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New Ashton's a playwright.
If you read his prose aloud, and know where to put the inflections (he's usually pretty good about indicating that), then he comes through more clearly. If you read him as written text, like an American newspaper article, you'll misunderstand almost every time.

Half the fun of a post by Ash is coming across new words; another half is drawing a mental 4-D sentence diagram; and the final half is seeing that pre-boomer insight come shining through. :-)

Ashton challenges us, and that's a good thing. I'll bet he's read quite a bit of [link|http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ludwig_Wittgenstein|Wittgenstein]. Now he was an interesting case - he wrote in short, but extremely difficult to understand sentences (IMO, anyway). See, e.g., his [link|http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tractatus_Logico-Philosophicus|Tractatus Logico Philosophicus]:

There are seven main propositions in the text. These are:

1. The world is everything that is the case.
2. What is the case (a fact) is the existence of atomic states of affairs.
3. A logical picture of facts is a thought.
4. A thought is a proposition with sense.
5. A proposition is a truth-function of elementary propositions.
6. The general form of a proposition is the general form of a truth function, which is: [image|http://en.wikipedia.org/math/01a3cf5f91211db95ef402b4bd20508b.png||||]. This is the general form of a proposition.
7. What we cannot speak of we must pass over in silence.


Ashton's prose fits very well with what he wants to convey.

My $0.02.

Cheers,
Scott.
New And sometimes he's like this . . .
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Actually, the most difficult thing about Ashtonese is time. Some of us read and post during short "windows of opportunity" between tasks. Many of his posts just take longer to fully understand than the time available and have to be abandoned.
[link|http://www.aaxnet.com|AAx]
New Exactly right, Andrew
And thanks for posting that.

When time permits, there is a sense of adventure in an Ashtonese (I'll now start using the "correct" term) post. But like reading an e-mail from my German friends, sometimes there is just not the time for the adventure. Unlike a German e-mail, however, an Ashton post has a temporal half-life (as do most posts here), so sometimes they expire before I have time to parse them. :-(
jb4
shrub●bish (Am., from shrub + rubbish, after the derisive name for America's 43 president; 2003) n. 1. a form of nonsensical political doubletalk wherein the speaker attempts to defend the indefensible by lying, obfuscation, or otherwise misstating the facts; GIBBERISH. 2. any of a collection of utterances from America's putative 43rd president. cf. BULLSHIT

New Damn, Scott --
...if you thought the mere Plame fiasco was 'HEAT' (?)

Have you any Idea what the penalty IS for outing a Ludvig Irregular?
(Let alone what that might be a cover For?)
YPB












That can be - Either Ludvig: the music One or, the screw-the-proles / the World Ain't Whatcha -didn't-Think-at-all?- It Was / One.

Watch the sky, Mr. Mole..


Hint: the son of an erstwile Sweetie is in MI-6, did his dissertation on he-who-must-not-be-Named. He is Very-Smart and - -

