Re: I would never hire you

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Post #406,004 by pwhysall 11/5/15 6:57:39 PM Reply	Re: I would never hire you I hope someday top have my own business so I can hire you Uh huh. And really, is this the way you engage with people who are giving you actual practical free advice about how to fix the shitty situation you're in? Like Scott said: your attitude stinks. And that will shine out of you at interview. You might think that that's a load of touchy-feely bollocks, and that's your right, but hiring managers are people like me and we're well into the touchy-feely bollocks, because it doesn't matter how good you are: hiring an asshole onto the team just isn't worth it.
Post #406,014 by malraux 11/5/15 10:43:44 PM 11/5/15 11:37:17 PM Reply	Amen to that. I've worked with assholes who were extremely prolific developers. They create a poisonous atmosphere and the added productivity is not worth the trouble at all because everyone else's suffers. At my current place the biggest part of the interview is team fit. It's extremely important. Someone who's going to whine about everything isn't going to pass that filter. Regards, -scott Welcome to Rivendell, Mr. Anderson. Edited by malraux Nov. 5, 2015, 11:37:17 PM EST Expand All History
Post #406,016 by boxley 11/5/15 10:50:16 PM Reply	same in my current shop, I can train anyone to do this What I don't need is someone who thinks, that is not my job description Why do I have to do this instead of (x,y,z) it doesn't work the way I expect it to so down tools If my supervisor didn't tell me to do it I don't have to you only do your assigned work with no thinking about how to make it all better All of the above are valid issues but you won't be working long on my crew. you can kill people for America at age 18 but need to be 21 to buy a beer
Post #406,035 by malraux 11/6/15 9:17:13 AM Reply	Yep. Regards, -scott Welcome to Rivendell, Mr. Anderson.

Just got bitched at by a dothead recruiter - (lincoln) - (53) - Nov. 3, 2015, 04:56:07 PM EST

got a camera on my laptop, it is covered and taped up -NT - (boxley) - Nov. 3, 2015, 05:09:28 PM EST

Pick your battles. - (Another Scott) - (12) - Nov. 3, 2015, 09:46:10 PM EST

this was for a telephone interview - (lincoln) - (11) - Nov. 4, 2015, 10:34:42 AM EST

You're causing unnecessary problems for yourself. - (Another Scott) - (10) - Nov. 5, 2015, 08:56:31 PM EST

Re: You're causing unnecessary problems for yourself. - (lincoln) - (9) - Nov. 6, 2015, 10:33:03 AM EST

You're picking a tiny hill to die on. Your choice, but think about it some more. - (Another Scott) - (4) - Nov. 6, 2015, 10:39:22 AM EST

So translating your attitude - (lincoln) - (3) - Nov. 6, 2015, 10:49:06 AM EST

If you're trying to interview - (malraux) - Nov. 6, 2015, 10:57:23 AM EST

You want another machine? - (Another Scott) - Nov. 6, 2015, 11:02:13 AM EST

I use the cheapest laptop available from walmart $239 or less usually an hp - (boxley) - Nov. 6, 2015, 12:00:24 PM EST

Re: You're causing unnecessary problems for yourself. - (pwhysall) - Nov. 6, 2015, 10:52:36 AM EST

You're not helping yourself getting your back up about this. - (hnick) - (1) - Nov. 6, 2015, 06:56:59 PM EST

Well said. Hang in there. -NT - (Another Scott) - Nov. 6, 2015, 09:59:55 PM EST

I use Skype. - (static) - Nov. 9, 2015, 03:39:22 AM EST

Get both. - (pwhysall) - (38) - Nov. 4, 2015, 01:42:57 AM EST

Really? How? - (lincoln) - (37) - Nov. 4, 2015, 10:36:16 AM EST

You're thinking as a "programmer", not a "developer" - (pwhysall) - (36) - Nov. 4, 2015, 11:30:55 AM EST

If you are doing Agile (or abortions thereoff) - (boxley) - (35) - Nov. 4, 2015, 12:14:46 PM EST

