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Post #257,065
by bepatient
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5/29/06 12:52:31 PM
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New Um...
you have been reading me in this thread, right?

You can't.

The problem is that this inability is now being taken advantage of by the fringe who know that no matter what now (let me throw shit at religious artifacts...I'll call it art and they'll >have< to let me show it) they'll will be able to gain noteriety.

Its "shock art"...and the emphasis is on shock...cause I don't even think the folks making it think its art either. They're "making a statement".

And you know full well that I understand this as the "dark side" of freedom...and that its necessary to endure. I don't go, don't give it my money...vote with my feet.

Same with satellite radio. Stern went there. I will not. Again, voting with my feet.
If you push something hard enough, it will fall over. Fudd's First Law of Opposition

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Post #257,072
by imric
5/29/06 6:09:12 PM
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New ROFL... Come now, Beep!
I actually agree - but 'shock art' is a form of communication as well.

My point was that this whole 'tempest' was caused by our own 'private dick''s laying a background for censoring art (probably in the name of saving the cheeeldrun).
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As hopeless as it seems in the middle,
Or as finished as it seems in the end.
 
 
Post #257,073
by Andrew Grygus
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5/29/06 6:25:01 PM
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New Oh, come on now - 'Saving the Cheeeldrun' is . . .
. . so "Last Century". Surely there must be a way to link "art" and "objective beauty" to the pressing need for National Security.
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Post #257,074
by pwhysall
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5/29/06 6:35:41 PM
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New Here's how:
Art - appreciated by the loyal (I'm feeling uplifted just looking at it. Or I've got flatulence. One or t'other):

[image|http://www.skylinepictures.com/Freedo1.jpg||||]

Shit - viewers are terrorists and could do with a good arresting:

[image|http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/f/f4/The_Scream.jpg/463px-The_Scream.jpg||The work of a left-wing mentalist||]

Peter
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Post #257,191
by boxley
5/30/06 1:47:36 PM
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New why dont you like the picture of a labrador wearing a coat?
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Post #257,687
by Arkadiy
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6/4/06 12:28:30 PM
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New Gah! I've seen "Glory to CPSU"posters that were better made.

