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Post #406,040
by lincoln
11/6/15 10:36:31 AM
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New How often do you attend these meetings
from home, after hours, using your own personal computer? Isn't your employer part of the 21st Century, where they give you a laptop with all of their software pre-installed, that they expect you to take home and use on their premises, to do your job? And if there's a problem with it, aren't they responsible for fixing their property?

If not, why are you working for a Ludditte company?




Satan (impatiently) to Newcomer: The trouble with you Chicago people is, that you think you are the best people down here; whereas you are merely the most numerous.
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Post #406,042
by pwhysall
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11/6/15 10:46:33 AM
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New Stop right there.
Staaaaaaahp.

I'm not asking your opinion, here. I'm telling you how it is, in a company that employs a lot of developers. I'm telling you what you'd need to be able to do and talk about just to be able to get an interview.

I work in biz dev, but I'm often involved in interviews because I'm a people person, and exactly because I'm not inclined to get into the minutiae of technical matters. I've been here a long time and I know who's going to fit and who isn't.

So you can dismiss my experience and opinion, because I'm not a developer, irrespective of my input into the hiring process.

On the other hand, Scott A is 100% exactly what you're trying to be and do; further, he's the guy who'd be interviewing you and making the final hire/no hire decision. And he's saying the exact same things that I am.

