Post #201,569
4/1/05 1:33:00 PM
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When I was stationed in Guam...
I had several running around the house. Found eggs in the window track. Of course that was nothing next to finding a live monitor lizard (about 2 feet long) hiding in the engine compartment of my car. luckily for him I had decided to check my oil that day.
~~~)-Steven----
"I want you to remember that no bastard ever won a war by dying for his country.
He won it by making the other poor dumb bastard die for his country..."
General George S. Patton
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Post #201,575
4/1/05 1:50:44 PM
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I have a soft spot for reptiles
Every spring we take our herpetology class out to western Mich to collect and identify herps- mostly salamanders, newts, snakes, frogs and turtles. We also collect embryos, if we can find them, and bring them back to the lab to monitor their development. It's great fun. I always end up getting bit-last year it was a hog-nosed snake. The weather's warming up so we should be out there in a few weeks. Cant wait!
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Post #201,583
4/1/05 2:49:46 PM
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There is a trick you might want to try...
Assuming that you don't show them the "catch a lizard with grass" trick already, see [link|http://www.perlmonks.org/?node_id=270083|http://www.perlmonks.org/?node_id=270083] for details on how to do it.
Cheers,
Ben
I have come to believe that idealism without discipline is a quick road to disaster, while discipline without idealism is pointless. -- Aaron Ward (my brother)
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Post #201,621
4/1/05 11:41:48 PM
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No lizards out here
And no tricks used. It's much more fun to run around like a wild woman and pounce on the little guys.
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Post #201,626
4/2/05 12:41:11 AM
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Ummm, one thing I've been thinking for awhile . .
This outfit that's lining you up with engineers - from what I've been gathering here, you'd be sending most of the engineers I've known (and I've known a hell of a lot of them) screaming into the night. Not sure just what would be right (thinking about it) but I've got my doubts about engineers.
[link|http://www.aaxnet.com|AAx]
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Post #201,640
4/2/05 11:54:31 AM
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Well, let me know what you come up with
Ironic - I was thinking the same thing this morning. Prepare yourself now to enter into my world of self analysis. Went out with Doug the engineer last night. A friend of mine took a new position so we had a party for her. There was also a MSU pep rally going on at the bar- it was very crowded and very loud. I dont get out much, so I was having a grand old time, singing the MSU fight song and laughing with the girls. Doug sat there like a lump. Then we started talking about tumors and boils and such and we whipped the group up into a frenzy of hysterical laughter. Doug continued to sit there like a lump, but he was tense, like a rabbit ready to bolt. Sigh. I think this is the last I'll see of old Doug.
So as far as engineers go, maybe you're right. I think I'm too, ummm, whats the right word here? Immature? Provoking? Passionate? Animated. Yeah, I'm too animated for this breed of men. On paper we seem to match up very well. I'm bright. I have 2 advanced degrees. I think like an engineer (very linear and in absolutes)but my cognitive patterns dont transfer to my behavior. I'm very passionate about having fun. I love practical jokes. I think boils are worthy of discussion and they amuse me. Diving for a salamander into a puddle of mud makes me happy. I dont like politics or economics and prefer to talk about how we humans relate to our natural world. Everything else to me is just fluff.
My absolute main priority is being a mother and my goal is to raise my kids in such a way that doesnt result in years of therapy when they grow up. And so far, I think I'm doing a damn good job. Family is important to me and I would love to have someone in my life to share this all with. And a little sex every now and then would be nice. Dont think that's asking too much.
My ex was the proverbial Peter Pan. Was in his mid 40's and maintained the belief that he was going to be the next Ronnie James Dio, Tony Iommi or Ronnie Van Zant. Grow up already, quit drinking and cut your hair! You dont look cool! You look like Grandpa Walton! He was the exact opposite of an engineer. I think I need to find some middle ground, here.
So where does this leave me? I've blown through my list of engineers Eharmony came up with and now they say they cant find any new matches for me. Not a one in southeast Michigan!!!
So, what do you think? Am I destined to be single? Where *IS* he already?!? I'm tired of looking!!
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Post #201,642
4/2/05 12:15:32 PM
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Don't give up on him yet.
He may just take a while to get comfortable around groups of people. He may not like bars much.
Try lunch again, take things slowly, and see how it goes. You don't have to enjoy all the same things to be a good couple.
Luck!
Cheers,
Scott.
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Post #201,644
4/2/05 12:17:37 PM
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I think he gave up on me
But if he calls again I'll give it another shot.
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Post #201,647
4/2/05 12:32:16 PM
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Don't wait for him to call.
Let him know that you're still interested. Men are chicken you know. :-)
Cheers,
Scott.
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Post #201,656
4/2/05 2:27:41 PM
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Well . . . . Idunno.
It's really his job (if he's still interested) to find out if he's been disqualified for poor performance under party stress. It only takes a few moments to find out where you stand - and if you can't take rejection you shouldn't be dating. My guess is he's shaking in his boots hoping this is over.
[link|http://www.aaxnet.com|AAx]
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Post #201,657
4/2/05 2:34:43 PM
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Maybe, but a call doesn't hurt.
(It feels so weird talking about them like this. They should each be posting here, giving the play-by-play).
:-)
Cheers,
Scott.
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Post #201,646
4/2/05 12:31:11 PM
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Wrong
You don't have to enjoy all the same things to be a good couple
Bullshit.
Any couple who have a baseline physical attraction can start, but to maintain any sense of togetherness you HAVE to enjoy a large percentage of the same things. If not, this really means you are in it for the sex, and when someone else comes along that provides both the sex AND the companionship, you are gone.