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     A declaration of humanism - (marlowe) - (67) - April 23, 2006, 03:43:54 PM EDT
         I don't hate humanity - (ben_tilly) - (1) - April 23, 2006, 04:06:36 PM EDT
             Oh, you're soooo intolerant. - (marlowe) - May 7, 2006, 06:40:40 PM EDT
         What I want to hear from you is . . . - (Andrew Grygus) - (1) - April 23, 2006, 05:36:42 PM EDT
             Your confusion of opinion with reality... - (marlowe) - May 7, 2006, 06:46:22 PM EDT
         Im glad you support legalizing drugs and prostitution - (boxley) - April 23, 2006, 05:40:29 PM EDT
         Fascist-humanist - (JayMehaffey) - (4) - April 23, 2006, 05:51:10 PM EDT
             There's a little thing called logic. - (marlowe) - (3) - May 7, 2006, 07:19:19 PM EDT
                 Then how - (JayMehaffey) - May 7, 2006, 08:06:28 PM EDT
                 Rules in society aren't black and white. - (Another Scott) - May 7, 2006, 08:47:57 PM EDT
                 You just heard of it? - (tuberculosis) - May 8, 2006, 07:23:17 PM EDT
         Zero grasp of basic economic theory - (tuberculosis) - April 24, 2006, 12:50:29 AM EDT
         Okay now I have more time to address your concerns - (boxley) - (52) - April 24, 2006, 03:00:03 AM EDT
             It was nice of you to do that - (bepatient) - (51) - April 24, 2006, 09:19:02 AM EDT
                 +5 Insightful - (jb4) - (1) - April 24, 2006, 01:58:09 PM EDT
                     I'm gonna say it again - (jake123) - April 24, 2006, 02:49:17 PM EDT
                 I don't know much about art... - (marlowe) - (48) - May 7, 2006, 06:44:42 PM EDT
                     Define objective. Define beauty. - (Another Scott) - (5) - May 7, 2006, 07:26:20 PM EDT
                         You really need "objective" defined for you? - (marlowe) - (4) - May 21, 2006, 06:29:26 PM EDT
                             Define "objective beauty". - (pwhysall) - (2) - May 21, 2006, 06:37:37 PM EDT
                                 Objective beauty == oxymoron - (jbrabeck) - (1) - May 21, 2006, 08:57:41 PM EDT
                                     I know that and you know that. - (pwhysall) - May 22, 2006, 03:09:50 AM EDT
                             you havnt answered why the people you date arnt objectively - (boxley) - May 22, 2006, 08:24:44 AM EDT
                     give me a break, look at the women(or men) you date - (boxley) - May 7, 2006, 07:51:39 PM EDT
                     I like motorway intersections, integrated circuits and fonts - (pwhysall) - May 8, 2006, 01:50:05 AM EDT
                     Don't know much about history... - (jb4) - May 8, 2006, 11:34:53 AM EDT
                     I don't think so, pal. - (bepatient) - (1) - May 10, 2006, 12:43:42 PM EDT
                         Who you callin' "sir"?!? - (jb4) - May 10, 2006, 02:12:25 PM EDT
                     Or anything else it seems -NT - (tuberculosis) - May 12, 2006, 03:48:23 AM EDT
                     I'm surprised at you - (GBert) - May 17, 2006, 11:06:05 AM EDT
                     Why does a humanist care about the madonna? -NT - (warmachine) - (1) - May 22, 2006, 02:47:20 AM EDT
                         why does anyone care about madonna? -NT - (boxley) - May 22, 2006, 08:25:30 AM EDT
                     Re: I don't know much about art... - (pwhysall) - (32) - May 22, 2006, 08:36:23 AM EDT
                         I, on the other hand, - (jbrabeck) - (7) - May 22, 2006, 09:57:04 AM EDT
                             Objective beauty of art? That's too easy! - (GBert) - (6) - May 22, 2006, 11:14:37 AM EDT
                                 And someone called *me* snarky -NT - (drewk) - (3) - May 22, 2006, 11:52:46 AM EDT
                                     Well, they were right... - (jb4) - (2) - May 22, 2006, 02:25:11 PM EDT
                                         How about "table-driven snarky"? OOP is a lie! -NT - (drewk) - (1) - May 22, 2006, 02:31:08 PM EDT
                                             Alright! Who stole Drew's ID and is holding it for ransom? -NT - (jb4) - May 22, 2006, 02:32:31 PM EDT
                                 Objective beauty is soviet era art with american flags -NT - (boxley) - (1) - May 22, 2006, 02:51:02 PM EDT
                                     I believe Rand has a nice collection of that -NT - (drewk) - May 22, 2006, 02:54:10 PM EDT
                         So, please, tell me. Is there such "thing" as beauty? - (Arkadiy) - (23) - May 27, 2006, 07:26:43 PM EDT
                             Point = missed. - (pwhysall) - (7) - May 28, 2006, 03:12:39 AM EDT
                                 Not really missed - (Arkadiy) - (1) - May 28, 2006, 11:17:27 AM EDT
                                     Yeah, you have. - (pwhysall) - May 28, 2006, 09:25:52 PM EDT
                                 I have to apologise here - (Arkadiy) - (4) - May 28, 2006, 11:59:35 AM EDT
                                     You're still missing the point - (pwhysall) - (1) - May 28, 2006, 09:23:24 PM EDT
                                         those pictures are loverly - (boxley) - May 30, 2006, 01:44:21 PM EDT
                                     The Pontiac Aztek has a face... - (jb4) - (1) - May 30, 2006, 01:08:15 PM EDT
                                         Grargh. - (pwhysall) - May 30, 2006, 02:07:24 PM EDT
                             Independent from the observer? No. - (bepatient) - (14) - May 28, 2006, 11:36:05 AM EDT
                                 I guess I have to agree - (Arkadiy) - (1) - May 28, 2006, 11:47:55 AM EDT
                                     And I with you - (bepatient) - May 28, 2006, 11:59:25 AM EDT
                                 s /Van Gogh/Rembrandt perhaps? -NT - (Another Scott) - (1) - May 28, 2006, 12:08:16 PM EDT
                                     Yeah...my bad. -NT - (bepatient) - May 28, 2006, 12:20:25 PM EDT
                                 Not I - (jbrabeck) - (9) - May 28, 2006, 02:03:07 PM EDT
                                     Its a huge painting - (bepatient) - (8) - May 28, 2006, 05:54:29 PM EDT
                                         Yabbut - (imric) - (7) - May 28, 2006, 06:31:51 PM EDT
                                             And we will burn that which fails the test! - (pwhysall) - May 28, 2006, 09:27:26 PM EDT
                                             Um... - (bepatient) - (5) - May 29, 2006, 12:52:31 PM EDT
                                                 ROFL... Come now, Beep! - (imric) - (4) - May 29, 2006, 06:09:12 PM EDT
                                                     Oh, come on now - 'Saving the Cheeeldrun' is . . . - (Andrew Grygus) - (3) - May 29, 2006, 06:25:01 PM EDT
                                                         Here's how: - (pwhysall) - (2) - May 29, 2006, 06:35:41 PM EDT
                                                             why dont you like the picture of a labrador wearing a coat? -NT - (boxley) - May 30, 2006, 01:47:36 PM EDT
                                                             Gah! I've seen "Glory to CPSU"posters that were better made. -NT - (Arkadiy) - June 4, 2006, 12:28:30 PM EDT
         Me too! Give me a break too! - (rcareaga) - (2) - May 7, 2006, 11:46:07 PM EDT
             For those of you who need a dictionary - (broomberg) - (1) - May 8, 2006, 12:01:30 AM EDT
                 Calumny! -NT - (pwhysall) - May 8, 2006, 01:46:51 AM EDT

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