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Post #223,183

by bepatient

9/6/05 3:58:51 PM

actually

was non-farm payroll. Didn't hammer through BLS stats to get exact counts.

and if you would keep up everywhere this subject seems to have popped up...you would notice that there are other things necessary to ensure mfg jobs stay at home or are created here.

All discussions here are vastly oversimplistic, mine included.

If you push something hard enough, it will fall over. _{Fudd's First Law of Opposition}

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Living paycheck to paycheck made leaving impossible. - (Another Scott) - (111) - Sept. 3, 2005, 11:31:55 PM EDT

Wonder how many folks like these - (Ashton) - (109) - Sept. 4, 2005, 03:07:55 AM EDT

78% Kerry - (altmann) - (108) - Sept. 4, 2005, 05:20:12 AM EDT

Oooh good source - thanks. - (Ashton) - (107) - Sept. 4, 2005, 06:24:10 AM EDT

Go ahead. - (bepatient) - (106) - Sept. 4, 2005, 12:13:00 PM EDT

Yeah, they said that about Strom Thrurmond too - (Ashton) - (5) - Sept. 4, 2005, 03:14:39 PM EDT

Sure. - (bepatient) - (4) - Sept. 5, 2005, 02:17:10 AM EDT

Well, Strom did plenty of obfuscating . . . - (Andrew Grygus) - (3) - Sept. 5, 2005, 03:03:51 AM EDT

So this justifies West's racism how, exactly? -NT - (bepatient) - (2) - Sept. 5, 2005, 12:17:52 PM EDT

Side comment only - justifies nothing. -NT - (Andrew Grygus) - (1) - Sept. 5, 2005, 12:26:36 PM EDT

Sorry, the type of behavior demonstrated by the young man - (bepatient) - Sept. 5, 2005, 12:50:21 PM EDT

No, that's not what he said - (jake123) - (99) - Sept. 4, 2005, 03:22:23 PM EDT

Is it? - (bepatient) - (98) - Sept. 5, 2005, 02:19:25 AM EDT

I just checked - (jake123) - (97) - Sept. 5, 2005, 02:56:43 AM EDT

And that statement is less racist, how? - (bepatient) - (39) - Sept. 5, 2005, 12:16:29 PM EDT

Emphatic disagreement - (ben_tilly) - (38) - Sept. 5, 2005, 01:51:30 PM EDT

Exactly - (jake123) - Sept. 5, 2005, 02:28:55 PM EDT

Disagree all you like - (bepatient) - (36) - Sept. 5, 2005, 03:43:27 PM EDT

He's most definitely not a cracker - (jake123) - Sept. 5, 2005, 03:44:16 PM EDT

I'll point to something specific - (ben_tilly) - (23) - Sept. 6, 2005, 04:48:07 AM EDT

Interesting counterpoint to... - (bepatient) - (22) - Sept. 6, 2005, 03:56:10 PM EDT

Point missed again: it's the Poor Ones as fly well under his - (Ashton) - Sept. 6, 2005, 04:19:47 PM EDT

BeeP calculus: - (jb4) - (17) - Sept. 6, 2005, 06:36:23 PM EDT

Methinks you've lost count. - (bepatient) - (16) - Sept. 6, 2005, 08:28:41 PM EDT

There is no education cabinet minister - (ben_tilly) - (15) - Sept. 6, 2005, 08:52:47 PM EDT

No, there's a Dept of Education - (bepatient) - (14) - Sept. 6, 2005, 10:09:38 PM EDT

There seems to be a miscommunication or three - (ben_tilly) - (13) - Sept. 7, 2005, 01:23:14 AM EDT

Yes, was looking for ~ those words; especially re 'sane'. -NT - (Ashton) - Sept. 7, 2005, 02:34:38 AM EDT

Ummmmmm . . . . . can you point me to . . . - (Andrew Grygus) - Sept. 7, 2005, 03:32:34 AM EDT

Ok - (bepatient) - (10) - Sept. 7, 2005, 10:23:30 AM EDT

Can not let This sleeping-dog er.. Lie: - (Ashton) - (2) - Sept. 7, 2005, 05:39:14 PM EDT

Difference? - (bepatient) - (1) - Sept. 7, 2005, 06:36:35 PM EDT

Vying for Mr. Objective Morality #2, here? with marlowe.. -NT - (Ashton) - Sept. 7, 2005, 07:05:04 PM EDT

Feel free... - (ben_tilly) - (6) - Sept. 7, 2005, 07:39:55 PM EDT

couple of swings at the choice point ball if you please - (boxley) - (2) - Sept. 7, 2005, 07:48:37 PM EDT

