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New Cute IQ test
I wish I new what I got wrong, if any.

[link|http://web.tickle.com/tests/uiq/|http://web.tickle.com/tests/uiq/]

They peg me at 135. Which has me a little unhappy, since it is a bit lower than my Stanford Binet score.

They claim to need you email at the end but they don't. Give it anything and it'll give the score on the next page.

And yours is?

No doubetakes, give us your 1st time.
New Heh
..that's where I saw the little problem on Nth best/worst I posted.
-drl
New My score
127 is what I got.


Congratulations, Orion!
Your IQ score is 127

This number is the result of a formula based on how many questions you answered correctly on Emode's Classic IQ test. Your IQ score is scientifically accurate; to read more about the science behind our IQ test, click here.

During the test, you answered four different types of questions \ufffd mathematical, visual-spatial, linguistic and logical. We analyzed how you did on each of those questions which reveals how your brain uniquely works.

We also compared your answers with others who have taken the test, and according to the sorts of questions you got correct, we can tell your Intellectual Type is Visual Mathematician.

This means you are gifted at spotting patterns \ufffd both in pictures and in numbers. These talents combined with your overall high intelligence make you good at understanding the big picture, which is why people trust your instincts and turn to you for direction \ufffd especially in the workplace. And that's just some of what we know about you from your test results.

Find out more about your unique intellectual strengths in your personalized 15-page IQ report. It's ready right now!


That is the honest score I got, I included the words that came with it to verify the areas I am strong in.



"Lady I only speak two languages, English and Bad English!" - Corbin Dallas "The Fifth Element"

New It's vacuous
INTERNET INTELLIGENCE TEST

Vacuous is to Internet as marketing is to

1. koala bear
2. kryptonite
3. eurythromblysis
4. football
5. spam

Which one of the following does not belong?

1. diamond
2. ruby
3. reefer
4. sapphire
5. garnet

Which number comes next?

1,1,1,1,1...

1. 42
2. 17
3. 1221
4. 1
5. 666

"Neither a borrower nor a _________ be."

1. terrorist
2. pedophile
3. leper
4. fatass
5. lender

Which figure is out of place?

1. :/
2. ;)
3. :)
4. >:{
5. spam

Email is to dialup as snail mail is to

1. Rodney
2. deSitter
3. Mail truck
4. Dilbert
5. spam

If it takes 3 C programmers 10 days to finish a project, then 6 C programmers can finish it in

1. 100 days
2. 1000 days
3. can't be determined
4. trick, there are only 5 C programmers left
5. spam

Which one is out of place?

1. 192.168.1.0
2. 172.16.1.0
3 10.1.0.0
4. sales@microsoft.com
5. www.microsoft.com

If Bill gains 0.1 pounds for every minute his fat ass is hanging out online, and loses 0.02 pounds every time he masturbates, how much will he weigh after an all-day session of downloading pornography, assuming he masturbates 3 times an hour?
-drl
New Only when someone you don't like scores well
Yes, he's crazy, poorly informed, superstitious, and a host of other maladies.

But he's shown in the past occasional moments of great lucidity. That is why it is such a shame when he displays his other side,
New Re: Only when someone you don't like scores well
That wasn't directed at Norm - I like Norm.

All IQ tests are stupid. They don't mean anything.
-drl
New I got it
IQ tests may be biased based on knowledge a certain group might have that another does not. Perhaps someone with an ESL (English as a Second Language) situation might not score as high on the English part of the test, but still have a higher IQ than the test shows. A Chinese Engineer, perhaps taking the test might get confused on the English definition and the way some questions are worded.

I am sure there are other examples. I'll let everyone else figure them out. I have a quiz to study for tonight.



"Lady I only speak two languages, English and Bad English!" - Corbin Dallas "The Fifth Element"

New Being a Gemini
I have two sides. Sorry if my dark side shows up more often than it should. :)



"Lady I only speak two languages, English and Bad English!" - Corbin Dallas "The Fifth Element"

New Got "document contains no data" for my trouble.
Alex

The mind is not a vessel to be filled but a fire to be kindled. -- Plutarch
New you mean your brain?
-drl
New ROFL!
No, I took the test. Screwed up the email address with "#" vs. "@", fixed it and resubmitted. After long wait, got the message.
Alex

The mind is not a vessel to be filled but a fire to be kindled. -- Plutarch
New Standard problem with these tests
They have cultural bias.

