Well said, but remember that FEMA is tiny.

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Post #227,910

by Another Scott

10/4/05 12:46:32 AM

Well said, but remember that FEMA is tiny.

Brown was right that FEMA just helps coordinate things. [link|http://www.fema.gov/about/history.shtm|FEMA]:

Today, FEMA is one of four major branches of DHS. About 2,500 full-time employees in the Emergency Preparedness and Response Directorate are supplemented by more than 5,000 stand-by disaster reservists.

When [link|http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mount_Rainier|Mt. Ranier] blows, FEMA's not going to be able to do much with 2500 people. Their mission is to coordinate other levels of government and agencies in responding.

That said, FEMA did a terrible job at coordination. Whether it was because they were overwhelmed, or didn't follow the existing plans, or the plans were inadequate, or were simply incompetent (or all of the above), I can't say.

Cheers,
Scott.

Post #227,922

10/4/05 7:01:12 AM

FEMA was gutted

and largely absorbed into DHS. I'm not surprised that it ddn't function as it once did, it couldn't.

If it wasn't tragic, I'd be laughing at the Bush admin, they created a huge bureaucracy with many faces for the purpose of reacting quickly to crises. What morons.

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Post #227,946

by inthane-chan

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10/4/05 11:32:31 AM

Exactly my point.

The current crew is so incompetent they can't find their own asses with both hands. I'd rather that people who know the local area set something up on their own, than deal with that crew. Even if we had to rebuild our own C3 from scratch, we'd probably do a better job.

When somebody asks you to trade your security for freedom, it isn't your freedom they're talking about.

Bush plans power grab based on Katrina - (JayMehaffey) - (99) - Sept. 27, 2005, 12:14:17 PM EDT

Once again - (tuberculosis) - (1) - Sept. 27, 2005, 12:29:30 PM EDT

"Everything would be so much easier under a dictator... - (jb4) - Sept. 27, 2005, 02:19:53 PM EDT

Do I have to do it? Really? - (bepatient) - Sept. 27, 2005, 02:55:07 PM EDT

Just as I said he would - (Arkadiy) - (95) - Sept. 28, 2005, 08:57:48 PM EDT

Right, Ark - (Ashton) - (94) - Sept. 28, 2005, 10:01:38 PM EDT

Ignore the reality all you want - (bepatient) - (93) - Sept. 29, 2005, 12:23:34 AM EDT

Bull - (tuberculosis) - (4) - Sept. 29, 2005, 01:29:36 AM EDT

You still ignore the rules. - (bepatient) - (3) - Sept. 29, 2005, 08:44:44 AM EDT

Whose hue? Whose cry? - (jb4) - Sept. 29, 2005, 10:51:24 AM EDT

Which Armed Forces? - (tuberculosis) - Sept. 29, 2005, 11:28:04 AM EDT

Do you need me to get my cousin's contact info? - (ben_tilly) - Sept. 29, 2005, 05:53:18 PM EDT

You can make it come out any way you want: - (Ashton) - Sept. 29, 2005, 02:12:16 AM EDT

You have lost me - (JayMehaffey) - (65) - Sept. 29, 2005, 09:31:04 AM EDT

"Where was the federal government?" - (drewk) - (2) - Sept. 29, 2005, 09:39:20 AM EDT

Re: "Where was the federal government?" - (GBert) - (1) - Sept. 29, 2005, 03:57:20 PM EDT

Good point - (drewk) - Sept. 29, 2005, 04:07:11 PM EDT

Little things... - (bepatient) - (61) - Sept. 29, 2005, 09:48:40 AM EDT

>/dev/null -NT - (mmoffitt) - (1) - Sept. 29, 2005, 09:51:40 AM EDT

And what was inaccurate? - (bepatient) - Sept. 29, 2005, 09:52:47 AM EDT

Well, Homeland Security - (imric) - (3) - Sept. 29, 2005, 09:58:40 AM EDT

Yup. -NT - (Another Scott) - Sept. 29, 2005, 09:59:52 AM EDT

I know I've said this before, but ... - (drewk) - (1) - Sept. 29, 2005, 10:12:41 AM EDT

It's cheap, easy and photogenic to Pass laws.... - (Another Scott) - Sept. 29, 2005, 10:21:02 AM EDT

Your missing the huge redirect here - (JayMehaffey) - (54) - Sept. 29, 2005, 11:03:13 AM EDT

