I guess you did not...

Post #268,548 by Arkadiy 9/24/06 8:22:44 PM Reply	I guess you did not... "Devil" can mean many things, indeed. Do you think Chavez meant the cunning, slightly stupid, mostly harmless thing that Russians call "chert"? Or the noble Devil of Bulgakov? Or the guys who fart at sinners in Dante's Hell? No, I think he meant the exact thing he said, the thing you and a lot of other people say all the time: the US president is evil incarnate, obsessed with power, black with pride, happy to torture innocents everywhere for his rotten idea of fun. My point was, that's not something that one country has a right to say to another, not unless they expect to bomb and to get bombed tomorrow. ------ 179. I will not outsource core functions. -- [link\|http://omega.med.yale.edu/~pcy5/misc/overlord2.htm\|.]
Post #268,571 by rcareaga 9/24/06 11:44:25 PM Reply	Your point was... he meant the exact thing he said, the thing you and a lot of other people say all the time: the US president is evil incarnate, obsessed with power, black with pride, happy to torture innocents everywhere for his rotten idea of fun. My point was, that's not something that one country has a right to say to another, not unless they expect to bomb and to get bombed tomorrow And my point is that you have roughly paraphrased the conclusion that any decent human being, or even any head of state, might be forgiven for reaching after almost six years observing George Doubleyew Fucking Bush in power. Is it then unforgivable to speak truth to power? less-than cordially, Die Welt ist alles, was der Fall ist.
Post #268,671 by Arkadiy 9/25/06 8:23:03 PM Reply	It is unforgivable to speak truth in diplomacy Like I said, bomb and be bombed. You can still pretend you don't understand me. But I can't pretend that I believe you. ------ 179. I will not outsource core functions. -- [link\|http://omega.med.yale.edu/~pcy5/misc/overlord2.htm\|.]
Post #268,676 by rcareaga 9/25/06 8:43:37 PM Reply	Then I can't forgive you for not pretending Bombers en route. Take shelter. Die Welt ist alles, was der Fall ist.
Post #268,679 by Another Scott 9/25/06 9:02:03 PM Reply	Chavez has nothing to worry about from the US. The only slightly similar situation I can recall is what happened with Noriega in Panama. There's nothing in the [link\|http://www.globalsecurity.org/military/ops/just_cause.htm\|Operation Just Cause] timeline that yet matches what's going on in Venezuela. When Chavez declares war on the US and US personnel are killed, then Chavez will have something to worry about. I think you're misunderstanding Chavez. He isn't interested in diplomacy with the US. He's interested in being seen as someone who stands up to the US - for domestic and foreign attention. The US isn't going to attack him because he calls George names. That type of reaction in international relations went out several decades ago. Cheers, Scott.

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