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Post #264,397 by folkert 8/10/06 12:27:34 PM Reply	nano can edit files on remote machines... just not as pretty. But I believe its simplicity is a big plus. Basically it is reading a file into a new buffer, using the execute command from the read-file command But still at this point the peep needs something simple in character mode. -- [link\|mailto:greg@gregfolkert.net\|greg], [link\|http://www.iwethey.org/ed_curry\|REMEMBER ED CURRY!] @ *i_wethey* Freedom is not FREE. Yeah, but 10s of Trillions of US Dollars? SELECT * FROM scog WHERE ethics > 0; 0 rows returned.
Post #264,398 by admin 8/10/06 12:32:21 PM Reply	Emacs is as simple as you make it. "emacs somefile" <use arrow, page, home, end keys to move around> Type some stuff to put it in the file. C-x C-c to save and exit (That's the one key combo you have to learn, and even that could be rebound to F10 or something). If they know the bash keybindings, then they know a good portion of the basic Emacs bindings as well. The advantage of Emacs is that it grows with the user. It's a lot simpler for people to learn than vim if they are new to both (I've verified that here with QA people coming from Notepad to a Solaris environment). The modal nature of vi/vim kills newbies every time. Regards, -scott anderson "Welcome to Rivendell, Mr. Anderson..."
Post #264,406 by folkert 8/10/06 12:55:19 PM Reply	"Modal == teh sukc" for newbies, indeedly do. If I had to do it all over again, I'd choose emacs... everyday and twice on Sunday. The thing is, unlearning the bad habits vi/vim have taught me over the years would be very difficult. Its like learning to live with a chronic pain, you learn to love it after a while and define your life around and with it. -- [link\|mailto:greg@gregfolkert.net\|greg], [link\|http://www.iwethey.org/ed_curry\|REMEMBER ED CURRY!] @ *i_wethey* Freedom is not FREE. Yeah, but 10s of Trillions of US Dollars? SELECT * FROM scog WHERE ethics > 0; 0 rows returned.
Post #264,764 by static 8/14/06 1:10:34 AM Reply	What bad habits would they be? (new thread) Created as new thread #264763 titled [link\|/forums/render/content/show?contentid=264763\|What bad habits would they be?] "Insert crowbar. Apply force."

I am SCREWED - (broomberg) - (71) - Aug. 9, 2006, 11:28:33 PM EDT

:-( Get him a copy of UltraEdit. - (Another Scott) - (16) - Aug. 9, 2006, 11:44:53 PM EDT

UltraEdit is great - (cforde) - Aug. 10, 2006, 01:40:00 AM EDT

UE costs money. - (pwhysall) - (2) - Aug. 10, 2006, 08:11:17 AM EDT

OT: Shouldn't you be on your honeymoon? -NT - (Yendor) - (1) - Aug. 10, 2006, 08:40:50 AM EDT

he's gotta come up for air once in a while. ;-j -NT - (jbrabeck) - Aug. 11, 2006, 08:05:12 AM EDT

That is one of the current Win choices. - (broomberg) - (11) - Aug. 10, 2006, 11:14:10 AM EDT

nano? - (Another Scott) - (1) - Aug. 10, 2006, 11:22:57 AM EDT

Install requested - (broomberg) - Aug. 10, 2006, 01:28:26 PM EDT

I use nano as my default editor. - (folkert) - (8) - Aug. 10, 2006, 12:29:22 PM EDT

Hmmm - (broomberg) - (7) - Aug. 10, 2006, 01:41:08 PM EDT

No "undo" - (broomberg) - (5) - Aug. 10, 2006, 02:01:34 PM EDT

Try this - (drewk) - (2) - Aug. 10, 2006, 02:04:09 PM EDT

I've played with cream - (broomberg) - (1) - Aug. 10, 2006, 02:13:24 PM EDT

I won't respond to that post - (drewk) - Aug. 10, 2006, 02:14:05 PM EDT

Undo is only necessary for htose who make mistaeks. - (Another Scott) - (1) - Aug. 10, 2006, 02:18:43 PM EDT

You can force it to be the default - (folkert) - Aug. 10, 2006, 02:54:07 PM EDT

No, I use them all. I am not a programmer. - (folkert) - Aug. 10, 2006, 03:09:45 PM EDT

Never "learned" vi, eh? I like him already! - (jb4) - (50) - Aug. 10, 2006, 09:46:17 AM EDT

Sigh - (broomberg) - (49) - Aug. 10, 2006, 11:24:25 AM EDT

Well... - (jb4) - (37) - Aug. 10, 2006, 01:22:03 PM EDT

I think auto-complete is a macro - (drewk) - (36) - Aug. 10, 2006, 11:50:34 AM EDT

Depends on who you ask - (jb4) - (13) - Aug. 10, 2006, 01:23:37 PM EDT

So have them fix it - (broomberg) - (3) - Aug. 10, 2006, 01:42:41 PM EDT

Yeah...comma...right - (jb4) - (2) - Aug. 10, 2006, 02:08:21 PM EDT

Sigh - (broomberg) - (1) - Aug. 10, 2006, 02:16:44 PM EDT

I don't make large edits on these systems - (jb4) - Aug. 10, 2006, 03:50:03 PM EDT