Drop the engineer. He is the far extreme of your ex, and is the "safe" rebound material, but you have no long term hope.
Anyone who varies between sitting like a lump, and being terrified and about to bolt, needs a lot more on the pyche side than you are willing to provide, especially since your kids are your priority.
Modify your profile on the dating service a bit. Push up your fun-loving categories, your willingness to take a chance, etc. And go have some fun.
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Post #201,649
4/2/05 12:37:54 PM
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Reread what I wrote.
I said all the same things.
You make some good points, but there's more to a relationship than whether they both enjoy and feel comfortable in crowded noisy bars or not. It's safe to say, isn't it, that our spouses don't enjoy doing stuff on the internet as much as we do? That doesn't mean we aren't compatible.
Remember, they chose each other because they already had a lot in common.
My $0.02.
Cheers,
Scott.
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Post #201,653
4/2/05 1:17:44 PM
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No they didn't
Remember, they chose each other because they already had a lot in common.
A computer did.
Based on a bullshit profile.
With code written by programmer who can be pretty sure that no matter who they match up, there will always be such a gray zone in the formula that it really does not matter who they join together.
So they match education level, income level, free time, and physical preferences.
That is a hell of amount of leeway.
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Post #201,654
4/2/05 1:48:36 PM
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Well, you've got to start somewhere...
If she were so easy to match, why aren't there any more in [link|http://z.iwethey.org/forums/render/content/show?contentid=201640|SE Michigan]?
I'm not saying that she and Doug the Engineer are a perfect match. I'm just saying she (and he) should give it more time to see what happens. She doesn't know why he was antsy.
But it really depends on what they each are looking for. My father's mother got married during the Great Depression so that she would have a roof over her head. Charles got married to have an heir.
If bionerd is looking for someone to go to rowdy bars and sing drinking songs with when she's 65, then DtE might not be a good match. That sounds more like her ex to me. I don't think, though, that [link|http://z.iwethey.org/forums/render/content/show?contentid=201640|that's what she's looking for]. DtE has another plus too: She needs a [link|http://z.iwethey.org/forums/render/content/show?contentid=198742|babysitter]. ;-)
Cheers,
Scott.
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Post #201,650
4/2/05 12:40:59 PM
4/2/05 12:42:04 PM
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Agreed
It doesn't mean you have to agree on everything, but you have to both enjoy common activities.
And - Bionerd? Any guy that doesn't enjoy splashing into streams after salamanders has DEFINATELY lost touch with thier inner kid... How much fun can they be, in the long run?
Fun is serious business. It's IMPORTANT.
[link|http://www.runningworks.com|
] Imric's Tips for Living
- Paranoia Is a Survival Trait
- Pessimists are never disappointed - but sometimes, if they are very lucky, they can be pleasantly surprised...
- Even though everyone is out to get you, it doesn't matter unless you let them win.
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Nothing is as simple as it seems in the beginning,
As hopeless as it seems in the middle,
Or as finished as it seems in the end.
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Edited by imric
April 2, 2005, 12:42:04 PM EST
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Post #201,691
4/2/05 8:15:36 PM
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Just like you and yours...
She likes ripping you a new one and you just sit there and take it.
No, really some differences are really required to keep sparks a sparking.
Similar morals and ethics and general interests... that is all you need.
-- [link|mailto:greg@gregfolkert.net|greg], [link|http://www.iwethey.org/ed_curry|REMEMBER ED CURRY!] @ iwethey[link|http://it.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=134485&cid=11233230|"Microsoft Security" is an even better oxymoron than "Military Intelligence"] No matter how much Microsoft supporters whine about how Linux and other operating systems have just as many bugs as their operating systems do, the bottom line is that the serious, gut-wrenching problems happen on Windows, not on Linux, not on Mac OS. -- [link|http://www.eweek.com/article2/0,1759,1622086,00.asp|source]
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Post #201,692
4/2/05 8:18:01 PM
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As I have said many times
My role in this world is to lead as a bad example.
Note: The person you just spoke to me tagged me as a:
Don't Bee.
Referring the Children's Highlight comics (I think).
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Post #201,693
4/2/05 8:20:56 PM
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More likely: Romper Room.
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Post #201,684
4/2/05 6:53:08 PM
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if he had a good job would he still have to quit drinking
and cut his hair? Maybe old doug there was enjoying himself sitting there like a lump. Heck, in a bar I tend to sit like a lump and watch the show. Well I can discuss a really good boil with the next guy as well as the various scars, tumors zits lesions and tits vs ass. I Doug calls and gives a huge grin when he see's you again stuff might happen.
If not, come to the party in July, a couple of people around here are single and at least one will show up there. You are gonna be out of luck about the quit drinkin, hair part as thats what we mostly do and thems that still has hair grows it as needed.
There is a guy for you out there, you just hanvt caught him stalking you yet.
luck,
thanx,
bill
All tribal myths are true, for a given value of "true" Terry Pratchett
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Post #201,687
4/2/05 7:31:53 PM
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ICLRPD (new thread)
Created as new thread #201686 titled [link|/forums/render/content/show?contentid=201686|ICLRPD]
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Post #201,688
4/2/05 7:32:44 PM
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Single?
At the party?
Who?
Hmmm - Imric
Who else?