And releasing tons of buggy code, iteratively. -NT - (mmoffitt) - Nov. 4, 2015, 03:11:59 PM EST

I was doing all that years before - (lincoln) - (33) - Nov. 4, 2015, 04:59:47 PM EST

Re: I was doing all that years before - (pwhysall) - (32) - Nov. 4, 2015, 09:17:09 PM EST

Re: I was doing all that years before - (lincoln) - (13) - Nov. 5, 2015, 09:37:28 AM EST

Re: I was doing all that years before - (malraux) - (5) - Nov. 5, 2015, 09:52:08 AM EST

Re: I was doing all that years before - (lincoln) - (4) - Nov. 5, 2015, 04:19:09 PM EST

Development is more than just the code - (pwhysall) - (2) - Nov. 5, 2015, 07:05:39 PM EST

How often do you attend these meetings - (lincoln) - (1) - Nov. 6, 2015, 10:36:31 AM EST

Stop right there. - (pwhysall) - Nov. 6, 2015, 10:46:33 AM EST

Because being a developer requires communication. - (malraux) - Nov. 5, 2015, 10:39:10 PM EST

Oh, I'm pretty sure - (pwhysall) - (5) - Nov. 5, 2015, 10:01:11 AM EST

I would never hire you - (lincoln) - (4) - Nov. 5, 2015, 04:16:51 PM EST

Re: I would never hire you - (pwhysall) - (3) - Nov. 5, 2015, 06:57:39 PM EST

Amen to that. - (malraux) - (2) - Nov. 5, 2015, 11:37:17 PM EST

same in my current shop, I can train anyone to do this - (boxley) - (1) - Nov. 5, 2015, 10:50:16 PM EST

Yep. -NT - (malraux) - Nov. 6, 2015, 09:17:13 AM EST

several places I have worked at required me to supply my laptop - (boxley) - Nov. 5, 2015, 11:51:40 AM EST

I am amazed it took this long into the thread - (crazy) - (17) - Nov. 6, 2015, 08:52:36 PM EST

It went over my head. - (Another Scott) - (2) - Nov. 6, 2015, 09:59:00 PM EST

Nope, it's pretty offensive. -NT - (malraux) - Nov. 6, 2015, 10:58:51 PM EST

Christ! Me, too. Completely missed it. Thought it was a reference to "dot Net" -NT - (mmoffitt) - Nov. 7, 2015, 03:37:13 PM EST

"This long into the thread" - (malraux) - Nov. 6, 2015, 11:00:48 PM EST

The "dothead" escaped me - (pwhysall) - (12) - Nov. 7, 2015, 03:01:17 AM EST

Makes sense - (crazy) - (11) - Nov. 7, 2015, 09:08:25 AM EST

Either that or ... - (drook) - (10) - Nov. 7, 2015, 09:32:57 AM EST

There was a band that took their name from it - (pwhysall) - (3) - Nov. 7, 2015, 10:52:40 AM EST

What's their point? - (drook) - (2) - Nov. 7, 2015, 01:41:36 PM EST

Dunno, tbh. -NT - (pwhysall) - Nov. 7, 2015, 02:21:27 PM EST

Re: Does Sri Lanka have some great reputation? - (a6l6e6x) - Nov. 7, 2015, 04:18:49 PM EST

I've heard this one, too. - (mmoffitt) - Nov. 7, 2015, 03:38:16 PM EST

It is nowadays, and his name is Apu. - (CRConrad) - (4) - May 1, 2017, 06:14:53 PM EDT

What a strange thread to reappear in... - (Another Scott) - (3) - May 2, 2017, 12:53:41 AM EDT

It has its own logic. - (CRConrad) - (1) - May 2, 2017, 01:39:39 AM EDT

A quite Jungian synchronicity, too - (Ashton) - May 2, 2017, 11:37:40 PM EDT

Re: Howdy, stranger! - (a6l6e6x) - May 2, 2017, 01:13:23 PM EDT

Indigenous life must be in agreement.
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