But while you still live.. er, thanks for good thoughts :-)
(See.. it's outta my hands. Sorry :-/)
     The worst natural disaster in US history - (Silverlock) - (74)
         I agree completely - (Nightowl)
         compared to the galveston hurricane or the okeechobee - (boxley) - (30)
             You probably have something to say I'd be interested in - (Silverlock) - (29)
                 feel free to not read me in my posts :-) -NT - (boxley) - (28)
                     I try - (Silverlock) - (27)
                         Come on man, if he did that . . . - (Andrew Grygus) - (26)
                             I agree - (Nightowl)
                             I'd rather have the anchovy. -NT - (Silverlock)
                             So what is the correct term, Ashtonese or Ashlish? - (jb4) - (5)
                                 Bafflegarblish -NT - (broomberg)
                                 Dupe - ignore. -NT - (Nightowl)
                                 Ashtonish? - (Nightowl)
                                 Ashtonese. - (inthane-chan) - (1)
                                     I'd have to agree. - (Nightowl)
                             If I started writing in plain-vanilla instruction-manual - (Ashton) - (17)
                                 Like I said elsewhere - (Nightowl)
                                 But this one was very clear - (broomberg) - (9)
                                     As I've often said... - (ben_tilly) - (3)
                                         Disagree - (broomberg) - (2)
                                             I think we just demonstrated the "lossy" part. :-) - (ben_tilly) - (1)
                                                 Experiences language teachers know it, too. - (static)
                                     Why are we who we are? - (Nightowl) - (2)
                                         You are way off about Box - (broomberg) - (1)
                                             As I said - (Nightowl)
                                     Gosh.. I'll have to revise, then - (Ashton) - (1)
                                         Thanks -NT - (broomberg)
                                 It depends on what you're trying to achieve. - (pwhysall) - (5)
                                     I Am Not a Number - (Ashton)
                                     Ashton's a playwright. - (Another Scott) - (3)
                                         And sometimes he's like this . . . - (Andrew Grygus) - (1)
                                             Exactly right, Andrew - (jb4)
                                         Damn, Scott -- - (Ashton)
         I still think this is over-reacting. - (folkert) - (41)
             oil and petrochemical is the main deal, has been for a while - (boxley) - (1)
                 Yep - one wonders if this will be the spark - (tuberculosis)
             Read this. - (inthane-chan) - (18)
                 thin blue line erased in New Orleans, lord of the flies time -NT - (boxley) - (17)
                     All the smart people... - (ChrisR) - (16)
                         .. are destitute or invalids or hospitalized or ... :-( -NT - (Another Scott) - (7)
                             Desperate times... - (ChrisR) - (6)
                                 I'm wondering if this event might not set off some - (jake123) - (5)
                                     Not a chance - (hnick)
                                     Didn't in Los Angeles -NT - (Andrew Grygus)
                                     Third world country - (ChrisR)
                                     Naaah - (tuberculosis)
                                     Whatever else this massive boondoggle is explained-away with - (Ashton)
                         Are the poor who lack the resources to move - (tuberculosis) - (7)
                             no resources or will to evacuate and the last time people - (boxley) - (1)
                                 Yep - another article - (tuberculosis)
                             Re: Are the poor who lack the resources to move - (Nightowl) - (4)
                                 On the Titanic it was women and children first - (GBert) - (3)
                                     True, and that makes it worse yet - (Nightowl) - (2)
                                         Astute observation, O feathered One. -NT - (Ashton)
                                         Gives you pause don't it? - (GBert)
             Hey there, driver man... - (danreck) - (19)
                 Believe me, you have my compassion - (Nightowl) - (18)
                     What I can't understand... - (danreck) - (17)
                         It's only the poor. - (inthane-chan)
                         The National Guard is committed to helping - (tuberculosis) - (5)
                             Re: The National Guard is committed to helping - (altmann) - (4)
                                 21k NG troops allocated now by the feds (they pay em) - (boxley)
                                 Wow, really? - (drewk) - (2)
                                     The bigger problem might be the equipment anyways - (altmann) - (1)
                                         Heard in passing on NPR - yep. - (inthane-chan)
                         My opinion - (Nightowl)
                         That requires planning and forethought - (jake123) - (8)
                             I think this is a good time - (danreck) - (7)
                                 I'll tell my cousin-in-law that - (Nightowl) - (5)
                                     Re: I'll tell my cousin-in-law that - (danreck) - (4)
                                         I hope you get to help - (Nightowl) - (1)
                                             Supplies and volunteers - (Nightowl)
                                         Why don't you an mmoffit fly over and drop water bottles? -NT - (tuberculosis) - (1)
                                             I've got oil pressure problems at the moment. :0( -NT - (mmoffitt)
                                 I'm not talking about the fact that the levees failed - (jake123)

I wasn’t quite sure what to say so I told them I thought they were both insane and just wanted to buy my sprinkler parts.
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