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Post #201,696
4/2/05 8:38:28 PM
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out of that particular collection
not just the child molesters I would not be surprised to find more than one.
than,
bill
All tribal myths are true, for a given value of "true" Terry Pratchett
[link|http://boxleys.blogspot.com/|http://boxleys.blogspot.com/]
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Post #201,702
4/2/05 10:54:16 PM
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That's right
Hey, Bionerd, I forgot.
There is a nice collection of "manly" types, policemen, firefighters, etc.
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Post #201,703
4/2/05 11:00:43 PM
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Aren't they a little busy though, with the fires . . .
. . and unruly guests?
[link|http://www.aaxnet.com|AAx]
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Post #201,705
4/2/05 11:35:16 PM
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They're setting them
and are the unruliest.
Nothing better than a bunch of drunk firemen setting off fireworks, and then not noticing the neighbor's lawn catching on fire.
Oh, but wait, there's more!
Remember, the other neighbor has a synchronized party!
They might be a bit young for Bionerd, but maybe she wants to play with a boytoy for a while.
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Post #201,710
4/3/05 3:11:21 AM
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IIRC...
2 years ago there was a synchronized party.
Last year the other party was moved to Sunday. So as not to have competition. :-)
Cheers,
Ben
I have come to believe that idealism without discipline is a quick road to disaster, while discipline without idealism is pointless. -- Aaron Ward (my brother)
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Post #201,727
4/3/05 2:00:17 PM
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Not too crazy about those in the helping professions
I have a confession to make- not only do I do the biology thing, I'm also a practicing psychotherapist. I do both part time. I do some work for the university and also work for an EAP company doing telephonic counseling and mass casualty disaster response- mostly plane crashes. People who work in the helping professions are full of neuroses- I dont want to date one. I am one.
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Post #201,732
4/3/05 2:33:55 PM
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Ahh, a little more onion unraveling
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Post #201,793
4/4/05 1:04:40 AM
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Makin' you cry, is it?
"Whenever you find you are on the side of the majority, it is time to pause and reflect" --Mark Twain
"The significant problems we face cannot be solved at the same level of thinking we were at when we created them." --Albert Einstein
"This is still a dangerous world. It's a world of madmen and uncertainty and potential mental losses." --George W. Bush
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Post #201,827
4/4/05 12:09:36 PM
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A little at a time
It's better that way. Trust me.
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Post #201,887
4/4/05 7:43:45 PM
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Wise words, Grasshopper :-\ufffd
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Post #201,891
4/4/05 8:05:37 PM
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be reminded that this board can be read by anyone
I know you know this but.....
All tribal myths are true, for a given value of "true" Terry Pratchett
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Post #201,733
4/3/05 2:35:50 PM
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Well, we already knew . . .
. . you were a nutcase or you wouldn't qualify for this board - we just didn't know you were a certified one.
[link|http://www.aaxnet.com|AAx]
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Post #201,741
4/3/05 3:20:34 PM
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Reminds me of a theory of my uncle's
He said that people take psychology courses because they want to understand their problems. Most people figure themselves out after a course or 2 and do something else. Some people's problems are more complex so they take more courses. And then when they've figured themselves out they say, "What do I do for a degree? Well I have all of these psychology courses..."
This uncle had a PhD in psychology and was a prime example of his own theory.
Cheers,
Ben
I have come to believe that idealism without discipline is a quick road to disaster, while discipline without idealism is pointless. -- Aaron Ward (my brother)
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Post #201,746
4/3/05 3:38:52 PM
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I dated a girl like that.
Manic-depressive psych major. Fun for a while, but...
Regards,
-scott anderson
"Welcome to Rivendell, Mr. Anderson..."
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Post #201,759
4/3/05 8:35:01 PM
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Me too!!!
And yup, fun.
For a while.
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Post #201,755
4/3/05 7:34:02 PM
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So as a missionary, I'm out of the running? Dang.
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Post #201,757
4/3/05 8:11:38 PM
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just hold that position :-)
All tribal myths are true, for a given value of "true" Terry Pratchett
[link|http://boxleys.blogspot.com/|http://boxleys.blogspot.com/]
Any opinions expressed by me are mine alone, posted from my home computer, on my own time as a free american and do not reflect the opinions of any person or company that I have had professional relations with in the past 48 years. meep
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Post #202,040
4/5/05 4:20:14 PM
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Order yours today!
[link|http://www.missionarypositionsmovie.com/|http://www.missionarypositionsmovie.com/]
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Post #202,045
4/5/05 4:43:37 PM
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Re: Order yours today!
Every time I click on one of *these* links you guys post I end up with spyware. I'm not clicking.
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Post #202,059
4/5/05 5:10:11 PM
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Get a better browser
[link|http://www.mozilla.org/products/firefox/|http://www.mozilla.org/products/firefox/]
Cheers,
Ben
I have come to believe that idealism without discipline is a quick road to disaster, while discipline without idealism is pointless. -- Aaron Ward (my brother)
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Post #202,087
4/5/05 7:22:42 PM
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And while you're at it...
[link|http://www.zonelabs.com/store/content/company/products/znalm/freeDownload.jsp|http://www.zonelabs..../freeDownload.jsp]
jb4
shrub\ufffdbish (Am., from shrub + rubbish, after the derisive name for America's 43 president; 2003) n. 1. a form of nonsensical political doubletalk wherein the speaker attempts to defend the indefensible by lying, obfuscation, or otherwise misstating the facts; GIBBERISH. 2. any of a collection of utterances from America's putative 43rd president. cf. BULLSHIT
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Post #202,099
4/5/05 8:09:11 PM
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I already use Firefox
And I have Zone Alarm installed, plus NoAdware, Spybot S&D and Norton 2005. I'm well protected but crap still sneaks in . It's all that porn, dontchaknow.