So when I said put anything in the email address, you took that at face value. I should have specified anything within a standard email address syntax. My fault.
New Re: Standard problem with these tests
Press any key.

I don't think it's cultural bias - it's just that all they measure is how well you do at this kind of test. Some people get anxious, some are sloppy, some simply think slowly. You can't measure "intelligence" (whatever that is) with a number. Beethoven couldn't add, but he could make a piece of music with a complex 9/16 rhythym off the beat. He was so bad at math his metronome marks are meaningless. This is one of the great geniuses of the entire race, and he'd fail miserably a test like this.

In any case, even if you believe in something like this, it 1) has to be timed 2) has to have enough questions to make a valid statistical sample. And why isn't the answer like "100 + or - 10"?
-drl
New Some cultural bias.
The idiomatic phrases (a cynic is someone who knows the cost of everything and the value of nothing) were a dead giveaway.

You have to have someone give the test for it to have any meaning at all. Stock multiple choice is insufficient, because if the person taking the test is smarter than the person who wrote the test, they can come up with something off the wall that the author didn't even consider.
Regards,

-scott anderson

"Welcome to Rivendell, Mr. Anderson..."
New Top high end never test well
But then they probably aren't going to do well in life either, unless they have a caretaker.

But the next level down, the level who can read into the test the meaning of what the test writer intended, these people will go far because they can think at multiple levels and apply it. Which occasionally means dumbing down for the audience.

Which really is the truest test of intelligence, isn't it? At least in the ability to survive in a society of people who don't like other people who are too smart.
New Survival skill = intelligence?
Kepler was battered from pillar to post his entire life, narrowly avoiding starvation at times. So it's not self-evident, but I mostly agree.

For sheer mental agility, nothing comes close to great chess players. Most of the ones I've met were total losers. The greatest player ever, Bobby Fischer, was totally tunes. The second, Alekhine, was a drunkard, a philaderer, and a cheat.

I think I'd define intelligence in the broadest sense as adaptability. After all, that is OUR human animal skill. Too bad you can't make a test that depended on scenario-making.
-drl
New KISS
I believe that the objection to "IQ" tests can be seen with just a reminder of the idea of "scale". IQ is a Purple Herring.

ie it is utterly Absurd! - to imagine reducing a human package to ANY fucking NUMBER; that this kultur believes you can, and also makes many life-affecting decisions (about a one and her chances) based on such idiocy, tells us all we need to know about "digital-think".. the realm of Billy n'Bally, white/black and "faith based science".

Now.. were there a category of "BIQ" .. Bizness IQ, then Dilbert's little vignettes *could* be numbered. It would be more meaningful since [I posit] dumbth is ever more immediately apparent to the observer than is brilliance.

rest case
New brain brammage
the colored boxen gets me lost cause I dont do colors. 122 means a lot of dead brain cells since the 144 I got years ago. Claims I am a word warrior.
thanx,
bill
same old crap, con artists ripping off fools. Ah, hell, Catholic Church it start off that way. They All do. Jesus probably had three walnut shells one pea, then he's dead and can't be questioned,
Gabriel Dupre

questions, help? [link|mailto:pappas@catholic.org|email pappas at catholic.org]
New Ditto on that.
135, and lower than I have scored in the past.

Also, Mensa scored me well above that.
--
[link|mailto:greg@gregfolkert.net|greg],
[link|http://www.iwethey.org/ed_curry|REMEMBER ED CURRY!] @ iwethey

"Lately, The only thing keeping me from being a
  Serial Killer is my distaste for manual labor."
-- Dilbert Calendar, January 4, 2004
New I like the pattern progression
Left -> up, right -> left/down.
Was an AHA moment.
New Re: I like the pattern progression
What? You mean the set with paired big and small paired figures, where one has two small figures? See what I mean?
-drl
New No...
The 16 blocks, changing progressively.
--
[link|mailto:greg@gregfolkert.net|greg],
[link|http://www.iwethey.org/ed_curry|REMEMBER ED CURRY!] @ iwethey

"Lately, The only thing keeping me from being a
  Serial Killer is my distaste for manual labor."
-- Dilbert Calendar, January 4, 2004
New Mensa entry was 140
So you'd have to do better than that.