FEMA was NOT the biggest screw up - (Arkadiy) - (53) - Oct. 3, 2005, 09:46:46 PM EDT

What are you smoking? - (Silverlock) - Oct. 3, 2005, 10:04:04 PM EDT

Accountability. - (inthane-chan) - (3) - Oct. 4, 2005, 12:26:39 AM EDT

Well said, but remember that FEMA is tiny. - (Another Scott) - (2) - Oct. 4, 2005, 12:46:32 AM EDT

FEMA was gutted - (imric) - Oct. 4, 2005, 07:01:12 AM EDT

Exactly my point. - (inthane-chan) - Oct. 4, 2005, 11:32:31 AM EDT

Re: FEMA was NOT the biggest screw up - (JayMehaffey) - (4) - Oct. 4, 2005, 09:42:55 AM EDT

My personal guess - (jake123) - (3) - Oct. 4, 2005, 12:06:42 PM EDT

Aye. -NT - (imric) - Oct. 4, 2005, 12:01:12 PM EDT

Why else would they have hired him back as a conslutant? - (Yendor) - (1) - Oct. 4, 2005, 12:08:12 PM EDT

Um... - (Another Scott) - Oct. 4, 2005, 12:35:23 PM EDT

Disagree - (tuberculosis) - (42) - Oct. 4, 2005, 12:49:45 PM EDT

Nor is it his job to know those details - (bepatient) - (41) - Oct. 4, 2005, 01:53:38 PM EDT

I dunno about that analysis - (jake123) - (36) - Oct. 4, 2005, 02:10:42 PM EDT

I certainly understand that - (bepatient) - (35) - Oct. 4, 2005, 02:20:25 PM EDT

Source for Nagin on "coaches"? TIA. -NT - (Another Scott) - (34) - Oct. 4, 2005, 03:06:46 PM EDT

google://nagin coaches - (drewk) - (31) - Oct. 4, 2005, 03:21:59 PM EDT

Thanks. OTOH... - (Another Scott) - (30) - Oct. 4, 2005, 03:21:21 PM EDT

My only issue with that statement... - (Simon_Jester) - (27) - Oct. 4, 2005, 06:26:51 PM EDT

When? - (Another Scott) - (26) - Oct. 4, 2005, 08:52:28 PM EDT

As soon as evac notice was declared - (bepatient) - (25) - Oct. 5, 2005, 12:37:31 AM EDT

Then why was anyone at the Superdome? - (Another Scott) - (24) - Oct. 5, 2005, 12:43:04 AM EDT

Good question - (bepatient) - (23) - Oct. 5, 2005, 12:46:41 AM EDT

Well, let's just throw in another contingency - while we're - (Ashton) - Oct. 5, 2005, 02:04:08 AM EDT

Unlikely. - (Another Scott) - (21) - Oct. 5, 2005, 08:15:02 AM EDT

Did you not read your own post? - (bepatient) - (20) - Oct. 5, 2005, 09:30:36 AM EDT

It was late, but yes, I read it. :-) - (Another Scott) - (19) - Oct. 5, 2005, 10:22:36 AM EDT

Re: It was late, but yes, I read it. :-) - (bepatient) - (18) - Oct. 5, 2005, 10:37:59 AM EDT

That's not quite what the Times-Picayune story said. - (Another Scott) - (17) - Oct. 5, 2005, 11:13:14 AM EDT

Talk about semantics - (bepatient) - (16) - Oct. 5, 2005, 11:54:15 AM EDT

Then cut to the chase - - (Ashton) - (3) - Oct. 5, 2005, 06:43:12 PM EDT

Another non-seq post - (bepatient) - (2) - Oct. 5, 2005, 08:20:15 PM EDT

'Course Beep: competence Is irrelevant. cha cha -NT - (Ashton) - (1) - Oct. 5, 2005, 09:37:32 PM EDT

Has nothing to do with competence - (bepatient) - Oct. 6, 2005, 07:59:41 AM EDT

Disagree. But back to the buses... - (Another Scott) - (11) - Oct. 5, 2005, 09:06:43 PM EDT

So - (bepatient) - (10) - Oct. 5, 2005, 09:35:56 PM EDT

How long are yall gonna beat this dead horse? - (imqwerky) - (9) - Oct. 5, 2005, 10:41:20 PM EDT