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Post #202,104
4/5/05 8:25:33 PM
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So move to Linux
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Post #202,105
4/5/05 8:25:36 PM
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So move to Linux
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Post #202,114
4/5/05 9:00:36 PM
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Dang
Well Andrew Grygus has been predicting for a while that by the end of this year Windows will be pretty much unusable online. Some of the scumware infestations that he has described removing sound scary.
I'm thinking in particular of the one described at [link|http://z.iwethey.org/forums/render/content/show?contentid=198346|http://z.iwethey.org...?contentid=198346].
Cheers,
Ben
I have come to believe that idealism without discipline is a quick road to disaster, while discipline without idealism is pointless. -- Aaron Ward (my brother)
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Post #202,136
4/5/05 11:52:56 PM
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Have sent that around, too
Well - excerpted (with attribution but sans direct zIWE link.) That thread pretty much outlines all the stuff the average person is unapt to have access to -- lore + the skill to apply it. And it reads OK in English, too.
It's looking bleak out there for toy software, including my own - despite precautions.
So far, two of my Droogies are now safely ensconced on new Apples (which I can't afford until I Must). As these two, especially, *need* reliable web access, I'm relieved for them. Gawd, what about the Millions??
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Post #201,799
4/4/05 2:02:25 AM
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ObCheapShot: Naah, she said *helping* professions! ;^>
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Post #201,823
4/4/05 11:18:31 AM
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ObOverlyLiteralComeback: 10,000 homes built! ;^>
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Post #201,855
4/4/05 2:32:13 PM
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ObSorryOnlySerious: Oh, I'm sure you're quite helpful...
...as a *builder*, so you're not "out of the running" after all!
It's only that you could build those houses just as well without the *missionary* bits of being a missionary, you see...
[link|mailto:MyUserId@MyISP.CountryCode|Christian R. Conrad]
(I live in Finland, and my e-mail in-box is at the Saunalahti company.)
Your lies are of Microsoftian Scale and boring to boot. Your 'depression' may be the closest you ever come to recognizing truth: you have no 'inferiority complex', you are inferior - and something inside you recognizes this. - [link|http://z.iwethey.org/forums/render/content/show?contentid=71575|Ashton Brown]
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Post #201,861
4/4/05 3:03:49 PM
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Well, not necessarily . . .
. . the funding has to come from somewhere. Being a missionary gets his construction funded.
[link|http://www.aaxnet.com|AAx]
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Post #201,865
4/4/05 3:11:20 PM
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Yup. Funny how so much charity is founded in religion
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Post #201,888
4/4/05 7:45:27 PM
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{chortle} Touch\ufffd, mon frere
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Post #201,918
4/5/05 1:56:58 AM
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So are ya saying Bob is/should be paid at full market value?
Interesting... That would put all the charitableness squarely in the lap of his providers of funding, wouldn't it?
[link|mailto:MyUserId@MyISP.CountryCode|Christian R. Conrad]
(I live in Finland, and my e-mail in-box is at the Saunalahti company.)
Your lies are of Microsoftian Scale and boring to boot. Your 'depression' may be the closest you ever come to recognizing truth: you have no 'inferiority complex', you are inferior - and something inside you recognizes this. - [link|http://z.iwethey.org/forums/render/content/show?contentid=71575|Ashton Brown]
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Post #201,922
4/5/05 2:13:42 AM
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Profit = employee.worth - employee.paid
In a non-profit, that translates into net charity. ;)
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Post #201,938
4/5/05 7:57:08 AM
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Aha... So that makes your employer the charitable one, then.
That is, eh... *Are* you saying, as you seem to be, that *you, personally*, are paid normal market wages for your "charitable" work?
Just wondering...
[link|mailto:MyUserId@MyISP.CountryCode|Christian R. Conrad]
(I live in Finland, and my e-mail in-box is at the Saunalahti company.)
Your lies are of Microsoftian Scale and boring to boot. Your 'depression' may be the closest you ever come to recognizing truth: you have no 'inferiority complex', you are inferior - and something inside you recognizes this. - [link|http://z.iwethey.org/forums/render/content/show?contentid=71575|Ashton Brown]
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Post #201,961
4/5/05 9:39:28 AM
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No, the charitable ones . .
. . are the ones donating money to his employer so that he may be paid to engage in charitable work. He and his employer are simply the conduit through which this charity is applied.
[link|http://www.aaxnet.com|AAx]
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Post #202,009
4/5/05 2:29:48 PM
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More than a conduit
Although what you say is partly true, I add more value to that charity than it could do on its own, since I'm *not* being paid what I'm worth. In addition, the organization adds value through its economies of scale (and 40 other people on staff whose contributed value is more than what they're paid).
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Post #202,011
4/5/05 2:39:54 PM
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Yep, makes sense; and is good to hear. Except...
Except *for you*, of course, since that puts you back in the helping business -- and therefore on the outs with the BionicBabe! ;^>
[link|mailto:MyUserId@MyISP.CountryCode|Christian R. Conrad]
(I live in Finland, and my e-mail in-box is at the Saunalahti company.)