I got the invite when I was 14. I declined.

I always considered Mensa underachievers unanimous.
New ObGroucho
"I don't want to be in any club that would have me as a member."
-drl
New Ditto on the ditto
Same score...same thing...lower than other scores.

If you push something hard enough, it will fall over. Fudd's First Law of Opposition

It goes in, it must come out.Teslacle's Deviant to Fudd's Law

[link|mailto:bepatient@aol.com|BePatient]

New Stupid test.
A good number of the questions were simple vocab or "have you heard this idiomatic phrase before".

Stanford Binet it ain't.
Regards,

-scott anderson

"Welcome to Rivendell, Mr. Anderson..."
New Yes but
Those phrases could be puzzled out with straight vocabulary knowledge. And we know all tests of this type that attempt to measure any language skills have to pick a language to work in.
New That's why you have specific tests
..like the "Miller Analogies" test.

You test one specific thing.

Plus - a lot of the mathy tests are also based on "speaking the language". If you have your head in a math book all the time, you're going to do better spotting numeric and geometric patterns. So that's also a form of cultural bias (although as I stated, my primary bitch with these tests is not cultural bias.)
-drl
New Math?
You forget who you are writing to. The last math I had was not math, it was arithmetic!
22 years ago. And I did POORLY.

I was stumped on the driving question (both turn left, etc) until I drew it out on a piece of paper. Since I long ago forgot the formula for the open side of the triange, I guestimated.

I usually feel like an idiot when I see a lot of the educated banter here.
New Made my point
I live with that theorem day in and day out, constantly. So that one was trivial for me. If you didn't know that theorem, what do you do? Prove it on the spot?

There's a good problem for you. Prove that for a right triangle, the squares of the sides on the right angle added together = the sqaure on the side opposite the right angle. If you read what I just wrote carefully you'll get a hint.
-drl
New car problem
Pythagorean Theorem: in a right triangle, the sum of the squares of the sides = the square of the hypotenuse. Cars drive distance A (6) turn left and drive distance B (8). (6*6)+(8*8)=100. Sqroot of 100 is 10, the distance is double since we're talking about 2 cars, therefore answer is 20.

And that's about all the trig I remember. :)
-----
Steve
New I knew the name
Really. I just didn't know the formula.

So I drew the starting point, the cars moving away. Then each turn.
I labeled the distance.

I then used my hand as as a protracter, swiveled toward the center, and marked it. This left a visual distance of a few miles. I guessed in the 20 area. 20 was one of the answers. I marked it.
New Uhh... Yeah!
* _6_\n \\   |\n  \\  |8\n ? \\ |\n    \\|\n     |\\\n     | \\?\n    8|  \\\n     |___\\\n       6  *


a^2 + b^2 = c^2

(6^2 + 8^2 = 10^2)*2 = 20 Miles
--
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[link|http://www.iwethey.org/ed_curry|REMEMBER ED CURRY!] @ iwethey

"Lately, The only thing keeping me from being a
  Serial Killer is my distaste for manual labor."
-- Dilbert Calendar, January 4, 2004
New Yers is prettier, mine is wordier :)
-----
Steve
New Easier.
They're 3:4:5 right triangles. The sides are 6 and 8 so the hypotenuse is 10. Times 2 = 20.

No square roots required. :-)

Cheers,
Scott.
New That's why you need someone to give the test.
Regards,

-scott anderson

"Welcome to Rivendell, Mr. Anderson..."
New Another problem with this test:
What the high? What's the mean?

