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New Are you suggesting they're gonna automate the whole shebang?
And yet they still need ICBMs?

I used to think you weren't giving Kim Il Sung enough credit for brains. Now I'm starting to think you're giving him too much.

Say, how does it navigate? We control the GPS satellites. Inertial guidance is no good over the long haul. Compass is horribly imprecise. It can't very well surface and ask for directions. A star tracker? Think that regime can build and use one of those?

These backward terrorists using our technology against us works - once. Actually, now that we've upped our vigilance, it hasn't worked a second time. No successful terrorist attacks on our soil since 9/11. That's partly luck, but not all luck.

So you wanna wait until our luck runs out, or take on the threats now? `Coz to hold off of the PRK because of fear of retaliation is to submit to blackmail. And a blackmailer always increases his demands. What happens when he demands we all be annexed by North Korea and starve to death under their Stalinist economy? That's gonna be a whole lot more deaths than any swimming nuke. And they will be deaths wholly without honor or dignity. Is that what you want? Ten of millions dead later, because you wouldn't risk a couple of millions now?

No matter how you look at it, it just doesn't make sense to be indefinitely paralzyed by fear of what Kim might do. Right now he appears to have both nukes and an ICBM delivery system. We know he has no compunction about mass murder. A coward would say, give him whatever he wants and hope he eats us last. A leftist loon - probably insincerely - would say we oughta be invading his turf right now instead of picking on poor little Saddam. I reject both these extremes, and the idiocies that support them. My stance is the middle ground, the MODERATE approach. I say: stall for time now, while we work on a defense for the weapon we actually KNOW he has. Then go for it.

Unless anyone has a better idea? Anyone?

Seems you're the only one besides me around here who has any inclination to even try to think strategically. But if you want to box me into a corner, you need to try a lot harder.
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DEAL WITH IT.
Compromise is for suckers. Seeking a middle ground is what led to 9/11.
"I do not want to be admired by scumbags and liars and wife beaters. I want to be admired by good and decent, intelligent and just people, and in order to achieve this I need to do things that make me despised by their opposites." - Bill Whittle
Never mind all the mass graves. Where's the nerve gas?
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a logic bomb means you have to pick the target well in advance... years in advance. An ICBM means you can pick it right before launch.

Therefore, for the best of both flexibility and threat, having both logic bombs AND ICBMs are better than just one or the other.

Didn't you study any game theory?
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New You can plan it as far in advance as you like...
but you still need a workable delivery system.

Dare I suggest you think it through that far? Oh wait. I already have. And you declined.
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DEAL WITH IT.
Compromise is for suckers. Seeking a middle ground is what led to 9/11.
"I do not want to be admired by scumbags and liars and wife beaters. I want to be admired by good and decent, intelligent and just people, and in order to achieve this I need to do things that make me despised by their opposites." - Bill Whittle
Never mind all the mass graves. Where's the nerve gas?
[link|http://www.angelfire.com/ca3/marlowe/index.html|http://www.angelfire...arlowe/index.html]
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         Yes but, unrealistic - (Silverlock) - (8)
             Re: Yes but, unrealistic - (deSitter) - (6)
                 Wide brush - (Silverlock) - (5)
                     IANAB - (deSitter) - (4)
                         Doesn't get you off the hook. - (hnick) - (3)
                             Re: Doesn't get you off the hook. - (deSitter) - (2)
                                 What have "we/they" done? - (Another Scott) - (1)
                                     Natch! The "Age of Awards" - (deSitter)
             Funny thing is, Ahhnuld may have gone one better - (drewk)
         A new US space program? What, to catch up? - (marlowe) - (37)
             ah, missile defense! - (rcareaga) - (33)
                 You guys keep bringing that up as if it means anything. - (marlowe) - (32)
                     On second thought... - (marlowe) - (18)
                         That's laughable. - (Andrew Grygus) - (17)
                             Laparoscopically. Like gallbladder removal. -NT - (Arkadiy) - (6)
                                 Right - and Santa will have the contract. - (Andrew Grygus) - (5)
                                     So what you are implying - (hnick) - (4)
                                         Oh, not at all . . - (Andrew Grygus) - (1)
                                             glass dildoes? Oh, check glasses -NT - (boxley)
                                         Now you have me humming this song... - (inthane-chan) - (1)
                                             I know the tune for this one - - (Ashton)
                             That's not the inspectors' problem. - (marlowe) - (9)
                                 marlowe in wonderland - (rcareaga)
                                 Probelem of the merchents? - (Andrew Grygus) - (5)
                                     As opposed to what? - (marlowe) - (4)
                                         Who sez? - (jb4)
                                         Non sequitur - (Ashton) - (2)
                                             Who's "ourselves?" - (marlowe) - (1)
                                                 Kewl! That means: - (jb4)
                                 Too late. The bombs are already here and in place. - (a6l6e6x) - (1)
                                     Deja vu all over again. - (Ashton)
                     Oh, and by the way... - (marlowe) - (12)
                         Dishes. Served cold. You do the math. - (kmself) - (10)
                             Dishes. Not served at all. You do the logistics. -NT - (marlowe) - (9)
                                 Or to put it another way... - (marlowe) - (8)
                                     Dead man... - (kmself) - (7)
                                         Okay, not bad. - (marlowe) - (6)
                                             How stupid are you? - (deSitter) - (1)
                                                 Chuckle, all I know - (Simon_Jester)
                                             Going nowhere - (kmself) - (3)
                                                 Are you suggesting they're gonna automate the whole shebang? - (marlowe) - (2)
                                                     random access - (jake123) - (1)
                                                         You can plan it as far in advance as you like... - (marlowe)
                         Re: Oh, and by the way... - (deSitter)
             We can't afford a new space program. - (Another Scott)
             Yuo == teh funneh - (pwhysall) - (1)
                 Tom Clancy may be an idiot... - (inthane-chan)

They should name these things for their discoverers, like comets.
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