Your lies are of Microsoftian Scale and boring to boot. Your 'depression' may be the closest you ever come to recognizing truth: you have no 'inferiority complex', you are inferior - and something inside you recognizes this. - [link|http://z.iwethey.org/forums/render/content/show?contentid=71575|Ashton Brown]
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Post #201,826
4/4/05 12:08:38 PM
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Never say never ;-)
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Post #201,758
4/3/05 8:19:36 PM
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slice a roid, disect a fantasy, not much diff
you just like root causes, annoying in a potential female partner for most. So, you need a strong man who can listen to you regale his faults up one side and down the other and go huh? while scratching his nuts with a salad fork. Not immposible, but IT might be a good choice because if it doesnt down the server we probably dont care, which would annoy you except after being chewed on, the guy might just ruffle your bum and say "does that make you feel better?"
Never know, might work.
Actually Rob N doesnt hang out here anymore but he was with similar type lady, think she was psychiatrist candidate as opposed to yours and a nicer couple couldnt be met.
thanx,
bill
All tribal myths are true, for a given value of "true" Terry Pratchett
[link|http://boxleys.blogspot.com/|http://boxleys.blogspot.com/]
Any opinions expressed by me are mine alone, posted from my home computer, on my own time as a free american and do not reflect the opinions of any person or company that I have had professional relations with in the past 48 years. meep
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Post #201,828
4/4/05 12:11:25 PM
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Well, you just got me all figured out, don't you?
So now who's playing therapist?
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Post #201,795
4/4/05 1:09:20 AM
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Psychotherapy psychotherapy psychotherapy...
...it's what they wanna give me!
Peter
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Post #201,907
4/4/05 10:23:18 PM
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Using us as a case study?
--
Steve
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Post #201,913
4/5/05 12:27:16 AM
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We should be worth a few PhD theses. :-)
I have come to believe that idealism without discipline is a quick road to disaster, while discipline without idealism is pointless. -- Aaron Ward (my brother)
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Post #201,956
4/5/05 9:15:44 AM
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Absolutely not! :-)
It would take me a lifetime to sort through all the characterlogical and pathological symptoms that are evident here. It makes my head spin! Besides, my practice is limited to trauma response now. No guts (literally), no glory.
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Post #201,960
4/5/05 9:35:47 AM
4/5/05 9:36:33 AM
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characterlogical?
[link|http://dictionary.reference.com/search?q=characterlogical|http://dictionary.re...=characterlogical]
Didn't think so.
Edited by broomberg
April 5, 2005, 09:36:33 AM EDT
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Post #201,962
4/5/05 9:47:49 AM
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A standard reference dictionary . . .
. . can't be expected to contain all the arcane technical terms of every esoteric specialty.
On the other hand, Ms BioNerd appears to be deeply involved in two separate specialties to which the phrase "no guts, no glory" applies. No wonder engineers go screaming into the night.
[link|http://www.aaxnet.com|AAx]
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Post #201,967
4/5/05 10:26:34 AM
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Characterlogical
As in a maladaptive pattern of of inner experience and behavior that deviates from the expectation of one's culture
And I do like guts. I just dont like to eat them.
Knowing this, do I send you screaming into the night?
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Post #201,970
4/5/05 10:34:07 AM
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I'd have thought it was the other way around... HTH! ;^>
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Post #201,971
4/5/05 10:35:41 AM
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Show us a picture of yourself and I'll tell you.
Yeah, it's shallow. Sue me:)
...and yes, if that's what characterlogical means, I guess I'd have to say we have a lot of that around here.
OTOH, I do have to wonder about the normative value of the word "maladaptive". I'm not sure that it applies universally to "patterns of inner experience and behaviour that deviate from the [norms of one's cultural milieux]". Sometimes that's actually really healthy.
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Post #201,976
4/5/05 11:06:58 AM
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All right already
[link|http://www.hpphoto.com/servlet/com.hp.HPAlbumPict?com=us&awp=albumshow.html&album_id=4919107|http://www.hpphoto.c...&album_id=4919107]
Click on the thumbnails to enlarge
Bionerd revealed. Happy now?
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Post #201,978
4/5/05 11:14:10 AM
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That link takes me to a login form
I have come to believe that idealism without discipline is a quick road to disaster, while discipline without idealism is pointless. -- Aaron Ward (my brother)
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Post #201,980
4/5/05 11:19:53 AM
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I know- I'm trying again
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Post #201,981
4/5/05 11:26:27 AM
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Account created
Send it to iwethey (password iwethey) at HP
A good friend will come and bail you out of jail ... but, a true friend will be sitting next to you saying, "Damn...that was fun!"
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Post #201,982
4/5/05 11:36:19 AM
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Okay- done
You take it from here.
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Post #201,983
4/5/05 11:47:39 AM
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There, now you can send up #4 as your icon . .
. . and keep all the guys drooling.
[link|http://www.aaxnet.com|AAx]
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Post #201,987
4/5/05 11:52:44 AM
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No thanks
I'll keep Susan.
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Post #201,984
4/5/05 11:49:04 AM
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Yeah, DtE does look a little stiff.
:-)
Very nice. Thanks for sharing.
Cheers,
Scott.
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Post #201,985
4/5/05 11:50:21 AM
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So, is that the engineer from the infamous date?
Does seem to be a bit of a stiff.
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"In this world of sin and sorrow there is always something to be thankful for. As for me, I rejoice that I am not a Republican."
-- H. L. Mencken
Support our troops, Impeach Bush.
D. D. Richards
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Post #201,988
4/5/05 11:55:14 AM
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No, this guy was more fun!
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Post #201,989
4/5/05 11:58:06 AM
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Still getting broken image links
Help, anyone?
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Post #201,990
4/5/05 12:00:08 PM
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Worked fine for me
You *are* opening the iwethey album, right?