Well said. -NT - (Another Scott) - Sept. 7, 2005, 08:05:18 PM EDT

If you want... - (ben_tilly) - Sept. 7, 2005, 11:04:30 PM EDT

You can be open minded. - (bepatient) - (2) - Sept. 8, 2005, 01:29:56 AM EDT

Let's go back to that comment then, shall we? - (ben_tilly) - (1) - Sept. 8, 2005, 02:37:15 AM EDT

And so all is forigiven. - (bepatient) - Sept. 8, 2005, 08:48:00 AM EDT

Go back a couple of posts - (ben_tilly) - (2) - Sept. 6, 2005, 07:20:56 PM EDT

So you think that West... - (bepatient) - (1) - Sept. 6, 2005, 08:41:42 PM EDT

I don't think that West thought this through - (ben_tilly) - Sept. 6, 2005, 09:19:50 PM EDT

"The haves and the have-mores." - (mmoffitt) - (2) - Sept. 6, 2005, 09:35:15 AM EDT

His "base"? - (pwhysall) - (1) - Sept. 6, 2005, 10:01:37 AM EDT

That'll be 1,000 points for Peter. ;0) -NT - (mmoffitt) - Sept. 6, 2005, 10:02:24 AM EDT

It's OK, Bill...You can still like the Berk if you want. - (jb4) - (7) - Sept. 6, 2005, 02:26:37 PM EDT

How easy it is... - (bepatient) - (6) - Sept. 6, 2005, 03:21:36 PM EDT

NO, it seems that the only thing that DOES float with you... - (jb4) - (5) - Sept. 6, 2005, 03:46:41 PM EDT

I see. - (bepatient) - (4) - Sept. 6, 2005, 03:49:52 PM EDT

Your assertion has been inspected, dissected and - (Ashton) - (2) - Sept. 6, 2005, 04:30:18 PM EDT

I see you are suffering greatly... - (bepatient) - (1) - Sept. 6, 2005, 08:30:32 PM EDT

Ah, desperation: the PTA exchange Red-Herring - (Ashton) - Sept. 7, 2005, 02:47:30 AM EDT

I learn from a Master ... :-\ufffd -NT - (jb4) - Sept. 6, 2005, 06:39:01 PM EDT

Naw, george doesnt care about poor people - (boxley) - (56) - Sept. 5, 2005, 02:00:17 PM EDT

You got that right. - (imqwerky) - (55) - Sept. 5, 2005, 02:07:41 PM EDT

I love naivite. - (bepatient) - (54) - Sept. 5, 2005, 03:44:42 PM EDT

Nah - ya likes to toss out simplistic digital slogans - (Ashton) - (6) - Sept. 5, 2005, 04:27:33 PM EDT

Not that I expected differently. - (bepatient) - (5) - Sept. 5, 2005, 05:34:44 PM EDT

GAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH. - (mmoffitt) - (4) - Sept. 6, 2005, 09:37:05 AM EDT

its always trickle down, donja recognise the amonia smell? -NT - (boxley) - (3) - Sept. 6, 2005, 09:41:47 AM EDT

Ah, the 'tinkle-down' yellow stuff: THAT ammonia. Parfait. - (Ashton) - (2) - Sept. 6, 2005, 04:41:05 PM EDT

It's water-, not cream-based - I'd think that'd be a sorbet. -NT - (CRConrad) - (1) - Sept. 6, 2005, 04:55:48 PM EDT

:-\ufffd -NT - (Ashton) - Sept. 6, 2005, 05:16:52 PM EDT

only if the haves leave their stuff behind - (boxley) - (1) - Sept. 5, 2005, 05:02:48 PM EDT

Interesting case in point, I suppose. - (bepatient) - Sept. 5, 2005, 05:35:52 PM EDT

Naive my arse! - (imqwerky) - (44) - Sept. 5, 2005, 06:04:55 PM EDT

The only way to revive - (bepatient) - (43) - Sept. 5, 2005, 06:24:42 PM EDT

Your only form of exercise: jumping to conclusions. - (imqwerky) - (5) - Sept. 5, 2005, 07:00:29 PM EDT

Re: Your only form of exercise: jumping to conclusions. - (bepatient) - (4) - Sept. 5, 2005, 07:21:50 PM EDT

The Red Staters got what they wanted - (imqwerky) - (3) - Sept. 5, 2005, 11:03:27 PM EDT

