He had a chance

Post #227,692

10/3/05 6:58:59 AM

He had a chance

quick action after 9/11. Urging the US citizenry against racism and bigotry agasinst all Muslims. Going after the actual perpetrators, considering them to be criminals - he made all the right moves immediately after. Then politics took over, and he was vile enough to use 9/11 for his own ends without actually doing anything about it.

He shocked me, by behaving as a President should. He could have gone down in history as one of the good ones, if he had been able to sustain it.

Instead, he reverted in short time. His entire administration degrades our nation; his acts are often assaults on the Constitution he is sworn to uphold. His policies are based on powerlust and greed, cronyism and lies. You talk about hatred, what of it? I DO hate what he is doing to our nation, to the Great Experiment. I make no bones about it - the man and his nominal lackies are slime. I see no reason to make up reasons to seem balanced about him and his Neocon junta - I will not stoop to the Neocon level and lie in order to gain support.

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Post #227,701

by bepatient

10/3/05 9:22:26 AM

Maybe with you.

Not so with many. Sure, had he done everything "right" from the beginning he could have won some over.

I guess I'm even more cynical about other admins versus this admin. Are tehy actually >more< crooked or just more open about it?

Heard Clinton talking about imperialist economics last night wrt Africa. It was MORALLY imperative as well as self interest. Somehow, though, when he says it some folks think it sounds great...if it were to come identically from the lips of GWB (though he'd likely mangle the pronounciation of the countries) it would be considered the worst type of policy imagined.

Dunno..I see it more as biz as usual.

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Post #227,708

by hnick

10/3/05 9:52:11 AM

Re: Other admins vs this one

It's hard to tell. This administration is so secretive that it's hard to know just how corrupt they really are. Other administrations did a lot of horse trading to get their agendas implemented, and admittedly some of those were fairly rotten. This administration wishes to rule, not lead. There is little negotiation, just demands and iron rule of the legislature. What is visible, the cronyism, no bid contracts, special interests, all look rotten, perhaps worse than it really is. But how to know? Most is hidden.
So if you're saying that other administrations were corrupt as well, there is no arguement. If you are saying that Crusader Bunnypants should get a pass because he's not as bad as others, I would disagree. I think Bush et al. is probably the worst thing to hit this country since the Civil War. And may cause another.

Post #227,745

by tuberculosis

10/3/05 12:24:27 PM

10/3/05 12:26:25 PM

Key difference I see

is that this one is a *system* designed to subvert the intent of the constitution.

Other admins actually mostly did their job while lining their own pockets. These guys don't do their jobs and don't just line their pockets, they line theirs and all their friends who often use the resources to kick the workers in the teeth.

These guys have also set human rights back about 100 years by fomenting their own terrorism/torture and throwing out the geneva convention. They are war criminals and should be tried and (most likely) executed.

IOW, these are FASCISTS. New animal in US History.

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Edited by tuberculosis Oct. 3, 2005, 12:26:25 PM EDT

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Post #227,747

by Simon_Jester

10/3/05 12:26:37 PM

Now that I agree with...

Heard Clinton talking about imperialist economics last night wrt Africa. It was MORALLY imperative as well as self interest. Somehow, though, when he says it some folks think it sounds great...if it were to come identically from the lips of GWB (though he'd likely mangle the pronounciation of the countries) it would be considered the worst type of policy imagined.

The left is just as bad at this, imo.

If George talked about imperialist economies with any country, the left would be in arms. Hillary gets a freakin' free pass on it.

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