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"In this world of sin and sorrow there is always something to be thankful for. As for me, I rejoice that I am not a Republican."
-- H. L. Mencken
Support our troops, Impeach Bush.
D. D. Richards
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Post #201,992
4/5/05 12:01:37 PM
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you may need to re-login to the site
which means either closeing and restarting your browser or at least clearing out the cookies
~~~)-Steven----
"I want you to remember that no bastard ever won a war by dying for his country.
He won it by making the other poor dumb bastard die for his country..."
General George S. Patton
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Post #201,999
4/5/05 12:24:03 PM
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No luck, still getting broken image links
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Post #202,013
4/5/05 2:42:13 PM
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AAAIIIEEE!!! (runs away) (j/k)
I have come to believe that idealism without discipline is a quick road to disaster, while discipline without idealism is pointless. -- Aaron Ward (my brother)
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Post #202,020
4/5/05 2:55:11 PM
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Yup, you better run boy . . .
You wife gonna beat you silly she catch you perus'n them pitures.
[link|http://www.aaxnet.com|AAx]
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Post #202,025
4/5/05 3:39:29 PM
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If you want you can use:
[image|http://www.gregfolkert.net/pics/avatar/bionerd-80x80.jpg||||]
[link|http://www.gregfolkert.net/pics/avatar/bionerd-80x80.jpg|http://www.gregfolkert.net/pics/avatar/bionerd-80x80.jpg]
or if you have problem Cut and Pasting into the preferences:
http://www.gregfolkert.net/pics/avatar/bionerd-80x80.jpg
To me, it is a (devilish) darling picture of you. The 80x80 means it is 80x80 pixels
-- [link|mailto:greg@gregfolkert.net|greg], [link|http://www.iwethey.org/ed_curry|REMEMBER ED CURRY!] @ iwethey[link|http://it.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=134485&cid=11233230|"Microsoft Security" is an even better oxymoron than "Military Intelligence"] No matter how much Microsoft supporters whine about how Linux and other operating systems have just as many bugs as their operating systems do, the bottom line is that the serious, gut-wrenching problems happen on Windows, not on Linux, not on Mac OS. -- [link|http://www.eweek.com/article2/0,1759,1622086,00.asp|source]
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Post #202,028
4/5/05 3:42:37 PM
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Starting a new thread about this... for easy use. (new thread)
Created as new thread #202027 titled [link|/forums/render/content/show?contentid=202027|Starting a new thread about this... for easy use.]
-- [link|mailto:greg@gregfolkert.net|greg], [link|http://www.iwethey.org/ed_curry|REMEMBER ED CURRY!] @ iwethey[link|http://it.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=134485&cid=11233230|"Microsoft Security" is an even better oxymoron than "Military Intelligence"] No matter how much Microsoft supporters whine about how Linux and other operating systems have just as many bugs as their operating systems do, the bottom line is that the serious, gut-wrenching problems happen on Windows, not on Linux, not on Mac OS. -- [link|http://www.eweek.com/article2/0,1759,1622086,00.asp|source]
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Post #202,152
4/6/05 7:43:49 AM
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That's useful.
It means I don't have to figure out why I can't login to that HP site. (They're probably doing something daft with third-party cookies...)
Wade.
Is it enough to love
Is it enough to breathe
Somebody rip my heart out
And leave me here to bleed
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Is it enough to die
Somebody save my life
I'd rather be Anything but Ordinary
Please
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Post #202,026
4/5/05 3:39:39 PM
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Guts? Ooh! Where?
Most people on this forum work in IT and you have to be fairly contrary to want to study machine logic for a living. And this board seems to attract the particularly contrary. You noticed this yourself.
So, you study guts. Can I watch? Can you provide a running commentary? Am I supposed to be scared of my own mortality or something?
Matthew Greet
But we must kill them. We must incinerate them. Pig after pig, cow after cow, village after village, army after army. And they call me an assassin. What do you call it when the assassins accuse the assassin? They lie. They lie and we must be merciful to those who lie.
- Colonol Kurtz, Apocalypse Now.
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Post #201,969
4/5/05 10:33:41 AM
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characterological
She's a biologist, not an english teacher :)
~~~)-Steven----
"I want you to remember that no bastard ever won a war by dying for his country.
He won it by making the other poor dumb bastard die for his country..."
General George S. Patton
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Post #202,005
4/5/05 2:04:10 PM
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And I type a lot faster than I think :)
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Post #202,006
4/5/05 2:06:03 PM
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Re: And I type a lot faster than I think :)
[link|http://www.kuro5hin.org/comments/2005/4/4/0310/64105/20#20|http://www.kuro5hin..../0310/64105/20#20]
Peter
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Post #201,726
4/3/05 1:51:14 PM
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The hair really wasnt the issue
It became a symbol of his refusal to grow up. I generally like long hair on men. Or short hair. Or no hair. Hell, I'm not picky. And drinking is fine- it's the alcoholism I have a problem with. Without going into all the gory details in a public forum, he wanted a parent instead of a partner. And I didnt want that. 'Nuff said for now.
No call from DtE yet and I'm not expecting one. As Andrew said, I think he went screaming into the night. I do, occassionally, tend to have that effect on men.
Just where is this party? Near Lambertville NJ at all? I'm thinking about it.
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Post #201,731
4/3/05 2:21:31 PM
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Just so you know
it's "run screaming naked into the cold, dark night".
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Post #201,734
4/3/05 2:36:49 PM
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Engineers don't run anywhere naked - you know that.
