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Post #295,343 by Andrew Grygus 10/30/07 3:07:14 AM 10/30/07 10:04:12 AM Reply	Working now. All you have to do to install OpenOffice on Warp 4 is:\r\n \r\n Purchase a support contract for OpenOffice 2.0.4 from Mensys and download the install package. \r\n Start with a properly working OS/2 system. \r\n Install Fixpack 15 from the BMT Micro Fixpack CD. \r\n Install TCP/IP, Peer and MPTN updates from the BMT Micro Fixpack 15 CD. \r\n Install Netscape Communicator 4.6 from the BMT Micro Fixpack 15 CD. \r\n Find, download and install the IBM Feature Installer v1.25. \r\n Install the Java 1.1.8 Runtime from the BMT Micro Fixpack 15 CD - later Java versions won't work for this install. \r\n Get and install MPTN updates and protocol stacks from the TCP/IP v4.3 install package (TCP/IP stack v6.00). \r\n Get and install the TCP/IP 4.3 applications package so you can configure the stack. \r\n Reconfigure TCP/IP routing. Remove all three lines from the routing table from the earlier TCP/IP version, reboot, enter only a default route in the table and reboot. \r\n Find, download and install the Fixpack 16 kernel v14.104a and boot loader (not an IBM release). \r\n Download and unzip the LVM package from Serenity Systems. Copy LVM.DLL \r\nto \\OS2\\DLL. \r\n Install the InnoTek WarpIn installer. \r\n You might as well install the latest Innotek Runtime package and the Windows version of Adobe Acrobat Reader 5.1 since you know you'll need them. \r\n Install the latest InnoTek Font Package Beta. \r\n Using WarpIn install netlabs' UniClip. \r\n Using WarpIn install netlabs' LibC 0.6.2. \r\n Using WarpIn install OpenOffice 2.0.4. \r\n Install FireFox 2.0.0.4 or later so you don't have to use that antique Netscape Navigator. \r\n Optional: install the InnoTek Java 1.4 package if you are going to use Java and need something better than 1.1.8. \r\n \r\nSpecial note for DOS programs - if you go beyond Fixpack 12 be sure both DOS_High and DOS_UMB are enabled or DOS network performance will suck rocks.\r\n\r\n And while we're on OpenOffice, the modified Windows OpenOffice is supposed to run reasonably stable under InnoTek's runtime package. In my tests it installs fine (be sure to quote the parameter string on your icon properties - they don't tell you that). Strangely, it seemed to work quite well loading editing and saving Microosft Word and Excel documents but if you tried to save in OpenOffice or ODF formats it'd blow every time. Attempting to use the Options setting table would also blow it out of the water. Rather limited usefulness. [link\|http://www.aaxnet.com\|AAx] Edited by Andrew Grygus Oct. 30, 2007, 10:04:12 AM EDT Working now. All you have to do to install OpenOffice on Warp 4 is: Purchase a support contract for OpenOffice 2.0.4 from Mensys and download the install package. Start with a properly working OS/2 system. Install Fixpack 15 from the BMT Micro Fixpack CD. Install TCP/IP, Peer and MPTN updates from the BMT Micro Fixpack 15 CD. Install Netscape Communicator 4.6 from the BMT Micro Fixpack 15 CD. Find, download and install the IBM Feature Installer v1.25. Install the Java 1.1.8 Runtime from the BMT Micro Fixpack 15 CD - later Java versions won't work for this install. Get and install MPTN updates and protocol stacks from the TCP/IP v4.3 install package (TCP/IP stack v6.00). Get and install the TCP/IP 4.3 applications package so you can configure the stack. Reconfigure TCP/IP routing. Remove all three lines from the routing table from the earlier TCP/IP version, reboot, enter only a default route in the table and reboot. Find, download and install the Fixpack 16 kernel v14.104a and boot loader (not an IBM release). Install the InnoTek WarpIn installer. You might as well install the latest Innotek Runtime package and the Windows version of Adobe Acrobat Reader 5.1 since you know you'll need them. Install the latest InnoTek Font Package Beta. Using WarpIn install netlabs' UniClip. Using WarpIn install netlabs' LibC 0.6.2. Using