IQ tests are notoriously bad at scoring when the test taker gets close to all of the questions correct.
Regards,

-scott anderson

"Welcome to Rivendell, Mr. Anderson..."
New Agreed
The true top is meaningless in an "absolute" context. How much smarter is 140 vs 130? Is it even possible to validly test anything over XXX? Dunno. Arbitrary numbers good to bounce around on a bar bet.
New I think the max on this one is probably fairly low.
Regards,

-scott anderson

"Welcome to Rivendell, Mr. Anderson..."
New Agreed
The higher you go, the finer you would have to tune a much wider variety of questions. Also, you would have to test people with the same basic experiences within the same age group.

This stuff quickly becomes invalid as the population ages. I would expect to test the top of this test (or damn close). I would expect you to do the same, along with your son. But I'd probably be hitting my max, where your gene pool would just be taking off.
New By comparison:
Your IQ score is 140

This number is based on a scientific formula that compares how many questions you answered correctly on the Classic IQ Test relative to others.

Your Intellectual Type is Visionary Philosopher. This means you are highly intelligent and have a powerful mix of skills and insight that can be applied in a variety of different ways. Like Plato, your exceptional math and verbal skills make you very adept at explaining things to others \ufffd and at anticipating and predicting patterns. And that's just some of what we know about you from your IQ results.
Regards,

-scott anderson

"Welcome to Rivendell, Mr. Anderson..."
New gotta be timed
My guess - the scores are weighted by throwing out 1 correct and 1 incorrect answer (or perhaps 2 incorrect) from each half (verbal and math), then 1 point per minute is deducted past a certain time. Each correct answer is worth 4.

If you answer them as fast as possible the highest score is probably thus 144 (= 160 - 16 worth of toss).
-drl
New Couldn't possibly be timed.
I was popping back to the test every 5 minutes or so to do another question while I was waiting for compiles to complete.
Regards,

-scott anderson

"Welcome to Rivendell, Mr. Anderson..."
New Re: Couldn't possibly be timed.
Then how can scores differ by 2? Not enough questions.
-drl
New Different weightings
They determine values for particluar questions.
New Agreed - Dupe
Dupe

The higher you go, the finer you would have to tune a much wider variety of questions. Also, you would have to test people with the same basic experiences within the same age group.

This stuff quickly becomes invalid as the population ages. I would expect to test the top of this test (or damn close). I would expect you to do the same, along with your son. But I'd probably be hitting my max, where your gene pool would just be taking off.
Expand Edited by broomberg Jan. 26, 2004, 04:46:15 PM EST
New 133
I did give it a real (junk) email addy. Part of that was:

"Steve, you are a Visual Mathematician.

This means you are gifted at spotting patterns. This and your overall
high intelligence make you good at understanding the big picture."

-----
Steve
New 133 - same here, but I'm an 'Insightful Linguist' apparently
(As opposed to a cunning one, I suppose...)

Anyway, I guess this is a nice way of saying 'You can remember plenty of stock phrases, but you suck at adding up' :)
John. Busy lad.
New Good way to waste time. Addendum.
"Sorry!
An unexpected error has occurred. We're trying to fix this problem right now,
thanks for your patience!."

Bah!

Edit:

It wants cookies enabled....

138

"According to the sorts of questions you got correct, we can tell your Intellectual Type is a Visionary Philosopher."

Oooooh! I'm a 'osopher!

:-)

Cheers,
Scott.
Expand Edited by Another Scott Jan. 26, 2004, 04:51:47 PM EST
New sqrt (-1)
You are a complex person!
-drl
New Feh
I scored 133. Apparently I'm a "Facts Currator". Ha. Is that why I only scored 8 on that trivia test the other day. No, I didn't post that result.

Methinks they're being somewhat generous in hopes of getting a few more customers...
Have fun,
Carl Forde
New Re: Cute IQ test
Your IQ score is 117

Your Intellectual Type is Word Warrior. This means you have exceptional verbal skills. You can easily make sense of complex issues and take an unusually creative approach to solving problems. Your strengths also make you a visionary. Even without trying you're able to come up with lots of new and creative ideas.

I know the math kept my score low. I'm just HORRID at math.

