Post #288,185
7/2/07 5:22:18 PM
7/2/07 5:24:37 PM
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I can dis it all I want . . .
. . because the EMACS derivatives I was using would run in just as little memory with an even easier to memorize command set - and could edit a half dozen documents at a time under CP/M-80. What'd I have in my S100 machine - 32k I think, and 8" floppy based - and it worked just fine.
The fact that expensive dedicated word processors were far worse is a weak excuse in my opinion.
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Post #288,186
7/2/07 5:31:38 PM
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Unresolvable, of course -
You deem the EMACS command set to be as easily grokked by the Utterly Nontechnical as ... WS.
(I'd agree re 'Patty' - but she was hardly an average 'typewriter-trained' office employee, nor was she intimidated by as-yet unfamiliar techno. Now about all those flashing 00:00:00s on all those Difficult-VCRs, then and almost-still: the pool from which typists were drawn... And Presyudents.)
Unresolvable by logical what-ifs, I wot.
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Post #288,200
7/2/07 6:50:35 PM
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Imagine using
Microsoft Word without a mouse. (Well anything Microsoft, really)
There would be a close approximation. Except Word would be less powerful and flexible.
What about data entry types that have every screen they type to memorized. I've seen them (in the days of serial terms) 10 screens ahead with input.
If you could realistically use Word without using a mouse, I'd imagine people would get far more done in a day. Though yes, the hand would cramp having to do a mind-meld grip to do some formatting options.
Ashton think about Wordperfect BEFORE the GUI came to be realistic. Legal secretaries knew it inside and out... not because it was easy to understand the key bindings... but because they were consistent enough to be able to be trained exceptionally well.
EMACS is very much the same kind of creature. Consistent, easily trainable (though I still don't use it) and very extensible. Extensible as much or as little as you want. Unlike Word.
You need to stop assuming there is a deviant plot to ANYTHING tech we here use. I use Linux, because I have the ability to make it my own and understand it. I could force you to use it and train you as well, rather than WindowsLITE or MAC*R*US, thereby causing you to stop assuming things.
Of course all assumptions are not what they appear to be, now, are they?
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Post #288,201
7/2/07 8:22:17 PM
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Crtl-F for forward, Ctrl-B for back . . .
. . Ctrl-D for delete - yep, real esoteric it is. And Ctrl-X for extended commands is just so much more difficult to comprehend than Ctrl-K.
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Post #288,203
7/2/07 8:41:27 PM
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upper case D to delete rest of line, lower case x to delete
character much better. EMACS makes a fine programming tool. vi is the best editor. Although I was partial to the editor that came with brown bag software... cant recall the name at the moment thanx, bill
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Post #288,212
7/2/07 9:11:05 PM
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Just further proof that using vi cripples the mind.
A modal (text vs. command) editor with case sensitive commands is an abomination on two counts.
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Post #288,221
7/3/07 2:16:59 AM
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"Electric Pen"?
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Post #288,238
7/3/07 10:28:43 AM
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I recall "Electric Pencil", but not "Pen"
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Post #288,265
7/3/07 4:58:44 PM
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Ah - got it!
It was [link|http://www.dans20thcenturyabandonware.com/text/sw-catalogs/software-catalog-dos-sw.txt|PC-Outline!]. Seems they [link|http://www.allbusiness.com/technology/computer-software/326731-1.html|sued Symantec for copyright infringement] too.
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Post #288,267
7/3/07 5:04:57 PM
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close, it was pc-write, good list!
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Post #288,275
7/3/07 8:03:42 PM
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I loved PC-Outline
Never found an Outliner that worked like it again.
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