Stupid test.

Post #137,889 by admin 1/26/04 4:00:09 PM Reply	Stupid test. A good number of the questions were simple vocab or "have you heard this idiomatic phrase before". Stanford Binet it ain't. Regards, -scott anderson "Welcome to Rivendell, Mr. Anderson..."
Post #137,898 by broomberg 1/26/04 4:09:18 PM Reply	Yes but Those phrases could be puzzled out with straight vocabulary knowledge. And we know all tests of this type that attempt to measure any language skills have to pick a language to work in.
Post #137,900 by deSitter 1/26/04 4:12:50 PM Reply	That's why you have specific tests ..like the "Miller Analogies" test. You test one specific thing. Plus - a lot of the mathy tests are also based on "speaking the language". If you have your head in a math book all the time, you're going to do better spotting numeric and geometric patterns. So that's also a form of cultural bias (although as I stated, my primary bitch with these tests is not cultural bias.) -drl
Post #137,907 by broomberg 1/26/04 4:20:57 PM Reply	Math? You forget who you are writing to. The last math I had was not math, it was arithmetic! 22 years ago. And I did POORLY. I was stumped on the driving question (both turn left, etc) until I drew it out on a piece of paper. Since I long ago forgot the formula for the open side of the triange, I guestimated. I usually feel like an idiot when I see a lot of the educated banter here.
Post #137,909 by deSitter 1/26/04 4:25:28 PM Reply	Made my point I live with that theorem day in and day out, constantly. So that one was trivial for me. If you didn't know that theorem, what do you do? Prove it on the spot? There's a good problem for you. Prove that for a right triangle, the squares of the sides on the right angle added together = the sqaure on the side opposite the right angle. If you read what I just wrote carefully you'll get a hint. -drl
Post #137,911 by Steve Lowe 1/26/04 4:28:45 PM Reply	car problem Pythagorean Theorem: in a right triangle, the sum of the squares of the sides = the square of the hypotenuse. Cars drive distance A (6) turn left and drive distance B (8). (66)+(88)=100. Sqroot of 100 is 10, the distance is double since we're talking about 2 cars, therefore answer is 20. And that's about all the trig I remember. :) ----- Steve
Post #137,915 by broomberg 1/26/04 4:36:47 PM Reply	I knew the name Really. I just didn't know the formula. So I drew the starting point, the cars moving away. Then each turn. I labeled the distance. I then used my hand as as a protracter, swiveled toward the center, and marked it. This left a visual distance of a few miles. I guessed in the 20 area. 20 was one of the answers. I marked it.
Post #137,916 by folkert 1/26/04 4:37:47 PM Reply	Uhh... Yeah! * _6_\n \\ \|\n \\ \|8\n ? \\ \|\n \\\|\n \|\\\n \| \\?\n 8\| \\\n \|___\\\n 6 * a^2 + b^2 = c^2 (6^2 + 8^2 = 10^2)2 = 20 Miles -- [link\|mailto:greg@gregfolkert.net\|greg], [link\|http://www.iwethey.org/ed_curry\|REMEMBER ED CURRY!] @ i_wethey* "Lately, The only thing keeping me from being a Serial Killer is my distaste for manual labor." -- Dilbert Calendar, January 4, 2004
Post #137,918 by Steve Lowe 1/26/04 4:39:33 PM Reply	Yers is prettier, mine is wordier :) ----- Steve
Post #137,917 by Another Scott 1/26/04 4:39:08 PM Reply	Easier. They're 3:4:5 right triangles. The sides are 6 and 8 so the hypotenuse is 10. Times 2 = 20. No square roots required. :-) Cheers, Scott.
Post #137,902 by admin 1/26/04 4:14:57 PM Reply	That's why you need someone to give the test. Regards, -scott anderson "Welcome to Rivendell, Mr. Anderson..."
Post #137,904 by admin 1/26/04 4:16:18 PM Reply	Another problem with this test: What the high? What's the mean? IQ tests are notoriously bad at scoring when the test taker gets close to all of the questions correct. Regards, -scott anderson "Welcome to Rivendell, Mr. Anderson..."
Post #137,910 by broomberg 1/26/04 4:26:20 PM Reply	Agreed The true top is meaningless in an "absolute" context. How much smarter is 140 vs 130? Is it even possible to validly test anything over XXX? Dunno. Arbitrary numbers good to bounce around on a bar bet.
Post #137,914 by admin 1/26/04 4:32:58 PM Reply	I think the max on this one is probably fairly low. Regards, -scott anderson "Welcome to Rivendell, Mr. Anderson..."
Post #137,921 by broomberg 1/26/04 4:42:29 PM Reply	Agreed The higher you go, the finer you would have to tune a much wider variety of questions. Also, you would have to test people with the same basic experiences within the same age group. This stuff quickly becomes invalid as the population ages. I would expect to test the top of this test (or damn close). I would expect you to do the same, along with your son. But I'd probably be hitting my max, where your gene pool would just be taking off.
Post #137,931 by admin 1/26/04 5:03:27 PM Reply	By comparison: Your IQ score is 140 This number is based on a scientific formula that compares how many questions you answered correctly on the Classic IQ Test relative to others. Your Intellectual Type is Visionary Philosopher. This means you are highly intelligent and have a powerful mix of skills and insight that can be applied in a variety of different ways. Like Plato, your exceptional math and verbal skills make you very adept at explaining things to others \ufffd and at anticipating and predicting patterns. And that's just some of what we know about you from your IQ results. Regards, -scott anderson "Welcome to Rivendell, Mr. Anderson..."
Post #137,942 by deSitter 1/26/04 5:11:39 PM Reply	gotta be timed My guess - the scores are weighted by throwing out 1 correct and 1 incorrect answer (or perhaps 2 incorrect) from each half (verbal and math), then 1 point per minute is deducted past a certain time. Each correct answer is worth 4. If you answer them as fast as possible the highest score is probably thus 144 (= 160 - 16 worth of toss). -drl
Post #137,943 by admin 1/26/04 5:12:59 PM Reply	Couldn't possibly be timed. I was popping back to the test every 5 minutes or so to do another question while I was waiting for compiles to complete. Regards, -scott anderson "Welcome to Rivendell, Mr. Anderson..."
Post #137,944 by deSitter 1/26/04 5:15:26 PM Reply	Re: Couldn't possibly be timed. Then how can scores differ by 2? Not enough questions. -drl
Post #137,953 by broomberg 1/26/04 5:33:39 PM Reply	Different weightings They determine values for particluar questions.
Post #137,922 by broomberg 1/26/04 4:42:58 PM 1/26/04 4:46:15 PM Reply	Agreed - Dupe Dupe The higher you go, the finer you would have to tune a much wider variety of questions. Also, you would have to test people with the same basic experiences within the same age group. This stuff quickly becomes invalid as the population ages. I would expect to test the top of this test (or damn close). I would expect you to do the same, along with your son. But I'd probably be hitting my max, where your gene pool would just be taking off. Edited by broomberg Jan. 26, 2004, 04:46:15 PM EST Expand All History

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