Nightowl >8#


"To become different from what we are, we must have some awareness of what we are."
Eric Hoffer
New 142 - I'm a "Visionary Philosopher". Sheesh.
bcnu,
Mikem

I don't do third world languages. So no, I don't do Java.
Expand Edited by mmoffitt Jan. 26, 2004, 05:03:06 PM EST
New I can live with "your Intellectual Type is a Facts Curator".
But being compared to "brainiacs like Bill Gates" wasn't as flattering as they probably intended for it to be.

140, FWIW.


   [link|mailto:MyUserId@MyISP.CountryCode|Christian R. Conrad]
(I live in Finland, and my e-mail in-box is at the Saunalahti company.)
You know you're doing good work when you get flamed by an idiot. -- [link|http://www.theregister.co.uk/content/35/34218.html|Andrew Wittbrodt]
New 135 means you didn't get any wrong.
New How is that possible?
Regards,

-scott anderson

"Welcome to Rivendell, Mr. Anderson..."
New It was my score, and I didn't get any wrong. :D
New Nope. Scott and Ben both beat us.
New Got it up to 144
By fixing two questions. I wasn't able to get it to go any farther.
Regards,

-scott anderson

"Welcome to Rivendell, Mr. Anderson..."
New QED :)
-drl
New They got higher scores, not the same thing.
New Cosmic rays
-drl
New Those are GMAT questions
I should know - I just took it. Same questions. Wonder if the testing service knows about this?



"I believe that many of the systems we build today in Java would be better built in Smalltalk and Gemstone."

     -- Martin Fowler, JAOO 2003
Expand Edited by tuberculosis Aug. 21, 2007, 12:43:43 PM EDT
New What's that?
The GNU Master Apt-get-itude Test?
-drl
New *snicker*
Basically it's a giant spam target collector, preying on people's egos.
Regards,

-scott anderson

"Welcome to Rivendell, Mr. Anderson..."
New Yup, and you KNOW how big mine is
Note: Ben just took it. The SOB (I should know) got 136, beat me by a point!

Also, what is the answer for #7? I still don't get it.
New 100 * squares
Answer was 900, and I got it wrong when I took the test, looking back at it. Sloppy. :-)

1,4,9 36
100,400,900,3600

Nothing else works... divisible by 3, by 9, by 4, by 100, etc.
Regards,

-scott anderson

"Welcome to Rivendell, Mr. Anderson..."
New As Ben screams in the distance
He was floating on beating me, and now has to admit being wrong on a math question, an area he excels at.
New Perfect squares
-drl
New I didn't take the time to take it. So do I pass?
===

Implicitly condoning stupidity since 2001.
New I saw it ages ago
I know that I scored in the 140s, but I don't remember by how much. I'm not bored enough to retake it.

They wanted me to pay money to get the detailed report. I declined.

Cheers,
Ben
"good ideas and bad code build communities, the other three combinations do not"
- [link|http://archives.real-time.com/pipermail/cocoon-devel/2000-October/003023.html|Stefano Mazzocchi]
New My IQ is...
Foff, you're not having my email address.

Twats.

BTW, I'd obviously get 100%, being the egotistical maniac that I am. You all suck.


Peter
[link|http://www.debian.org|Shill For Hire]
[link|http://www.kuro5hin.org|There is no K5 Cabal]
[link|http://guildenstern.dyndns.org|Home Page - Now with added Zing!]
New Give it a fake one, knob.
It doesn't actually care.
Regards,

-scott anderson

"Welcome to Rivendell, Mr. Anderson..."
New Like I care. You suck.
100%, baby.


Peter
[link|http://www.debian.org|Shill For Hire]
[link|http://www.kuro5hin.org|There is no K5 Cabal]
[link|http://guildenstern.dyndns.org|Home Page - Now with added Zing!]
New bite me you pitiful 'neer
-drl
New In case you missed it in the initial post
You can make up any email address and it will give you the results on the next page.

It didn't get mine either, OR my real DOB or anything.

Nightowl >8#


"To become different from what we are, we must have some awareness of what we are."
Eric Hoffer
New If it's too stupid to require a real email address...
...then it's too stupid to suck up my time.


Peter
[link|http://www.debian.org|Shill For Hire]
[link|http://www.kuro5hin.org|There is no K5 Cabal]
[link|http://guildenstern.dyndns.org|Home Page - Now with added Zing!]
New Ahh, failure to follow instructions
10 points off.

