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New Microsoft XML Sample
<?xml version=1.0?>
<document application="mswd">
<data encoding="base64">
OIAJOMGOPJGOJOJODAJOWEEJ8WEURI
OJSEHILRHAKSHDLKHADSKLFHALKJHI
AAIEHDLKFHALKJDHKLFAHLDKFJHALK
JSDHFLKAJSHDKLJFHALKSDJHFLKADH
</data>
</document>

Fat lot of good XML is going to do MS's victims. They already do this shit in their preferences PLists on Mac OS X.



"Whenever you find you are on the side of the majority, it is time to pause and reflect"   --Mark Twain

"The significant problems we face cannot be solved at the same level of thinking we were at when we created them."   --Albert Einstein

"This is still a dangerous world. It's a world of madmen and uncertainty and potential mental losses."   --George W. Bush
New That's what the OpenDocument guys are complaining about.
"Insert crowbar. Apply force."
New Re: Microsoft XML Sample
\n<?xml version="1.0"?>\n<w:wordDocument xmlns:w="[link|http://schemas.microsoft.com/office/word/2003/wordml|http://schemas.micro.../word/2003/wordml]">\n    <w:body>\n        <w:p>\n            <w:r>\n                <w:t>Hello, World.</w:t>\n            </w:r>\n        </w:p>\n    </w:body>\n</w:wordDocument>\n
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Chris Altmann
New That "link" doesn't work
There's no schema at http://schemas.microsoft.com/office/word/2003/wordml. In fact there's nothing at http://schemas.microsoft.com. At least nothing useful.
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Purveyor of Doc Hope's [link|http://DocHope.com|fresh-baked dog biscuits and pet treats].
[link|http://DocHope.com|http://DocHope.com]
New Well, duuuh.
Its only proposed. And by gummit, it'll be kept that way.
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Freedom is not FREE.
Yeah, but 10s of Trillions of US Dollars?
SELECT * FROM scog WHERE ethics > 0;

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New Point was ...
If it's supposed to be a reference to the proposal, it would be nice to see what they're actually proposing.
===

Purveyor of Doc Hope's [link|http://DocHope.com|fresh-baked dog biscuits and pet treats].
[link|http://DocHope.com|http://DocHope.com]
New Sorry, that's proprietary.
[link|http://www.aaxnet.com|AAx]
New ICLRPD: Sorry, that's proprietary. (new thread)
Created as new thread #230684 titled [link|/forums/render/content/show?contentid=230684|ICLRPD: Sorry, that's proprietary.]
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Steve
[link|http://www.ubuntulinux.org|Ubuntu]
New That is on a knead to know baseless.
All your dough are belonging to us. Anything else is pointless.

Or as Grygus said, that proprietary information. I am guessing you'll need to sign an NDA for that.
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Freedom is not FREE.
Yeah, but 10s of Trillions of US Dollars?
SELECT * FROM scog WHERE ethics > 0;

0 rows returned.
New knead this
My example was actually of the existing WordML format for Word 2003. The docs can be downloaded here:
[link|http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/details.aspx?FamilyId=FE118952-3547-420A-A412-00A2662442D9&displaylang=en|http://www.microsoft...D9&displaylang=en]

There are binary chunks in that format (it is a single xml format unline OO.org); things like graphics, VBA projects, OLE objects, and some other special Word features, but most of it is actual individual elements and attributes with actual primitive data types in text form.


Below is a preview of the schemas for the new default document formats for Office 12:
[link|http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/details.aspx?FamilyId=15805380-F2C0-4B80-9AD1-2CB0C300AEF9&displaylang=en|http://www.microsoft...F9&displaylang=en]

Note that these formats are much like the OO.org ones. They are a number of XML files bundled with graphics (in standard formats) and some binary chunks (like OLE embedded objects and VBA projects) compressed into a ZIP file.



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Chris Altmann
New I would love to download those references...
but, I need to verify I am using a WGA certified Operating System, plus it is in .msi format.

WTF, does this mean I am locked out? Effectively Yes.

