Post #236,567
11/30/05 1:14:07 PM
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Peter, on this topic you are an idiot
You constantly assert that manual control is good because it makes you pay attention.
But it makes you pay attention to the wrong thing.
I'd prefer to have a driver going through turns etc with both hands on the steering wheel and full attention on the road to one who has one hand on the wheel, one on the stick, and attention divided between the road outside and the mechanics of shifting. Yes, I know that with a little practice you barely think about the process of shifting. But even so, during the shifting process you have significantly less control of the car than when you're not shifting.
Cheers,
Ben
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Post #236,574
11/30/05 1:29:57 PM
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This does rather remind me of Todd's many diatribes...
...on why (he thinks) C++ suxors....
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Post #236,576
11/30/05 1:32:59 PM
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Complete piffle.
In order to assess what gear you should be in at any given time, you have to plan ahead and pay close attention to your speed, the speed of the vehicles around you, the road conditions and any hazards in the vicinity.
An automatic frees you from this restriction.
I leave it to you whether this is a good, or a bad thing.
Peter
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Post #236,589
11/30/05 1:52:23 PM
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So what you're saying is...
that you prefer a manual because otherwise your concern for the optimal performance of your precious car won't force you to look around and pay attention to traffic?
Well when I'm driving, I'm going to look around and pay attention to traffic no matter what car I'm driving, because I like remaining alive! I don't need concern about nursemaiding my car to encourage me to do the right thing!
If this is an issue for you, then I likewise want you to drive a manual.
Cheers,
Ben
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Post #236,596
11/30/05 2:10:52 PM
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If you want to reframe what I said without reading it, yes.
Looking at traffic is fine, but you need to be aware of your own speed and ability to accelerate or stop relative to it. This is much easier to do in a manual, because you know what gear you're in and what your car can do in that gear. Or, you should. Driving an auto, I'm constantly looking at the dash to see what the fook the thing's going to do when I press the loud pedal, because it's up'n'down the box without my interference.
And if you think it's about "optimal performance" or "nursemaiding" then you're barking up the wrong strawmantree.
Peter
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Post #236,666
11/30/05 5:32:49 PM
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I read it
And I think that if you're driving in a way where you need to know your car's exact capabilities to succeed, then you're driving too aggressively.
Back off. Give some space.
Also I should note that with a modest amount of experience you can tell roughly how fast your car is going without relying on the speedometer or knowledge of what gear you are in. Not exactly, but close enough for normal driving conditions.
Cheers,
Ben
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Post #236,590
11/30/05 1:53:32 PM
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And I've already pointed out that people are different.
What may be an acceptable level of involvement for you may be completely overwhelming to someone else.
Regards,
-scott anderson
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Post #236,577
11/30/05 1:33:00 PM
11/30/05 1:39:13 PM
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Dupe
Peter
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Nov. 30, 2005, 01:39:13 PM EST
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Post #236,624
11/30/05 3:28:04 PM
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Looks like Peter keeps double-clutching his mouse
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Post #236,684
11/30/05 8:23:56 PM
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ICLRPD (new thread)
Created as new thread #236683 titled [link|/forums/render/content/show?contentid=236683|ICLRPD]
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