What, you are no longer a BOFH and your reading comprehension skills leak out of your ears?
New One Hundred Percent.
Or do you doubt my egomania?


Peter
[link|http://www.debian.org|Shill For Hire]
[link|http://www.kuro5hin.org|There is no K5 Cabal]
[link|http://guildenstern.dyndns.org|Home Page - Now with added Zing!]
New The wife got 144 - "Visionary Philosopher"
New Wow, you must be quite a guy!
The wife's that smart -- and she married you!

Goodonya!


   [link|mailto:MyUserId@MyISP.CountryCode|Christian R. Conrad]
(I live in Finland, and my e-mail in-box is at the Saunalahti company.)
You know you're doing good work when you get flamed by an idiot. -- [link|http://www.theregister.co.uk/content/35/34218.html|Andrew Wittbrodt]
New Ha! :-) She's a catch. I don't know about me....
New Took it again, deliberately answered all wrong
72

The funny part was the description:

You have the unusual distinction of being equally good at math and verbal skills. This means you are a creative thinker and are uniquely good at teaching others through experiences. You are also a great improviser and very good at handling change.


Really, really stupid test. :-)
Regards,

-scott anderson

"Welcome to Rivendell, Mr. Anderson..."
New "Blind Hog" - or "Visionless Porker"
-drl
New seriously
..don't the real tests have a bottom cut-off?
-drl
New I assume morons can't read
[link|http://www.mnstate.edu/severson/definiti.htm|http://www.mnstate.e...rson/definiti.htm]

So if you can take the test, you start at 70
New Also, interesting typo
> Expectations of adaptive behavior vary for different age groups; DEFICITS IN
> ADATPIVE BEHAVIOR will vary at different ages

Sent her an email. Was a bit snide about such a glaring typo on a web page about mental retardation. hehehe.
New This is very good
You get a baseline for being able to read and use a mouse.

> You have the unusual distinction of being equally good at math and verbal skills.
You are stupid in both.

> This means you are a creative thinker
Because you are too stupid to get the right answer, ya gotta make up something.

> and are uniquely good at teaching others through experiences.
Because you can't prove anything by logic.

> You are also a great improviser
Yup. Just making it up as you go along. No choice in the matter.

> and very good at handling change
Because you had no idea what already happened.
New Java Servlet Exception
Wouldn't matter anyway. None of the graphics came through so I had to guess on those.
-----------------------------------------
.sig pending
New That means you win a prize, dunnit?


Peter
[link|http://www.debian.org|Shill For Hire]
[link|http://www.kuro5hin.org|There is no K5 Cabal]
[link|http://guildenstern.dyndns.org|Home Page - Now with added Zing!]
New Holy Crow! It's been IWeThey'd!
--\n-------------------------------------------------------------------\n* Jack Troughton                            jake at consultron.ca *\n* [link|http://consultron.ca|http://consultron.ca]                   [link|irc://irc.ecomstation.ca|irc://irc.ecomstation.ca] *\n* Kingston Ontario Canada               [link|news://news.consultron.ca|news://news.consultron.ca] *\n-------------------------------------------------------------------
New :-)
New culturally biased internet intelligence test (new thread)
Created as new thread #138045 titled [link|/forums/render/content/show?contentid=138045|culturally biased internet intelligence test]
same old crap, con artists ripping off fools. Ah, hell, Catholic Church it start off that way. They All do. Jesus probably had three walnut shells one pea, then he's dead and can't be questioned,
Gabriel Dupre

questions, help? [link|mailto:pappas@catholic.org|email pappas at catholic.org]
New Story re "IQ Testing LLC"
OK OK - it's such a Popular game!

I'm sure millions of words have been written on this topic (few of which I'm at all interested in even skimming). That there IS such a test - and that it is accorded huge Importance - IMO says more about "us" than about WTF any of these contrived, inevitably inadequate questions demonstrate (beyond acculturation, that is).