Normally, a comparison w/ 'Nazi' ends a thread, by __'s Law - (Ashton) - (5) - Oct. 5, 2005, 11:28:48 PM EDT

Surprise, surprise - (bepatient) - (4) - Oct. 6, 2005, 08:02:09 AM EDT

You've selected your own MO - (Ashton) - (3) - Oct. 6, 2005, 06:34:41 PM EDT

You're right - (bepatient) - Oct. 6, 2005, 07:26:03 PM EDT

ahem, spanish american war started with less evidence? hmm? - (boxley) - (1) - Oct. 6, 2005, 08:40:29 PM EDT

Well, didn't want to go back tothe free blankets for Indians -NT - (Ashton) - Oct. 6, 2005, 10:20:24 PM EDT

For approximately as long as they are amused - (hnick) - (2) - Oct. 6, 2005, 08:04:52 AM EDT

Nah, pretty much done. -NT - (bepatient) - Oct. 6, 2005, 08:05:58 AM EDT

Good one, hnick! - (imqwerky) - Oct. 6, 2005, 12:38:59 PM EDT

Nit - (bepatient) - (1) - Oct. 4, 2005, 07:24:44 PM EDT

Seems a dead-on conclusion - (Ashton) - Oct. 4, 2005, 07:42:02 PM EDT

CNN link - (SpiceWare) - (1) - Oct. 4, 2005, 03:16:30 PM EDT

Thanks. -NT - (Another Scott) - Oct. 4, 2005, 03:22:05 PM EDT

Vehemently disagree - (tuberculosis) - (3) - Oct. 4, 2005, 03:24:30 PM EDT

Your prerogative - (bepatient) - (2) - Oct. 4, 2005, 07:29:24 PM EDT

Too far - (tuberculosis) - (1) - Oct. 4, 2005, 11:49:22 PM EDT

:-) Well said. -NT - (Another Scott) - Oct. 4, 2005, 11:53:05 PM EDT

Reductio ab BeePium - (jb4) - Sept. 29, 2005, 10:36:15 AM EDT

OK, I get it now - (tuberculosis) - (17) - Sept. 29, 2005, 11:34:19 AM EDT

No. Wrong. - (bepatient) - (16) - Oct. 1, 2005, 04:56:42 AM EDT

Shorter BP... - (Simon_Jester) - (15) - Oct. 2, 2005, 01:30:47 PM EDT

But I don't see those conservative arguments or pundits... - (bepatient) - (14) - Oct. 2, 2005, 02:24:25 PM EDT

Of course there would have been finger-pointing in any case - (Ashton) - (13) - Oct. 2, 2005, 05:13:33 PM EDT

Re: Of course there would have been finger-pointing - (bepatient) - (12) - Oct. 2, 2005, 06:17:23 PM EDT

Absolutely correct. - (hnick) - (5) - Oct. 2, 2005, 07:18:51 PM EDT

Close... - (Simon_Jester) - (3) - Oct. 2, 2005, 11:10:07 PM EDT

Yup. I don't think Bush's been accused of murder and rape... -NT - (Another Scott) - (2) - Oct. 2, 2005, 11:11:29 PM EDT

yet -NT - (bepatient) - Oct. 2, 2005, 11:52:25 PM EDT

He's been accused of causing it to happen to many though -NT - (ben_tilly) - Oct. 3, 2005, 12:17:21 AM EDT

ICLRPD - (jb4) - Oct. 3, 2005, 10:01:33 AM EDT

That's not true - (tuberculosis) - Oct. 3, 2005, 01:25:07 AM EDT

He had a chance - (imric) - (4) - Oct. 3, 2005, 06:58:59 AM EDT

Maybe with you. - (bepatient) - (3) - Oct. 3, 2005, 09:22:26 AM EDT

Re: Other admins vs this one - (hnick) - Oct. 3, 2005, 09:52:11 AM EDT

Key difference I see - (tuberculosis) - Oct. 3, 2005, 12:26:25 PM EDT

Now that I agree with... - (Simon_Jester) - Oct. 3, 2005, 12:26:37 PM EDT

I don't mind it a bit.... - (Simon_Jester) - (1) - Sept. 29, 2005, 11:21:39 PM EDT

Good to see that someone is thinking ahead. :-) -NT - (Another Scott) - Sept. 29, 2005, 11:26:55 PM EDT

We know better than to wear plaid and stripes together.
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