Post #288,218
7/3/07 1:34:37 AM
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Incorrect.
HTML provides semantic markup so that, say, H1 elements could be SHOUTED to the user via a speech interface, for example.
A markup wordprocessor puts THIS text at THIS place in THIS font with no variation of size, type or style from that specified by the designer. Changing any aspect of this requires changing the source document. You'll notice that web pages created in this manner are pretty much always rubbish once you zoom the text, for example, or turn images off.
And "politically correct"? Tired phrase used to describe "things I don't agree with", IMHO.
CSS? It's the future, baby. The geeks (as you so charmingly put it, which is ironic, considering that you're a professional one) have won, on that score.
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Post #288,229
7/3/07 9:26:51 AM
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CSS sucks for table-like things, though.
Or columns, or similar. YUI has a decent implementation of columnar stuffs via CSS, but you have to drink their Kool-Aid.
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Post #288,241
7/3/07 10:47:35 AM
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I think you're unfamiliar with the days . . .
. . of dot and daisy printers. They couldn't do just any font pitch or point. The printing module (equivalent to the browser) would reformat the page, following the mark-up instructions as best it could, for the particular capabilities of the printer (equivalent to "user") it was sent to.
Keep in mind that html was extracted from a full function page layout mark-up language, sgml. When you cut a rhino in half you get half a rhino, not a giraffe. I'm saying they did a good job with the back half of the rhino but needed to include a little more of the front. You're saying that's irrelevant because it's a giraffe now.
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Post #288,248
7/3/07 11:04:09 AM
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Eye Sea Elle ARRRR Peedee. (new thread)
Created as new thread #288247 titled [link|/forums/render/content/show?contentid=288247|Eye Sea Elle ARRRR Peedee.]
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Post #288,260
7/3/07 4:17:18 PM
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Jeez.. I think you just described
..what happened to our 'National Honor'
Only, maybe that was more like a Puffer fish that got grafted to a gnat
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Post #288,300
7/4/07 1:35:17 PM
7/4/07 1:39:21 PM
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SGML isn't a layout language.
LaTeX, now that's a layout language.
SGML just provides a framework for marking things up.
ETA: No, I do remember those days. I had a Star LC-10 and then an LC24-10 (24 pins! Swanky! Could do proportional spacing!) and I drove them from a variety of software packages which you've never heard of, including View, WordWise, WordWise Plus and Impression Publisher II, running on hardware platforms you've never heard of, including the BBC Micro, BBC Master, Acorn Archimedes and A5000.
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Edited by pwhysall
July 4, 2007, 01:39:21 PM EDT
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Post #288,316
7/4/07 11:20:00 PM
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Pretty cocky of you to think I wouldn't know any of those
Okay, I don't, but I mean, still ...
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Post #288,317
7/4/07 11:42:19 PM
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Well, I've heard of the BBC Micro and Acorn . . .
. . and even seen pictures of them, though never the machines in the flesh. The Brits have been quite unable to penetrate the U.S. market (the last abject failure was Tiny - apparently not realizing that Whopper is about as small as we go here).
It'll be interesting to see how Tesco (groceries) does in California. By all reports they're being extra careful about their marketing plan. Maybe I'll be able to snag some marrowfat peas before they go belly up (no I already have Marmite).
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Post #288,332
7/5/07 10:35:16 AM
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mmm, marrowfat peas.
Vegetable of champions.
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