In '60s, a phys. grad student I knew (fresh PhD actually) was about to marry a (real!) Armenian (exile) 'Princess'.. a most interesting and Sharp woman. We hung out, from time to time. She was (at some academic stage I don't recall) working on the level of designing, vetting - critiquing various forms of the Stanford-Binet -- which natch must keep changing its questions (I said.. it's mainly about acculturation, did'n I?)

So she asked Les and moi if she could administer (a current version) to us two. (I knew my earlier Number from days of academe). Having the advantage of knowing us both.. I think this was about umm "calibrating her own confidence" in the entire enchilada, and this may or may not have been "against the rules" - WTF those were. D. agreed to discuss with us -after-the-fact- some arcane interpretations of the ~order, "why.. such and such questions are thought particularly revealing", weighted accordingly: ie a mini-course on state of the design art, just then). So, who could resist.. hearing about the priesthood from the priesthood?

Natch I don't recall anything juicy from her critique. Unsurprisingly, we both scored 'off-scale' (her term; comment following) and within a few 'points' of each other. I recall her qualitative assessment of the whole topic a little better.

She though it became iffy (to save a few hundred words only a little better than iffy) somewhere in the 130-140 range. Thought.. that it might mean -something- maybe up to 160s [fuzzy here] - but only via considerable personal investigation by the tester of the testee. I think this meant -- the tester trying to discern "mechanical test-guessing aptitudes, algoriths" VS something more indicative of genuine [insightfulness?].. No, I don't know how you would "teach someone such discrimination" either, if it even exists beyond a fanciful hope.

Yeah, vague words but much akin, in my experience, to -- the predicament of evaluating two very good audio systems VS instantaneous live performance -- and Talking! about what is heard; ditto wine tasting == that Class of problem.

She believed (and apparently so did the then authors of the tests, at least 'unofficially' ) that any number >150 was essentially meaningless re comparing any two persons, yet you could achieve something like '200'. Pshaw.

Whatever else you might call such numbers, I liken them to false-precision, as in 'too many significant figures' for the precision of measurement (of any physical quantity). (And this AIN'T Any Physical 'QUANTITY')

I note that neither Lester nor I have yet won even a second Nobel. Although he, having gone for weapons development via Ford Aeronutr... is likely pretty rich. (That makes him as smart as a PHB - what's that - 85?) We haven't kept in touch; different sensibilities, I guess.

I'll go along with "attitude inventory" as a realizable goal for 'testing' - for those who haven't yet discovered what it is - they Love to do, poor bastards. But as means for grouping the members of a civilization? BS - it's fucking epaulets, as Dick Feynman would say.
Now there was.. fucking-^SMART^; screw allthenumbers.