WarpIn install OpenOffice 2.0.4. Install FireFox 2.0.0.4 or later so you don't have to use that antique Netscape Navigator. Optional: install the InnoTek Java 1.4 package if you are going to use Java and need something better than 1.1.8. Special note for DOS programs - if you go beyond Fixpack 12 be sure both DOS_High and DOS_UMB are enabled or DOS network performance will suck rocks. And while we're on OpenOffice, the modified Windows OpenOffice is supposed to run reasonably stable under InnoTek's runtime package. In my tests it installs fine (be sure to quote the parameter string on your icon properties - they don't tell you that). Strangely, it seemed to work quite well loading editing and saving Microosft Word and Excel documents but if you tried to save in OpenOffice or ODF formats it'd blow every time. Attempting to use the Options setting table would also blow it out of the water. Rather limited usefulness. [link\|http://www.aaxnet.com\|AAx] Collapse All History
Post #295,346 by CRConrad 10/30/07 6:37:09 AM Reply	Oh, so it was that easy? Then WTH took you so long? ;-)
Post #295,354 by Another Scott 10/30/07 7:24:35 AM Reply	It's a good thing you get paid by the hour, isn't it? ;-) I trust you've burned the successful installation tree to a bootable CD? What a nightmare. You're a better man than me, AG. Glad you got it working! Cheers, Scott.
Post #295,363 by boxley 10/30/07 7:40:07 AM Reply	on jobs like that you never bill all yer hours or you wont be invited back. When I had my own shop my motto was If I cant fix it I dont get paid and any extensive research would be billed patially depending on the complexity. thanx, bill Quantum materiae materietur marmota monax si marmota monax materiam possit materiari? Any opinions expressed by me are mine alone, posted from my home computer, on my own time as a free american and do not reflect the opinions of any person or company that I have had professional relations with in the past 51 years. meep reach me at [link\|mailto:bill.oxley@cox.net\|mailto:bill.oxley@cox.net]
Post #295,368 by jbrabeck 10/30/07 8:20:22 AM Reply	Concur Same motto/experience. You can never accurately estimate the time for something like that. And if you did, the client would never accept it. Chomp chomp. Eat those extra hours... A positive attitude may not solve all your problems, but it will annoy enough people to make it worth the effort. (Herm Albright)
Post #295,369 by crazy 10/30/07 8:20:41 AM Reply	Depends You want what? By when!?!? I have no idea how to do it, and the knowledge gained is very specific to your company, so any educational time will be dedicated to you. Plus, I'm tired, I have a bunch of stuff to do, and all them have near term deliverables. So, I'll probably be making mistakes as I learn and I'll still be charging you to fix the mistakes. It'll cost, probably a lot. How much? No idea, like I said, I have to figure out how to do it. Ok, but when you get the bill in 2 weeks, I want to you to look at this email where I warned you it'll cost a lot. Do it? Ok! 2 weeks later, HIS boss calls me about the bill. WTF - Are you crazy? (yup). Look at these hours! And I see you even billed us for redo work! You never bill us for redo! Me: Please refer to the original email, BUT 1: If you feel it is excessive, I'll discount 30% of the bill to cover education and redo, BUT 2: Do not expect any quick turnaround commitments ever again. Him: Paid in full.
Post #295,381 by Andrew Grygus 10/30/07 10:12:35 AM Reply	Yup, they'll get billed for some development time . . . . . but by no means all of it. Now that I understand the routing problem I might be able to make it work with just the TCP/IP stack downloaded from IBM. Don't know if I'll get around to trying that though. The way IBM set up routing on the 16-bit TCP/IP stack was a kludge to get around a problem. With the 32-bit stack apparently they fixed the real problem so the kludge became a problem. [link\|http://www.aaxnet.com\|AAx]

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