Is vim the windows version of vi? - (Nightowl) - (8) - Aug. 11, 2006, 02:23:29 PM EDT

Nope, 'vim' is 'vi, improved' - (drewk) - (7) - Aug. 11, 2006, 02:35:10 PM EDT

I seem to have both kinds - (Nightowl) - (6) - Aug. 11, 2006, 02:50:41 PM EDT

If it has multiple levels of 'undo' it's probably vim -NT - (drewk) - (5) - Aug. 11, 2006, 02:55:26 PM EDT

Hmmm I only know of one undo command. - (Nightowl) - (4) - Aug. 11, 2006, 03:08:10 PM EDT

What's the command you use to start it? - (jake123) - (3) - Aug. 11, 2006, 07:37:30 PM EDT

vi :) - (Nightowl) - (2) - Aug. 12, 2006, 12:08:55 PM EDT

Of course vim can be aliased to "vi"... - (jb4) - (1) - Aug. 15, 2006, 03:08:41 PM EDT

Re: Of course vim can be aliased to "vi"... - (Nightowl) - Aug. 16, 2006, 02:32:36 AM EDT

Yes, I mean vim - (broomberg) - (21) - Aug. 10, 2006, 01:25:05 PM EDT

Was I right about that being a plugin? - (drewk) - (20) - Aug. 10, 2006, 01:35:37 PM EDT

No idea - (broomberg) - (19) - Aug. 10, 2006, 01:44:20 PM EDT

Hmm, gvim vs vim - (drewk) - (18) - Aug. 10, 2006, 02:02:46 PM EDT

I prefer gvim - (broomberg) - Aug. 10, 2006, 02:15:25 PM EDT

No law says you have to use a mouse and scroolbars - (jb4) - (16) - Aug. 10, 2006, 03:53:36 PM EDT

:7000<ENTER> or 7000G -NT - (broomberg) - (2) - Aug. 10, 2006, 04:59:30 PM EDT

But the day goes faster hitting Page Down 200x. ;-) -NT - (Another Scott) - Aug. 10, 2006, 05:01:30 PM EDT

Assuming, of course, that you know the target line... - (jb4) - Aug. 10, 2006, 05:07:21 PM EDT

No, that's not what I was going to say - (drewk) - (11) - Aug. 10, 2006, 05:20:44 PM EDT

I've seen enough of them. - (admin) - Aug. 10, 2006, 05:22:32 PM EDT

Here - (broomberg) - (7) - Aug. 10, 2006, 06:20:39 PM EDT

And the last time you needed to edit /etc/termcap was...? -NT - (Yendor) - (6) - Aug. 10, 2006, 06:34:12 PM EDT

About 21 years ago - (broomberg) - (5) - Aug. 10, 2006, 06:49:46 PM EDT

YPB -NT - (hnick) - (1) - Aug. 10, 2006, 07:00:14 PM EDT

Wasn't so bad. - (broomberg) - Aug. 10, 2006, 07:15:49 PM EDT

I think the term would be "pathological example" - (drewk) - Aug. 10, 2006, 05:05:33 PM EDT

Oops, time travelling on the reboot - (drewk) - Aug. 11, 2006, 10:25:23 AM EDT

No, really, that's what happened - (drewk) - Aug. 11, 2006, 10:25:48 AM EDT

10K lines? Pshaw. - (pwhysall) - (1) - Aug. 11, 2006, 03:01:08 AM EDT

Yes, I **did** know that. - (jb4) - Aug. 15, 2006, 03:10:51 PM EDT

That's what incremental search is for... -NT - (admin) - Aug. 10, 2006, 05:22:12 PM EDT

Emacs. - (admin) - (10) - Aug. 10, 2006, 11:50:13 AM EDT

You can do that in vi, too - (drewk) - (9) - Aug. 10, 2006, 11:54:26 AM EDT

I don't see that in the man page. - (admin) - (4) - Aug. 10, 2006, 12:26:49 PM EDT

Nope, it's a plugin - (drewk) - (3) - Aug. 10, 2006, 12:38:20 PM EDT

Looks somewhat similar - (admin) - (2) - Aug. 10, 2006, 12:44:37 PM EDT

Yeah, it's not as general-purpose - (drewk) - (1) - Aug. 10, 2006, 12:55:09 PM EDT

Right. - (admin) - Aug. 10, 2006, 12:57:19 PM EDT

nano can edit files on remote machines... - (folkert) - (3) - Aug. 10, 2006, 12:27:34 PM EDT

Emacs is as simple as you make it. - (admin) - (2) - Aug. 10, 2006, 12:32:21 PM EDT

"Modal == teh sukc" for newbies, indeedly do. - (folkert) - (1) - Aug. 10, 2006, 12:55:19 PM EDT

What bad habits would they be? (new thread) - (static) - Aug. 14, 2006, 01:10:34 AM EDT

why cant he use the xeditor on solaris? -NT - (boxley) - (1) - Aug. 10, 2006, 02:27:08 PM EDT

'X' - not character mode -NT - (broomberg) - Aug. 10, 2006, 05:02:43 PM EDT

Emacs with CUA Mode? - (altmann) - Aug. 10, 2006, 06:19:38 PM EDT

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