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New That's fine in the primary. Vote the party in the general...
New Here's your sign. :0)
Expand Edited by mmoffitt May 6, 2016, 12:36:19 PM EDT
New I don't have a problem with that.
Do you think real change is easy?

;-p

Cheers,
Scott.
New No. But it's not as unpossible as you've suggested either. ;-)
New I think we've been through this before.
History tells us, on multiple occasions, that the PPACA was the most that could get through the Congress of the time.

Bernie gave it a good shot, but he showed that there aren't enough votes for him to start his Revolution™.

At some point, one has to recognize that votes matter, and if you don't have the votes to get what you want, then you work to get as much as you can that gets you toward the end you desire. Compromise, half-a-loaf, etc., is a good result.

Sure, it's not "impossible", but reality keeps getting in the way.

Cheers,
Scott.
New I suspect this thread will wind down
...with no one having persuaded the other side. Cheers back to Scott, who has been patient, and to mmoffitt as well, whose tenacity in the defense of his obsessions has something admirable about it even when his arguments become preposterous, and whose tone, while occasionally strident, has never exceeded the boundaries of civil discourse. Mind you, we're a pub brawl here compared to the gentlemen's club over at Crooked Timber, but I like the tone overall. I do wish that ol' CRC would drop by more frequently to lob a grenade. I fear that fatherhood has dulled his edge.

cordially,
New We do well here.
I miss many of our old compatriots. :-(

I've learned a lot from you folks and greatly appreciate that. Balloon-Juice is fun, but there's a lot of noise and lots of people just post snark. Snark is great, but ... The trolling would be too much there without cleek's pie filter.

Let's keep it up! :-)

Cheers,
Scott.
New Hats off to you both.
I know I've strayed from being civil on occasion, and for that I do apologize. I appreciate greatly being able to cross swords with the two of you because, despite my legion of posts indicating otherwise, I actually *do* value your opinions and very much look forward to reading your retorts.
New obviously I haven't read *all* your posts
...but I don't recall your ever going (cough!) off the reservation, and as I've observed before, you win points for keeping it together even when you, a lone man, are parrying a dozen swordthrusts at once from a group of us on this or that point(!) of politics or culture.

cordially,
New Thank you. Awfully kind of you.
New Well said.
     Fun Trump page. - (mmoffitt) - (61)
         pretty much. Same folks dismissing his run against Clinton - (boxley) - (60)
             The GOP primary has provided... - (rcareaga) - (59)
                 I've been rolling this "lesser evil" thing around in my head. - (mmoffitt) - (57)
                     I don't view it as Loyalty... - (Another Scott) - (56)
                         what Scott said and furthermore - (rcareaga) - (55)
                             rolling back of such social gains as have been made the past twenty-five years Really? name a few - (boxley) - (54)
                                 Re: rolling back of such social gains as have been made the past twenty-five years Really? name a fe - (Another Scott) - (11)
                                     Why Cruz is worse than Trump - (jake123) - (10)
                                         Good points, but... - (Another Scott) - (9)
                                             The SCOTUS issue is a non-starter after pro-Super Pac Merrick Garland. -NT - (mmoffitt) - (8)
                                                 SCOTUS decides hundreds of cases a year. Purity kills. -NT - (Another Scott) - (4)
                                                     Point: Merrick *IS* the kind of Justice we're supposed to fear. -NT - (mmoffitt) - (3)
                                                         Re: Point: Merrick *IS* the kind of Justice we're supposed to fear. - (Another Scott) - (2)
                                                             He had Orrin Hatch's support? Well, that makes him less onerous. NOT. -NT - (mmoffitt) - (1)
                                                                 Keep flailing. That'll get Roy Moore on the SCOTUS faster!!1 -NT - (Another Scott)
                                                 Significantly better than Scalia and progress in the right direction - (malraux) - (2)
                                                     Goering over Adolph then. -NT - (mmoffitt) - (1)
                                                         *roll* - (malraux)
                                 Re: rolling back of such social gains...? - (rcareaga) - (41)
                                     Wow. The ACA was a "social gain"? - (mmoffitt) - (40)
                                         This is just stupid - (jake123) - (11)
                                             what is even more stupid is that medicare for all could have been passed with adding a 5% - (boxley) - (10)
                                                 It would only work if you could get the law passed - (drook) - (8)
                                                     Conyers gave it a shot in 2009. It died in committee (as it always does). -NT - (Another Scott) - (2)
                                                         Liar - (drook) - (1)
                                                             Ack! You have cut me to the bone!!11 -NT - (Another Scott)
                                                     33 million still have no insurance. HTH. -NT - (mmoffitt) - (1)
                                                         Re: 33 million still have no insurance. HTH. - (Another Scott)
                                                     Um, Bernie Sanders? - (mmoffitt) - (2)
                                                         Presidents don't pass laws -NT - (drook) - (1)
                                                             Right. - (mmoffitt)
                                                 Re: what is even more stupid is that medicare for all could have been passed with adding a 5% - (Another Scott)
                                         Re: Wow. The ACA was a "social gain"? - (Another Scott) - (2)
                                             Um, no. - (mmoffitt) - (1)
                                                 Re: Um, no. - (Another Scott)
                                         odd way of putting it - (rcareaga) - (24)
                                             I predicted on this very board that Obama would raise that false equivalence... - (mmoffitt) - (22)
                                                 speaking of inanity - (rcareaga) - (6)
                                                     Show me the equivalent Federal Penalty for not buying a car. - (mmoffitt) - (5)
                                                         Roberts addressed this in 2012 - (Another Scott) - (4)
                                                             but they swore it was not a tax on the american people? So the tax is on top of - (boxley)
                                                             Man, you're agreeing with some interesting folks these days. Roberts? Really? -NT - (mmoffitt) - (2)
                                                                 Recognizing reality is a helpful way to get through life. ;-) - (Another Scott) - (1)
                                                                     Heh. I think a "tax" you pay ONLY when you don't do something is a fine. ;0) - (mmoffitt)
                                                 Nobody's "forced to purchase health insurance". - (Another Scott) - (14)
                                                     Ah. I see. A federal fine is no injury at all. - (mmoffitt) - (13)
                                                         It used to be a federal law... - (Another Scott) - (12)
                                                             I'm not voting against her, I'm voting for someone committed to universal healthcare. -NT - (mmoffitt) - (11)
                                                                 That's fine in the primary. Vote the party in the general... -NT - (Another Scott) - (10)
                                                                     Here's your sign. :0) - (mmoffitt) - (9)
                                                                         I don't have a problem with that. - (Another Scott) - (8)
                                                                             No. But it's not as unpossible as you've suggested either. ;-) -NT - (mmoffitt) - (7)
                                                                                 I think we've been through this before. - (Another Scott) - (6)
                                                                                     I suspect this thread will wind down - (rcareaga) - (5)
                                                                                         We do well here. - (Another Scott) - (4)
                                                                                             Hats off to you both. - (mmoffitt) - (3)
                                                                                                 obviously I haven't read *all* your posts - (rcareaga) - (2)
                                                                                                     Thank you. Awfully kind of you. -NT - (mmoffitt)
                                                                                                     Well said. -NT - (Another Scott)
                                             nope, you can do what million s of poor americans and illegals do. Drive without it. - (boxley)
                 you photoshopped a picture of him on the crapper? -NT - (boxley)

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