[link|http://www.aaxnet.com|AAx]
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Post #201,830
4/4/05 12:13:10 PM
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Sad but true.
They really should try it. It's quite liberating.
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Post #201,832
4/4/05 12:17:13 PM
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Okay, now you *have* to make it to the party
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Post #201,834
4/4/05 12:27:15 PM
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Now accountants, on the other hand . . .
. . have always been the wild bunch in the companies I've worked for. Forget marketing, they're tame, try to get invited to the accounting department parties. Yes, running naked even.
Disclaimer: I spent much of my employment years as an engineering accountant feeding numbers to marketing.
[link|http://www.aaxnet.com|AAx]
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Post #202,012
4/5/05 2:41:07 PM
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This thread's about a lizard, right?
bcnu,
Mikem
Eine Leute. Eine Welt. Ein F\ufffdhrer.
God Bless America.
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Post #202,014
4/5/05 2:42:28 PM
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Yeah, couldn't you tell?
why else would we be talking about accountants? Now if someone were to bring up lawyers, then we'd be firmly into the leech territory... but those things aren't lizards so they're not a fit subject of discussion for this thread.
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Post #202,019
4/5/05 2:53:33 PM
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Speaking of lawyers... (new thread)
Created as new thread #202018 titled [link|/forums/render/content/show?contentid=202018|Speaking of lawyers...]
I have come to believe that idealism without discipline is a quick road to disaster, while discipline without idealism is pointless. -- Aaron Ward (my brother)
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Post #201,735
4/3/05 2:41:52 PM
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Lambertville? Nope
Much further south, near Philadephia.
But seeing this map is kind of odd for me.
[link|http://www.mapquest.com/maps/map.adp?searchtype=address&country=US&addtohistory=&searchtab=home&address=&city=lambertville&state=nj&zipcode=|http://www.mapquest....state=nj&zipcode=]
#1 - Ivyland is visible. That is where my office is.
#2 - Right underneath Lambertville is Huffnagle. That is the name of the street in Philadelphia I spent the 1st 3 years of my life.
Here is where the party is:
[link|http://www.mapquest.com/maps/map.adp?searchtype=address&country=US&addtohistory=&searchtab=home&address=&city=sicklerville&state=nj&zipcode=|http://www.mapquest....state=nj&zipcode=]
I live on the middle upper edge of that map.
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Post #201,738
4/3/05 2:55:11 PM
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What, not everyone advanced to Google maps by now?
[link|http://maps.google.com/maps?oi=map&q=Sicklerville,+NJ|Google map].
Alex
The trouble with the world is that the stupid are cocksure and the intelligent are full of doubt. -- Bertrand Russell
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Post #201,742
4/3/05 3:22:50 PM
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Interesting
My sister lives near Lambertville (in Ringoes), and Imric aka Skip grew up in that area.
Bill Patient might have as well?
Cheers,
Ben
I have come to believe that idealism without discipline is a quick road to disaster, while discipline without idealism is pointless. -- Aaron Ward (my brother)
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Post #201,781
4/3/05 11:34:21 PM
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You assume Bill grew up..... ;-)
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Post #201,785
4/3/05 11:46:10 PM
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Well from my point of view he isn't very "up"! :-P
He kind of grew sideways a bit as well. But I've heard rumor that he's ungrown sideways.
That'll make him easier to throw in the pool. :-)
Cheers,
Ben
I have come to believe that idealism without discipline is a quick road to disaster, while discipline without idealism is pointless. -- Aaron Ward (my brother)
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Post #201,787
4/3/05 11:52:59 PM
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If you think it'll make it easier...
...you can try it.
If you push something hard enough, it will fall over. Fudd's First Law of Opposition
[link|mailto:bepatient@aol.com|BePatient]
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Post #201,786
4/3/05 11:51:53 PM
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Oh heaven forbid!
I just live in new jersey now...I'm not >from< here.
that would make me a yankee....
ew.
If you push something hard enough, it will fall over. Fudd's First Law of Opposition
[link|mailto:bepatient@aol.com|BePatient]
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Post #201,788
4/3/05 11:58:40 PM
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Shoot, Belgium and West Virginia, right?
I should have remembered. Sorry.
BTW do your kids hate you for having made them Yanks?
Cheers,
Ben
I have come to believe that idealism without discipline is a quick road to disaster, while discipline without idealism is pointless. -- Aaron Ward (my brother)
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Post #201,790
4/4/05 12:00:24 AM
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Kids haven't figured that out yet
WV...then Belgium...with OH and Cobourg Ontario mixed in for good measure (5 and 6 years old)
If you push something hard enough, it will fall over. Fudd's First Law of Opposition
[link|mailto:bepatient@aol.com|BePatient]
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Post #201,803
4/4/05 7:07:37 AM
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Trust me - after moving to GA
there are definately worse things than being Yankee.
[link|http://www.runningworks.com|
] Imric's Tips for Living
- Paranoia Is a Survival Trait
- Pessimists are never disappointed - but sometimes, if they are very lucky, they can be pleasantly surprised...
- Even though everyone is out to get you, it doesn't matter unless you let them win.
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Nothing is as simple as it seems in the beginning,
As hopeless as it seems in the middle,
Or as finished as it seems in the end.
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Post #201,831
4/4/05 12:16:15 PM
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My boss is lives out there
Trying to coordinate my travel plans, maybe kill 2 birds with one stone. They're getting hammered with flooding in that area today.
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Post #201,857
4/4/05 2:41:18 PM
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They are?
Then I should give my sister a ring.
