, because it's been de-Xmas-ified via the power of cellos. So they had to put the Xmas back in, with snow and fairy lights. Man, you people will be defending jazz* next. * Jazz is what happens when you kick a blues quartet down the stairs.
Post #437,566 by mmoffitt 12/8/20 2:44:09 PM 12/8/20 2:44:09 PM Reply	Don't you start mocking jazz, wanker. This is a lousy video, but if you don't enjoy that sound, I don't think you can recover from whatever it is that ails you. And how can you not recognize "Carol of the Bells" as Xmas music, cellos or no? bcnu, Mikem It's mourning in America again.
Post #437,580 by pwhysall 12/8/20 5:15:15 PM 12/8/20 5:15:15 PM Reply	If that's the cure, I'm happier having the disease.
Post #437,599 by mmoffitt 12/9/20 8:24:23 AM 12/9/20 8:24:23 AM Reply	You are the first person I've heard from in 40 years who doesn't like Bob James and Earl Klugh. bcnu, Mikem It's mourning in America again.
Post #437,589 by a6l6e6x 12/8/20 10:50:58 PM 12/8/20 10:50:58 PM Reply	OT: "Carol of the Bells" Did you know it originated in Ukraine? Wikipedia. Alex "There is a cult of ignorance in the United States, and there has always been. The strain of anti-intellectualism has been a constant thread winding its way through our political and cultural life, nurtured by the false notion that democracy means that "my ignorance is just as good as your knowledge." -- Isaac Asimov
Post #437,598 by mmoffitt 12/9/20 8:22:38 AM 12/9/20 8:22:38 AM Reply	Да, я знаю. bcnu, Mikem It's mourning in America again.
Post #437,557 by crazy 12/8/20 10:01:24 AM 12/8/20 10:01:24 AM Reply	Oh my that was nice, and it led me to this. https://youtu.be/SYSxOj6W7IQ
Post #437,558 by drook 12/8/20 10:58:40 AM 12/8/20 10:58:40 AM Reply	And that led to this. https://youtu.be/4FUeo3YSgzE I don't know if non-musicians can understand just how amazing this is. Listen to the first minute to get a taste of what he's attempting, then skip ahead to 4:41 to have your mind absolutely blown. -- Drew
Post #437,595 by static 12/9/20 4:19:27 AM 12/9/20 4:19:27 AM Reply	Ooh.... very nice! He knows how his memory works to listen to the right things on the fly in such a way as to remember it. I've seen professional dancers watch a fairly complex pop-music dance just once - and then copy it nearly perfectly. Similar set of skills. :-) Wade.
Post #437,607 by drook 12/9/20 1:10:48 PM 12/9/20 1:10:48 PM Reply	The patterns are somewhat common to the style though I didn't hit it nearly as precisely as he does, but lots of it was almost predictable. I'd like to think if I had stayed with it I would pick it up pretty quickly. -- Drew
Post #437,635 by static 12/9/20 7:20:30 PM 12/9/20 7:20:30 PM Reply	Recognising the patterns are key. I've seen experienced jazz musicians jam together for 5 minutes based on nothing more than "this key and this time and about this fast". Wade.
Post #437,641 by drook 12/9/20 10:53:54 PM 12/9/20 10:53:55 PM Reply	I've done that. When you find a group on the same wavelength it's magic. -- Drew
Post #437,642 by Ashton 12/9/20 11:33:42 PM 12/9/20 11:33:42 PM Reply	Even moi can dig it ..from ~6.00 --> on, the real-guitar + piano: rhythm ... linked at the feet! ✓ and these chaps get that: Dynamics, ƒƒƒ to pianissimo, need to be invoked; All-LOUD is, por moi a Bitch. What's not to like here? :-)
Post #437,649 by crazy 12/10/20 8:21:49 AM 12/10/20 8:21:49 AM Reply	Don't skip, watch it all I am a non-musician. But I pay attention. What he is trying to do in the beginning, and I didn't understand it, was listen to music that he was imagining him playing the drums along with. Which he then turned into a masterful accompaniment of the initial music. I had to go back after and listen to some of it and watch again because at that point I understood what he was doing. Just initially I see a guy listen to music and sounding like he was memorizing the music to maybe replay the music. That was quite interesting as well but I was wrong. He was actively creating in his mind while he was listening to the music.
Post #437,687 by static 12/11/20 12:10:41 AM 12/11/20 12:10:41 AM Reply	Yes. That it is. He was not listening for appreciation, he was looking for where to participate. Quite a different skillset! Wade.