Ashton
so smart I make myself sick
we now return you to your testing game du jour
New Why does it seem
that your entire post bolis down to what I aleady posted:
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Of course, your was far more entertiaining, but you know how I like to boil down to a couple of numbers.
New ..Prefer a slow simmer to a tacky boil, I guess ;-)
     Cute IQ test - (broomberg) - (95)
         Heh - (deSitter)
         My score - (orion) - (5)
             It's vacuous - (deSitter) - (4)
                 Only when someone you don't like scores well - (broomberg) - (3)
                     Re: Only when someone you don't like scores well - (deSitter) - (1)
                         I got it - (orion)
                     Being a Gemini - (orion)
         Got "document contains no data" for my trouble. -NT - (a6l6e6x) - (8)
             you mean your brain? -NT - (deSitter) - (7)
                 ROFL! - (a6l6e6x) - (6)
                     Standard problem with these tests - (broomberg) - (5)
                         Re: Standard problem with these tests - (deSitter) - (4)
                             Some cultural bias. - (admin) - (3)
                                 Top high end never test well - (broomberg) - (2)
                                     Survival skill = intelligence? - (deSitter) - (1)
                                         KISS - (Ashton)
         brain brammage - (boxley)
         Ditto on that. - (folkert) - (6)
             I like the pattern progression - (broomberg) - (2)
                 Re: I like the pattern progression - (deSitter) - (1)
                     No... - (folkert)
             Mensa entry was 140 - (broomberg) - (1)
                 ObGroucho - (deSitter)
             Ditto on the ditto - (bepatient)
         Stupid test. - (admin) - (20)
             Yes but - (broomberg) - (19)
                 That's why you have specific tests - (deSitter) - (7)
                     Math? - (broomberg) - (6)
                         Made my point - (deSitter)
                         car problem - (Steve Lowe) - (4)
                             I knew the name - (broomberg)
                             Uhh... Yeah! - (folkert) - (1)
                                 Yers is prettier, mine is wordier :) -NT - (Steve Lowe)
                             Easier. - (Another Scott)
                 That's why you need someone to give the test. -NT - (admin)
                 Another problem with this test: - (admin) - (9)
                     Agreed - (broomberg) - (8)
                         I think the max on this one is probably fairly low. -NT - (admin) - (7)
                             Agreed - (broomberg) - (5)
                                 By comparison: - (admin) - (4)
                                     gotta be timed - (deSitter) - (3)
                                         Couldn't possibly be timed. - (admin) - (2)
                                             Re: Couldn't possibly be timed. - (deSitter) - (1)
                                                 Different weightings - (broomberg)
                             Agreed - Dupe - (broomberg)
         133 - (Steve Lowe) - (1)
             133 - same here, but I'm an 'Insightful Linguist' apparently - (Meerkat)
         Good way to waste time. Addendum. - (Another Scott) - (1)
             sqrt (-1) - (deSitter)
         Feh - (cforde)
         Re: Cute IQ test - (Nightowl)
         142 - I'm a "Visionary Philosopher". Sheesh. -NT - (mmoffitt)
         I can live with "your Intellectual Type is a Facts Curator". - (CRConrad)
         135 means you didn't get any wrong. -NT - (FuManChu) - (7)
             How is that possible? -NT - (admin) - (6)
                 It was my score, and I didn't get any wrong. :D -NT - (FuManChu) - (4)
                     Nope. Scott and Ben both beat us. -NT - (broomberg) - (3)
                         Got it up to 144 - (admin) - (1)
                             QED :) -NT - (deSitter)
                         They got higher scores, not the same thing. -NT - (FuManChu)
                 Cosmic rays -NT - (deSitter)
         Those are GMAT questions - (tuberculosis) - (6)
             What's that? - (deSitter)
             *snicker* - (admin) - (4)
                 Yup, and you KNOW how big mine is - (broomberg) - (3)
                     100 * squares - (admin) - (1)
                         As Ben screams in the distance - (broomberg)
                     Perfect squares -NT - (deSitter)
         I didn't take the time to take it. So do I pass? -NT - (drewk)
         I saw it ages ago - (ben_tilly)
         My IQ is... - (pwhysall) - (7)
             Give it a fake one, knob. - (admin) - (2)
                 Like I care. You suck. - (pwhysall) - (1)
                     bite me you pitiful 'neer -NT - (deSitter)
             In case you missed it in the initial post - (Nightowl) - (3)
                 If it's too stupid to require a real email address... - (pwhysall) - (2)
                     Ahh, failure to follow instructions - (broomberg) - (1)
                         One Hundred Percent. - (pwhysall)
         The wife got 144 - "Visionary Philosopher" -NT - (Another Scott) - (2)
             Wow, you must be quite a guy! - (CRConrad) - (1)
                 Ha! :-) She's a catch. I don't know about me.... -NT - (Another Scott)
         Took it again, deliberately answered all wrong - (admin) - (5)
             "Blind Hog" - or "Visionless Porker" -NT - (deSitter)
             seriously - (deSitter) - (2)
                 I assume morons can't read - (broomberg) - (1)
                     Also, interesting typo - (broomberg)
             This is very good - (broomberg)
         Java Servlet Exception - (Silverlock) - (3)
             That means you win a prize, dunnit? -NT - (pwhysall)
             Holy Crow! It's been IWeThey'd! -NT - (jake123) - (1)
                 :-) -NT - (Another Scott)
         culturally biased internet intelligence test (new thread) - (boxley)
         Story re "IQ Testing LLC" - (Ashton) - (2)
             Why does it seem - (broomberg) - (1)
                 ..Prefer a slow simmer to a tacky boil, I guess ;-) -NT - (Ashton)

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