:-( Get him a copy of UltraEdit.

Post #264,342 by Another Scott 8/9/06 11:44:53 PM Reply	:-( Get him a copy of UltraEdit. [link\|http://www.ultraedit.com/index.php?name=Content&pa=showpage&pid=10\|UltraEdit]. He may love it. It has help for regex. He'll be in your debt... ;-) Hang in there. Cheers, Scott. (Satisfied customer, nothing more.)
Post #264,346 by cforde 8/10/06 1:40:00 AM Reply	UltraEdit is great if you want to avoid Windows, try nedit, or if Mac OS X is an option, try TextMate. Have fun, Carl Forde
Post #264,349 by pwhysall 8/10/06 8:11:17 AM Reply	UE costs money. SCiTE is free and Free. And it's tiny and fast and stuff. Peter [link\|http://www.no2id.net/\|Don't Let The Terrorists Win] [link\|http://www.kuro5hin.org\|There is no K5 Cabal] [link\|http://guildenstern.dyndns.org\|Home] Use P2P for legitimate purposes! [link\|http://kevan.org/brain.cgi?pwhysall\|A better terminal emulator]
Post #264,352 by Yendor 8/10/06 8:40:50 AM Reply	OT: Shouldn't you be on your honeymoon? -YendorMike "They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety." - Benjamin Franklin, 1759 Historical Review of Pennsylvania
Post #264,530 by jbrabeck 8/11/06 8:05:12 AM Reply	he's gotta come up for air once in a while. ;-j A positive attitude may not solve all your problems, but it will annoy enough people to make it worth the effort. (Herm Albright)
Post #264,378 by broomberg 8/10/06 11:14:10 AM Reply	That is one of the current Win choices. I need to come up with a Unix character mode editor that junior Perl programmers (Ex COBOL programmers) can use. Desire perl syntax highlighting.
Post #264,380 by Another Scott 8/10/06 11:22:57 AM Reply	nano? In my trying to set up [link\|http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=186747\|MythTV on Ubuntu 6.06] a few weeks ago, I found that the default Gnome editor wouldn't let me edit files I needed to change due to some permission issue, but nano worked fine. I was able to figure it out without reading any manual, so it's probably a good choice. It does [link\|http://wiki.linuxhelp.net/index.php/Nano_Syntax_Highlighting#Perl\|perl syntax highlighting too], with some configuration. HTH. Cheers, Scott. (Who had to quit for a while after fighting with getting IVTV working, step 5.2, and being unsuccessful...)
Post #264,417 by broomberg 8/10/06 1:28:26 PM Reply	Install requested Already on my Linux box, asked for them to put it on the Solaris.
Post #264,395 by folkert 8/10/06 12:23:32 PM 8/10/06 12:29:22 PM Reply	I use nano as my default editor. I don't consider it a bad editor at all. I use emacs and vi, but only if pico or nano aren't available. nano can help him graduate into vim, vi or emacs once he gets used to the PuTTY stuff and howto use it properly. And that syntax highlighting Katzer pointed out can be hugely extended. Also, on Debian and Ubuntu, /etc/nanorc has a lot of it already there just commented out. -- [link\|mailto:greg@gregfolkert.net\|greg], [link\|http://www.iwethey.org/ed_curry\|REMEMBER ED CURRY!] @ *i_wethey* Freedom is not FREE. Yeah, but 10s of Trillions of US Dollars? SELECT * FROM scog WHERE ethics > 0; 0 rows returned. Edited by folkert Aug. 10, 2006, 12:29:22 PM EDT Expand All History
Post #264,422 by broomberg 8/10/06 1:41:08 PM Reply	Hmmm Once a user is actively using as something as simple and easy as nano, I highly doubt they will move to another editor after that point. Just like you won't. No matter how productive the other editor is, the core incentive to move is not there, ie: they are accomplishing what they need to accomplish using the simple editor. I asked to have it put on the box so this one guy can at least work directly. But for people who are new to the environment, who claim to be programmers, who I have some responsibility for (career direction, education, management recommendations for what they should be doing in a few months) I'll give a choice. vim or eamcs. Choose one or the other. But if you choose emacs, I can't help you if you run into a problem. If the response is: Nah, that's too hard, I heard so-and-so say that this editor (nano) is much easier. I'll let them. But I'll also know that they don't really care about learning to best way to do something, they care about immediate gratification. And as time goes on, I'm sure the ones that choose vim or emacs will also be the ones who learn the best and produce the best, which is a virtuous cycle. Also, I LIKE modal. Sorry. And it's not baby chick, I've worked with many editors before I started using vi. Single character movement is the quickest, especially though laggy dial-up or network. And vi was designed to be the minimum number of keystrokes to type and transmit to do a given task.
Post #264,426 by broomberg 8/10/06 2:01:34 PM Reply	No "undo" What piece of crap.
Post #264,428 by drewk 8/10/06 2:04:09 PM Reply	Try this In the [link\|http://www.linux.com/article.pl?sid=05/08/24/145234\|list of plugins] I mentioned in the other post, there's a link to "cream", which is a vim targeted at new users. Might be worth a look. === Purveyor of Doc Hope's [link\|http://DocHope.com\|fresh-baked dog biscuits and pet treats]. [link\|http://DocHope.com\|http://DocHope.com]
Post #264,435 by broomberg 8/10/06 2:13:24 PM Reply	I've played with cream It is INCREDIBLY slow.
Post #264,436 by drewk 8/10/06 2:14:05 PM Reply	I won't respond to that post Mostly because I'm afraid to read whatever is under that subject line. === Purveyor of Doc Hope's [link\|http://DocHope.com\|fresh-baked dog biscuits and pet treats]. [link\|http://DocHope.com\|http://DocHope.com]
Post #264,439 by Another Scott 8/10/06 2:18:43 PM Reply	Undo is only necessary for htose who make mistaeks. I didn't know that nano had no undo. Oh well. For safety, one could enable the [link\|http://www.nano-editor.org/dist/v1.2/nano.html#SEC4\|-B flag] to make backups on saves. But yeah, it's not ideal. Cheers, Scott.
Post #264,445 by folkert 8/10/06 2:54:07 PM Reply	You can force it to be the default in `/etc/nanorc` ## Backup files to filename~.\nset backup -- [link\|mailto:greg@gregfolkert.net\|greg], [link\|http://www.iwethey.org/ed_curry\|REMEMBER ED CURRY!] @ *i_wethey* Freedom is not FREE. Yeah, but 10s of Trillions of US Dollars? SELECT * FROM scog WHERE ethics > 0; 0 rows returned.
Post #264,448 by folkert 8/10/06 3:09:45 PM Reply	No, I use them all. I am not a programmer. Though when I do bulk changes etc... I use a stream editior I could change. If I could gain 1 hour a day... I would have quite a long time ago. If I were a programmer, I'd have a MUCH different set of feelings. -- [link\|mailto:greg@gregfolkert.net\|greg], [link\|http://www.iwethey.org/ed_curry\|REMEMBER ED CURRY!] @ *i_wethey* Freedom is not FREE. Yeah, but 10s of Trillions of US Dollars? SELECT * FROM scog WHERE ethics > 0; 0 rows returned.

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