Post #437,569 by lincoln 12/8/20 3:01:43 PM 12/8/20 3:01:43 PM Reply	LRPD in the comments "This sounds like AC/DC played by the Sugar Plum Fairies" Satan (impatiently) to Newcomer: The trouble with you Chicago people is, that you think you are the best people down here; whereas you are merely the most numerous. - - - Mark Twain, "Pudd'nhead Wilson's New Calendar" 1897
Post #437,559 by InThane 12/8/20 1:12:49 PM 12/8/20 1:12:49 PM Reply	You think 56k baud negotiation signaling is music Your opinion is invalid. ;) use std::option::sig
Post #437,560 by pwhysall 12/8/20 1:15:11 PM 12/8/20 1:15:11 PM Reply	You just invented that! You've been in the (almost) exclusive company of small children too long.
Post #437,561 by InThane 12/8/20 1:20:06 PM 12/8/20 1:20:06 PM Reply	Pfft. There's some pretty decent kid's music these days, ever heard of Caspar Babypants? Local chap who used to be the lead singer for The Presidents of the United States of America, the court jesters of the grunge scene. How many people can take "Pop Goes the Weasel" and turn it into a commentary on what it's like to be a one-hit wonder while still being a kid's song? Of course, Sturgeon's Law applies to everything - and what fits in one person's 90% might be a favorite of another person. Or as I say, everybody has a right to their own taste in music, even if it's wrong. use std::option::sig
Post #437,562 by drook 12/8/20 1:30:57 PM 12/8/20 1:30:57 PM Reply	I'm pretty sure I hate the idea of "kids' music" Sure there's stuff that's inappropriate lyrically, so I'd tend to avoid listening to that around them. But anything that's made specifically for kids tends to be horrible. -- Drew
Post #437,563 by InThane 12/8/20 1:42:31 PM 12/8/20 1:42:31 PM Reply	Belive me, I was horrified by the idea at first... and yes, there is a lot of utter garbage in the kid's world. Don't even get me started about Raffi, who apparently is huge in a lot of families. (Not mine, that fucker gets skipped any time his music comes up) And we're not even going to talk about that fucking purple dinosaur. There are a few songs out there that are surprisingly decent. Casper Babypants doesn't use "inappropriate" language, and yet still somehow ends up sounding like he's still doing a continuation of his old grunge band. (which was halfway to a kids' band already - "Little Dune Buggy", "Some Postman", "Peaches" for example) Then there's Kira Willey's "Let's Go To Work" which I've actually considered doing a solo jazz routine to - played it for a few other local dancers, and they've all reacted rather positively to it. ``use std::option::sig
Post #437,564 by malraux 12/8/20 2:25:28 PM 12/8/20 2:25:28 PM Reply	They Might Be Giants Great stuff IMO. Raffi is trash. Regards, -scott Welcome to Rivendell, Mr. Anderson.
Post #437,596 by static 12/9/20 4:21:22 AM 12/9/20 4:21:22 AM Reply	I imagine The Wiggles might disagree with you.
Post #437,601 by drook 12/9/20 8:28:16 AM 12/9/20 8:28:16 AM Reply	And I would disagree right back Do you still listen to their music as an adult, and not just playing it for your kids? If not, then it's not good music. -- Drew
Post #437,714 by Ashton 12/12/20 4:15:55 PM 12/12/20 4:15:55 PM Reply	Op. cit 'Mairzy-Dotes' {however misspelled) (A song before your time; utter nonsense--but it likely launched or ..cauterized? my attention to the wonder-filled World of Puns (if not punsters). What it did fershure was: alert moi to Pay attention to Words, not become distracted at their oral or written-form, but--as inducement next, ackshully look-it-up along w/ its synonyms. These prods having been inculcated, then--somehow stumbling onto [Mention #666) The Tyranny of Words /Stuart Chase--pub 1938!--and meant for a young niece (IIRC). as stoked a life-long attachment (to ..later, Feynman's version: stealing Title of one of his pop-books for all readers not-just-gearheads: The Pleasure of Finding Things Out. tl;dr: Indeed 'kid's books' vary from utter amateur-tripe on through the virtuosos' tales as create Newest- imaginations of future consequence, I aver.
Post #437,715 by drook 12/12/20 4:21:10 PM 12/12/20 4:21:10 PM Reply	I'm old enough to know about Lamzy Divey -- Drew
Post #437,719 by Ashton 12/12/20 6:02:30 PM 12/12/20 6:02:30 PM Reply	Ooohh, nostalgia: 'k, hows about? ... 'Praise the lord and Pass the Ammunition' ..next line. (If we can recall crap like this--from earliest times--and continue the ∑ after: we'd all have a Nobel). But who would not prefer ..an IgNobel, eh?
Post #437,570 by Ashton 12/8/20 3:05:15 PM 12/8/20 3:05:15 PM Reply	Snidely Whiplash-LRPD: We come here for the righteous indignation and hilarity that follows.

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