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New on jobs like that you never bill all yer hours
or you wont be invited back. When I had my own shop my motto was If I cant fix it I dont get paid and any extensive research would be billed patially depending on the complexity.
thanx,
bill
Quantum materiae materietur marmota monax si marmota monax materiam possit materiari?
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New Concur
Same motto/experience. You can never accurately estimate the time for something like that. And if you did, the client would never accept it.

Chomp chomp. Eat those extra hours...
A positive attitude may not solve all your problems, but it will annoy enough people to make it worth the effort. (Herm Albright)
New Depends
You want what? By when!?!?
I have no idea how to do it, and the knowledge gained is very specific to your company, so any educational time will be dedicated to you.
Plus, I'm tired, I have a bunch of stuff to do, and all them have near term deliverables. So, I'll probably be making mistakes as I learn and I'll still be charging you to fix the mistakes.
It'll cost, probably a lot.
How much?
No idea, like I said, I have to figure out how to do it.
Ok, but when you get the bill in 2 weeks, I want to you to look at this email where I warned you it'll cost a lot.
Do it?
Ok!

2 weeks later, HIS boss calls me about the bill.
WTF - Are you crazy? (yup).
Look at these hours!
And I see you even billed us for redo work! You never bill us for redo!

Me: Please refer to the original email,
BUT 1: If you feel it is excessive, I'll discount 30% of the bill to cover education and redo,
BUT 2: Do not expect any quick turnaround commitments ever again.

Him: Paid in full.
New Yup, they'll get billed for some development time . . .
. . but by no means all of it.

Now that I understand the routing problem I might be able to make it work with just the TCP/IP stack downloaded from IBM. Don't know if I'll get around to trying that though.

The way IBM set up routing on the 16-bit TCP/IP stack was a kludge to get around a problem. With the 32-bit stack apparently they fixed the real problem so the kludge became a problem.
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     The horrors of Open Office - (Andrew Grygus) - (23)
         What a nightmare. - (Another Scott) - (5)
             No, it's not to be found there. - (Andrew Grygus) - (4)
                 What version of TCP/IP stack? -NT - (n3jja) - (3)
                     The stack isn't the problem part . . . - (Andrew Grygus) - (2)
                         check your email to continue discussion. ;-) -NT - (n3jja) - (1)
                             Reply sent. -NT - (Andrew Grygus)
         why on earth is an office tool tied to an IP stack? -NT - (boxley) - (9)
             Ain't got a clue . . . - (Andrew Grygus) - (1)
                 hmmm, any way to make it think that it found it? - (boxley)
             That's what *she* said :-D -NT - (imqwerky)
             Why on earth is an office tied to OS/2? ;) -NT - (Meerkat) - (5)
                 Because . . . - (Andrew Grygus) - (4)
                     Could you drop a nix server in? - (bepatient) - (3)
                         He already has a Linux server . . . - (Andrew Grygus) - (2)
                             Can't be any more complicated than this problem :-) -NT - (bepatient)
                             Hoblink is not bad at all for that. - (jake123)
         Working now. - (Andrew Grygus) - (6)
             Oh, so it was that easy? Then WTH took you so long? -NT - (CRConrad)
             It's a good thing you get paid by the hour, isn't it? ;-) - (Another Scott) - (4)
                 on jobs like that you never bill all yer hours - (boxley) - (3)
                     Concur - (jbrabeck)
                     Depends - (crazy)
                     Yup, they'll get billed for some development time . . . - (Andrew Grygus)

Well, from then on, we had a whale of a time. I took her to dinner, I took her to dance. I bought her a bouquet of flounders. And then I went home with her. And what did I get for my trouble? A case of the clams.
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