Is this a good thing? No.
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[link|http://www.iwethey.org/ed_curry|REMEMBER ED CURRY!] @ iwethey
Freedom is not FREE.
Yeah, but 10s of Trillions of US Dollars?
SELECT * FROM scog WHERE ethics > 0;

0 rows returned.
New It's a URI. It doesn't have to.
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Chris Altmann
New But, how are
verification programs or format checking programs supposed to reference the the DTD describing the "format"?

Lets make sure we understand, a URL is a URI.

And why doesn't Microsoft have a schema similarly available for its XML format?

Oh, here is the OASIS Stuff for ODT:
  • [link|http://www.oasis-open.org/committees/download.php/12571/OpenDocument-schema-v1.0-os.rng|Open Documnet Schema]
  • [link|http://www.oasis-open.org/committees/download.php/12570/OpenDocument-manifest-schema-v1.0-os.rng|Open Document Manifest Schema]
  • [link|http://www.oasis-open.org/committees/download.php/12569/OpenDocument-strict-schema-v1.0-os.rng|Open Document Strict Schema]
  • [link|http://www.oasis-open.org/committees/download.php/12572/OpenDocument-v1.0-os.pdf|For those who want the PDF]
So, I guess, you now understand what I mean (I hope)

And here is a good DTD for XML in any case:
[link|http://www.w3.org/2001/XMLSchema.dtd|W3C's XML Schema DTD] and [link|http://www.w3.org/2001/XMLSchema-datatypes|W3C's XML Schema Datatypes]
Which is a good place to start.
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Freedom is not FREE.
Yeah, but 10s of Trillions of US Dollars?
SELECT * FROM scog WHERE ethics > 0;

0 rows returned.
     Dave Winer thinks Microsoft is in the right about its XML. - (static) - (40)
         Dave Winer is pretty much a numbskull anyway. - (CRConrad)
         He's surprised? - (Andrew Grygus)
         You get the Bob Award for the day. - (Yendor) - (24)
             We need a weecode for this. -NT - (pwhysall) - (4)
                 No, we REALLY don't - (hnick) - (3)
                     Hear, Hear! -NT - (imric)
                     How about us polite pedants? -NT - (drewk) - (1)
                         Well, if you're polite enough, you won't need it... :) -NT - (hnick)
             It's a special case - (ChrisR) - (17)
                 Except that the possessive of "it" is "its" not "it's" - (drewk) - (5)
                     Not quite the right reason - (jake123) - (4)
                         Its? It's stupid! - (ben_tilly) - (3)
                             Not that hard to tell - (jake123) - (1)
                                 It's ambiguous - (ben_tilly)
                             Ahh, YAN argument for Victor Borge's Audible Punctuation :-) -NT - (Ashton)
                 Fascinating, how so many native speakers of English... - (CRConrad) - (9)
                     Hey.. it's like this-yere - (Ashton)
                     its is a polit way to write "grunt" -NT - (boxley)
                     I's will do it at each and every possible opportunity now.. - (hnick) - (6)
                         (I think we found Hugh's button.) - (Another Scott) - (1)
                             MWHAAHAAAA!! -NT - (hnick)
                         "Pisces", perhaps? HTH! - (CRConrad) - (1)
                             ...as in "off"? - (pwhysall)
                         Halleluiah! - (imqwerky)
                         Yabut.. the scary part is - - (Ashton)
                 Ooops! CRC gets all medieval on yer ass! -NT - (jb4)
             D'oh. Fixed. - (static)
         Microsoft XML Sample - (tuberculosis) - (12)
             That's what the OpenDocument guys are complaining about. -NT - (static)
             Re: Microsoft XML Sample - (altmann) - (10)
                 That "link" doesn't work - (drewk) - (9)
                     Well, duuuh. - (folkert) - (6)
                         Point was ... - (drewk) - (5)
                             Sorry, that's proprietary. -NT - (Andrew Grygus) - (1)
                                 ICLRPD: Sorry, that's proprietary. (new thread) - (Steve Lowe)
                             That is on a knead to know baseless. - (folkert) - (2)
                                 knead this - (altmann) - (1)
                                     I would love to download those references... - (folkert)
                     It's a URI. It doesn't have to. -NT - (altmann) - (1)
                         But, how are - (folkert)

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