Incidentally is it stretching coincidence that I think my brother-in-law works in Lambertville in the airline insurance industry? (He's a lawyer.)
Cheers,
Ben
I have come to believe that idealism without discipline is a quick road to disaster, while discipline without idealism is pointless. -- Aaron Ward (my brother)
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Post #201,862
4/4/05 3:06:06 PM
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Re: They are?
From what I understand, it's pretty bad. Bad enough that my boss is out of commission today and I'm running the show out of my office. You should call your sister..
What's your bro-inlaw's name? We retain a chap named David Evans.
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Post #201,872
4/4/05 4:19:59 PM
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I will call her
Anyways it is a coincidence. My brother in law is named Steven Ivans.
Cheers,
Ben
I have come to believe that idealism without discipline is a quick road to disaster, while discipline without idealism is pointless. -- Aaron Ward (my brother)
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Post #201,867
4/4/05 3:15:23 PM
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From CNN
Flooding spurs evacuations, closes schools
TRENTON, New Jersey (AP) -- Flooding forced hundreds of people from their homes Monday in New Jersey and Pennsylvania and closed the New Jersey Statehouse and several nearby state office buildings.
Rest of the [link|http://www.cnn.com/2005/WEATHER/04/04/new.jersey.flooding.ap/index.html|article]
A good friend will come and bail you out of jail ... but, a true friend will be sitting next to you saying, "Damn...that was fun!"
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Post #202,002
4/5/05 12:50:34 PM
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You just need to find an analog engineer
maybe a younger version of Bob Widlar would be a good match:
Read [link|http://www.national.com/rap/Story/widlar.html|here to learn about sheep as lawn mowers]
From an [link|http://silicongenesis.stanford.edu/transcripts/gifford.htm|interview with Jack Gifford]:
"But, I remember one night, I mean, you had to drink to be around Bob Widlar. I mean, if you wanted a, I mean and, and I did drink but, I mean, this guy was infamous, I mean. And I remember one night where we were drinking and the next thing I know we're up, we're up at his tree house. He lived in a tree house up in the, by Big Basin. And we're up there and, he didn't live in it but he had this tree house and he's up there shooting a 30-30 off in the middle of the night, three in the morning, you know. And stuff like that."
or [link|http://silicongenesis.stanford.edu/transcripts/allenbendersteinheimer.htm|Richard Steinheimer]
"In fact Widlar, when they didn't buy equipment once at National, he got so mad he went down to purchasing with his long handle double edged axe and threatened them that if they didn't order that damn thing right now for Talbert that he would start chopping up their desks. Well Talbert's composure and quiet brilliance might not have got him everywhere either because he wasn't pushy or anything. And so one of the examples of teamwork was one time at National when the purchasing guys wouldn't follow through and buy some line or fabricating equipment or text equipment that Talbert had ordered, that Widlar I guess he heard once too many times that they hadn't received the equipment that Talbert needed yet. And so Widlar always kept a long handled double edged axe in his office and so he went down to purchasing department and he walked in and he told them that in the office out loud as he would only have done it, he said if they didn't order that equipment right now for Talbert, he would start chopping up their desks. Now, he was a very brilliant man. He didn't say he was going to start chopping up them, but he said he would only chop up their desks. But for a bunch of clerical guys, that had them running for the aisles. And so the, anyways, he scared the hell out of them and then he left and I'm sure that the head of the department then called Charlie Spork immediately and said there's this madman down here. Widlar came down and threatened us with an axe he was going to chop us up with his axe if we didn't get this equipment. And just from the little I know of Charlie and talking to him, Charlie Spork, I am sure Charlie said well, hey don't worry, that's just Widlar, just forget it. That's all right. And so they ordered the equipment and anyway..."
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Post #202,003
4/5/05 1:15:27 PM
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Widlar was a giant.
[link|http://www.uoguelph.ca/~antoon/gadgets/741/741.html|Operational Amplifiers]. Amazing technical skills.
Thanks for the stories!
Cheers,
Scott.
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Post #202,004
4/5/05 1:32:28 PM
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Jack Gifford is pretty impressive, too,
I knew Gifford was Maxim's CEO, but I didn't know he ran Intersil and was co-founder of AMD.
If you like this type of stuff, you'd probably enjoy Bob Pease's column; if it's not available at National Semiconductor, you can subscribe to Electronics Design.
Tony
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Post #202,134
4/5/05 11:39:03 PM
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Yup, been following BP for years - got his book?
Troubleshooting Analog Circuits
Wish I'd read that when I could have applied it, hourly :(
(Except, sob - he hadn't written it then - mine was hot off the press.)
A real Writer! have read passages from this to non-techno folk..
Good writing expands mere techno fact into Hmmmms, in anyone whose curiosity isn't yet dead. He should get a special Pulitzer - how do we Nominate?
Hmmm too, my Electronic Design stopped a while back, so I've missed Bob's recent columns. Gotta check on that. (Unless the dead-tree version is now Dead??)
(I bet that nowadays a lot of their base just reads Bob Pease..)
Bob Pease Fan Club
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Post #201,615
4/1/05 11:03:12 PM
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ICLRPD
It's great fun. I always end up getting bit. ===
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Post #201,612
4/1/05 9:48:38 PM
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Tiny Geckos
about 1 inch long, no color
kind of pinkish on our walls...
Glen Austin
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Post #201,613
4/1/05 10:00:27 PM
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... In the wine... make me happy... make me feel fine...
Regards,
-scott anderson
"Welcome to Rivendell, Mr. Anderson..."
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