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New Development is more than just the code
It's about participation in regular and frequent meetings - both with the whole team and subsections thereof. A meeting can be anything from the daily stand-up to three people getting together to talk through a problem. These meetings are often held electronically even if the people are in the same office, because using (say) Lync makes it trivially easy to share your screen and pass control to someone, which is much better than having them dictate or explain something - they can just go right ahead and do it.

Developers regularly present - from technical "My fix to $bigproblem. Here's the code, let's walk through it" presentations, to actual PowerPoint slides presenting business cases for new gear, tools, whatever. Again, the tools facilitate this.
New How often do you attend these meetings
from home, after hours, using your own personal computer? Isn't your employer part of the 21st Century, where they give you a laptop with all of their software pre-installed, that they expect you to take home and use on their premises, to do your job? And if there's a problem with it, aren't they responsible for fixing their property?

If not, why are you working for a Ludditte company?




Satan (impatiently) to Newcomer: The trouble with you Chicago people is, that you think you are the best people down here; whereas you are merely the most numerous.
- - - Mark Twain, "Pudd'nhead Wilson's New Calendar" 1897
New Stop right there.
Staaaaaaahp.

I'm not asking your opinion, here. I'm telling you how it is, in a company that employs a lot of developers. I'm telling you what you'd need to be able to do and talk about just to be able to get an interview.

I work in biz dev, but I'm often involved in interviews because I'm a people person, and exactly because I'm not inclined to get into the minutiae of technical matters. I've been here a long time and I know who's going to fit and who isn't.

So you can dismiss my experience and opinion, because I'm not a developer, irrespective of my input into the hiring process.

On the other hand, Scott A is 100% exactly what you're trying to be and do; further, he's the guy who'd be interviewing you and making the final hire/no hire decision. And he's saying the exact same things that I am.

You're pissing into the wind. Unsurprisingly, this is resulting in you being covered in piss.
     Just got bitched at by a dothead recruiter - (lincoln) - (53)
         got a camera on my laptop, it is covered and taped up -NT - (boxley)
         Pick your battles. - (Another Scott) - (12)
             this was for a telephone interview - (lincoln) - (11)
                 You're causing unnecessary problems for yourself. - (Another Scott) - (10)
                     Re: You're causing unnecessary problems for yourself. - (lincoln) - (9)
                         You're picking a tiny hill to die on. Your choice, but think about it some more. - (Another Scott) - (4)
                             So translating your attitude - (lincoln) - (3)
                                 If you're trying to interview - (malraux)
                                 You want another machine? - (Another Scott)
                                 I use the cheapest laptop available from walmart $239 or less usually an hp - (boxley)
                         Re: You're causing unnecessary problems for yourself. - (pwhysall)
                         You're not helping yourself getting your back up about this. - (hnick) - (1)
                             Well said. Hang in there. -NT - (Another Scott)
                         I use Skype. - (static)
         Get both. - (pwhysall) - (38)
             Really? How? - (lincoln) - (37)
                 You're thinking as a "programmer", not a "developer" - (pwhysall) - (36)
                     If you are doing Agile (or abortions thereoff) - (boxley) - (35)
                         And releasing tons of buggy code, iteratively. -NT - (mmoffitt)
                         I was doing all that years before - (lincoln) - (33)
                             Re: I was doing all that years before - (pwhysall) - (32)
                                 Re: I was doing all that years before - (lincoln) - (13)
                                     Re: I was doing all that years before - (malraux) - (5)
                                         Re: I was doing all that years before - (lincoln) - (4)
                                             Development is more than just the code - (pwhysall) - (2)
                                                 How often do you attend these meetings - (lincoln) - (1)
                                                     Stop right there. - (pwhysall)
                                             Because being a developer requires communication. - (malraux)
                                     Oh, I'm pretty sure - (pwhysall) - (5)
                                         I would never hire you - (lincoln) - (4)
                                             Re: I would never hire you - (pwhysall) - (3)
                                                 Amen to that. - (malraux) - (2)
                                                     same in my current shop, I can train anyone to do this - (boxley) - (1)
                                                         Yep. -NT - (malraux)
                                     several places I have worked at required me to supply my laptop - (boxley)
                                 I am amazed it took this long into the thread - (crazy) - (17)
                                     It went over my head. - (Another Scott) - (2)
                                         Nope, it's pretty offensive. -NT - (malraux)
                                         Christ! Me, too. Completely missed it. Thought it was a reference to "dot Net" -NT - (mmoffitt)
                                     "This long into the thread" - (malraux)
                                     The "dothead" escaped me - (pwhysall) - (12)
                                         Makes sense - (crazy) - (11)
                                             Either that or ... - (drook) - (10)
                                                 There was a band that took their name from it - (pwhysall) - (3)
                                                     What's their point? - (drook) - (2)
                                                         Dunno, tbh. -NT - (pwhysall)
                                                         Re: Does Sri Lanka have some great reputation? - (a6l6e6x)
                                                 I've heard this one, too. - (mmoffitt)
                                                 It is nowadays, and his name is Apu. - (CRConrad) - (4)
                                                     What a strange thread to reappear in... - (Another Scott) - (3)
                                                         It has its own logic. - (CRConrad) - (1)
                                                             A quite Jungian synchronicity, too - (Ashton)
                                                         Re: Howdy, stranger! - (a6l6e6x)

Back in my day, if we needed directions we had to slaughter a goat and wiggle the intestines!
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