Nope... - (bepatient) - Sept. 5, 2005, 11:11:31 PM EDT

Aside from_____All__That__Relocation - - - - - (Ashton) - (1) - Sept. 6, 2005, 12:01:27 AM EDT

ooooh, what a cut, calling beep a microbowb -NT - (boxley) - Sept. 6, 2005, 09:33:35 AM EDT

OTOH - (jake123) - Sept. 5, 2005, 07:02:21 PM EDT

Methinks you have way too blind an eye to that last \ufffd - (Ashton) - Sept. 5, 2005, 07:45:59 PM EDT

... - (imric) - Sept. 5, 2005, 09:20:12 PM EDT

You seem rather naive - (Andrew Grygus) - (10) - Sept. 5, 2005, 09:22:13 PM EDT

And so... - (bepatient) - (8) - Sept. 5, 2005, 09:31:39 PM EDT

Against all odds. - (Andrew Grygus) - (1) - Sept. 5, 2005, 10:57:07 PM EDT

Re: Against all odds. - (bepatient) - Sept. 5, 2005, 10:51:15 PM EDT

And thus you demonstrate, One More Time - (Ashton) - (1) - Sept. 5, 2005, 09:52:39 PM EDT

*nudge* - (imric) - Sept. 5, 2005, 10:00:49 PM EDT

Bah. - (imric) - (1) - Sept. 5, 2005, 09:59:10 PM EDT

Then we'd have to face inherited Empires - (Ashton) - Sept. 5, 2005, 10:27:42 PM EDT

perhaps a few ideas - (boxley) - Sept. 5, 2005, 10:41:05 PM EDT

<Sigh> (new thread) - (Another Scott) - Sept. 5, 2005, 11:18:15 PM EDT

Zope mucked the new addy in Econ - gotta alter header. -NT - (Ashton) - Sept. 6, 2005, 12:14:57 AM EDT

What you remind me of... - (ben_tilly) - (9) - Sept. 6, 2005, 05:05:16 AM EDT

Thats all well and good - (bepatient) - (8) - Sept. 6, 2005, 09:02:55 AM EDT

The 'middle class' does not require massive manufacturing. - (Andrew Grygus) - (7) - Sept. 6, 2005, 10:42:02 AM EDT

Trade and Commerce - (bepatient) - (5) - Sept. 6, 2005, 01:54:42 PM EDT

Sure they do - (drewk) - (2) - Sept. 6, 2005, 02:16:59 PM EDT

I forgot that part. - (bepatient) - Sept. 6, 2005, 03:04:40 PM EDT

I suspect that a monomolecular coat of Superglue keeps the - (Ashton) - Sept. 6, 2005, 05:12:43 PM EDT

Trade and Commerce in todays world - (boxley) - Sept. 6, 2005, 03:22:15 PM EDT

No, the trade that built the middle class . . - (Andrew Grygus) - Sept. 6, 2005, 03:38:29 PM EDT

Dupe -NT - (bepatient) - Sept. 6, 2005, 01:55:20 PM EDT

Yes, and how many middle class wage-paying jobs... - (jb4) - (12) - Sept. 6, 2005, 02:32:06 PM EDT

Dunno about wage level - (bepatient) - (11) - Sept. 6, 2005, 03:23:47 PM EDT

A million manufacturing jobs created? Who YOU crappin'? -NT - (jb4) - (1) - Sept. 6, 2005, 03:49:55 PM EDT

actually - (bepatient) - Sept. 6, 2005, 03:58:51 PM EDT

Don't go there, Bill. It's out of line. - (imric) - (8) - Sept. 6, 2005, 04:03:21 PM EDT

Yabut he's Our pet troglodyte. - (Ashton) - (6) - Sept. 6, 2005, 05:06:15 PM EDT

Actually - (imric) - (5) - Sept. 6, 2005, 05:54:10 PM EDT

Re: Actually - (Ashton) - (4) - Sept. 6, 2005, 07:04:42 PM EDT

HIS troll bait? - (imric) - (3) - Sept. 6, 2005, 09:14:27 PM EDT

;=) - (bepatient) - Sept. 6, 2005, 10:10:56 PM EDT

Troll 'bait' can be switched: works OK on you. - (Ashton) - (1) - Sept. 7, 2005, 12:13:19 AM EDT

Hook sometimes taken...sometimes grazes the side. -NT - (bepatient) - Sept. 7, 2005, 10:24:52 AM EDT

I don't - (bepatient) - Sept. 6, 2005, 08:33:34 PM EDT

Never any doubt. - (bepatient) - Sept. 4, 2005, 12:16:21 PM EDT

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