You're pissing into the wind. Unsurprisingly, this is resulting in you being covered in piss.
     Just got bitched at by a dothead recruiter - (lincoln) - (53) - Nov. 3, 2015, 04:56:07 PM EST
         got a camera on my laptop, it is covered and taped up -NT - (boxley) - Nov. 3, 2015, 05:09:28 PM EST
         Pick your battles. - (Another Scott) - (12) - Nov. 3, 2015, 09:46:10 PM EST
             this was for a telephone interview - (lincoln) - (11) - Nov. 4, 2015, 10:34:42 AM EST
                 You're causing unnecessary problems for yourself. - (Another Scott) - (10) - Nov. 5, 2015, 08:56:31 PM EST
                     Re: You're causing unnecessary problems for yourself. - (lincoln) - (9) - Nov. 6, 2015, 10:33:03 AM EST
                         You're picking a tiny hill to die on. Your choice, but think about it some more. - (Another Scott) - (4) - Nov. 6, 2015, 10:39:22 AM EST
                             So translating your attitude - (lincoln) - (3) - Nov. 6, 2015, 10:49:06 AM EST
                                 If you're trying to interview - (malraux) - Nov. 6, 2015, 10:57:23 AM EST
                                 You want another machine? - (Another Scott) - Nov. 6, 2015, 11:02:13 AM EST
                                 I use the cheapest laptop available from walmart $239 or less usually an hp - (boxley) - Nov. 6, 2015, 12:00:24 PM EST
                         Re: You're causing unnecessary problems for yourself. - (pwhysall) - Nov. 6, 2015, 10:52:36 AM EST
                         You're not helping yourself getting your back up about this. - (hnick) - (1) - Nov. 6, 2015, 06:56:59 PM EST
                             Well said. Hang in there. -NT - (Another Scott) - Nov. 6, 2015, 09:59:55 PM EST
                         I use Skype. - (static) - Nov. 9, 2015, 03:39:22 AM EST
         Get both. - (pwhysall) - (38) - Nov. 4, 2015, 01:42:57 AM EST
             Really? How? - (lincoln) - (37) - Nov. 4, 2015, 10:36:16 AM EST
                 You're thinking as a "programmer", not a "developer" - (pwhysall) - (36) - Nov. 4, 2015, 11:30:55 AM EST
                     If you are doing Agile (or abortions thereoff) - (boxley) - (35) - Nov. 4, 2015, 12:14:46 PM EST
                         And releasing tons of buggy code, iteratively. -NT - (mmoffitt) - Nov. 4, 2015, 03:11:59 PM EST
                         I was doing all that years before - (lincoln) - (33) - Nov. 4, 2015, 04:59:47 PM EST
                             Re: I was doing all that years before - (pwhysall) - (32) - Nov. 4, 2015, 09:17:09 PM EST
                                 Re: I was doing all that years before - (lincoln) - (13) - Nov. 5, 2015, 09:37:28 AM EST
                                     Re: I was doing all that years before - (malraux) - (5) - Nov. 5, 2015, 09:52:08 AM EST
                                         Re: I was doing all that years before - (lincoln) - (4) - Nov. 5, 2015, 04:19:09 PM EST
                                             Development is more than just the code - (pwhysall) - (2) - Nov. 5, 2015, 07:05:39 PM EST
                                                 How often do you attend these meetings - (lincoln) - (1) - Nov. 6, 2015, 10:36:31 AM EST
                                                     Stop right there. - (pwhysall) - Nov. 6, 2015, 10:46:33 AM EST
                                             Because being a developer requires communication. - (malraux) - Nov. 5, 2015, 10:39:10 PM EST
                                     Oh, I'm pretty sure - (pwhysall) - (5) - Nov. 5, 2015, 10:01:11 AM EST
                                         I would never hire you - (lincoln) - (4) - Nov. 5, 2015, 04:16:51 PM EST
                                             Re: I would never hire you - (pwhysall) - (3) - Nov. 5, 2015, 06:57:39 PM EST
                                                 Amen to that. - (malraux) - (2) - Nov. 5, 2015, 11:37:17 PM EST
                                                     same in my current shop, I can train anyone to do this - (boxley) - (1) - Nov. 5, 2015, 10:50:16 PM EST
                                                         Yep. -NT - (malraux) - Nov. 6, 2015, 09:17:13 AM EST
                                     several places I have worked at required me to supply my laptop - (boxley) - Nov. 5, 2015, 11:51:40 AM EST
                                 I am amazed it took this long into the thread - (crazy) - (17) - Nov. 6, 2015, 08:52:36 PM EST
                                     It went over my head. - (Another Scott) - (2) - Nov. 6, 2015, 09:59:00 PM EST
                                         Nope, it's pretty offensive. -NT - (malraux) - Nov. 6, 2015, 10:58:51 PM EST
                                         Christ! Me, too. Completely missed it. Thought it was a reference to "dot Net" -NT - (mmoffitt) - Nov. 7, 2015, 03:37:13 PM EST
                                     "This long into the thread" - (malraux) - Nov. 6, 2015, 11:00:48 PM EST
                                     The "dothead" escaped me - (pwhysall) - (12) - Nov. 7, 2015, 03:01:17 AM EST
                                         Makes sense - (crazy) - (11) - Nov. 7, 2015, 09:08:25 AM EST
                                             Either that or ... - (drook) - (10) - Nov. 7, 2015, 09:32:57 AM EST
                                                 There was a band that took their name from it - (pwhysall) - (3) - Nov. 7, 2015, 10:52:40 AM EST
                                                     What's their point? - (drook) - (2) - Nov. 7, 2015, 01:41:36 PM EST
                                                         Dunno, tbh. -NT - (pwhysall) - Nov. 7, 2015, 02:21:27 PM EST
                                                         Re: Does Sri Lanka have some great reputation? - (a6l6e6x) - Nov. 7, 2015, 04:18:49 PM EST
                                                 I've heard this one, too. - (mmoffitt) - Nov. 7, 2015, 03:38:16 PM EST
                                                 It is nowadays, and his name is Apu. - (CRConrad) - (4) - May 1, 2017, 06:14:53 PM EDT
                                                     What a strange thread to reappear in... - (Another Scott) - (3) - May 2, 2017, 12:53:41 AM EDT
                                                         It has its own logic. - (CRConrad) - (1) - May 2, 2017, 01:39:39 AM EDT
                                                             A quite Jungian synchronicity, too - (Ashton) - May 2, 2017, 11:37:40 PM EDT
                                                         Re: Howdy, stranger! - (a6l6e6x) - May 2, 2017, 01:13:23 PM EDT

And now you see that Evil will always win, because Good is stupid.
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